Hi guys, bought a Honda City 2014 GM6 not too long ago and i felt that the halogen headlights are a bit too dim so decided to upgrade to LEDs. I did some digging around and apparently the white coloured 6000K is ILLEGAL while the 4300K colour is somewhat in the grey area? My question is whether 6000K is illegal or not? Also in terms of performance are they both the same? White colour 6000K should be brighter right?


Saw some pretty cheap LEDs in shopee called C6 or whatever but seems like they have a few bad reviews. Did anyone bought them before? How's the performance? Or perhaps any of you can recommend a good one to me?

Thanks

Have been using cheapo c6 for 6 months but hard to judge because less travel during mco. Brighter than halogen. Get the yellow light

Just change to Osram NB Laser or Philip XV +130 and be done with it.

you want brightness or you want looks?

brightness some of the official way is to use Osram Nightbreaker series or the philips equivalent, as per speedy3210 said

though these "better" bulbs would have shorter life time, some up to 1/3 your default bulb

mine last 1 year or so with 8k -ish drive

if you really want brighter bulb, do the H9 modification to fit H11
without the glare cap and higher wattage (65W vs 55W) it will be brighter, but can cause glaring

Colour temp (4300K , 6000K) does not mean brighter
just yellow vs white colour perceived by the eyes

it has been said that white light (5000k and above) have trouble in rainy or foggy situations
while yellow penetrates better and give better definition in these poor visibility conditions

though recent development of the LED bulb does indeed give better light output (Lumens) there is still the problem using LED in a reflector type headlamp.
this is due to unable to have the lighting element (in this case, the LED chip) be thin and small enuff to be in the exact same location as the filament in a normal bulb

so the light output would have slight offset and can create hotspot/shadow

also be wary of LED with great putput initially, but fizzle out over time due to heat
units with active cooling would suffer greatly if to say the fan malfunction, or even reduced performance in cooling over time

one benefit of LED is the perceived longer lifetime
but this would be negated if to say the later half of the bulb life, it shone less bright than when it was new

A while ago I was in the same boat as you TS, thinking of switching from halogen to LED because I thought I can get something better. In the end I decided to stick with brigher halogen such as Osram Nightbreaker because from what I've read and watched all over the internet, you're very likely to get an un-uniform beam pattern that will shine directly into opposing driver's eye.

If you still insist to change to LED however, you need to make sure that the beam cut off is exactly the same as before, as any light that went above will distract the opposing driver. This guy use computer to measure the light intensity so you can see how using LED in reflector will affect the beam pattern. Watch this video because it directly address the question we both had.

EDIT: Link not working somehow so here's the direct link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1L_aFGjmSI&t=0s

BTW I wouldn't recommend bulb with higher colour temperature in Malaysia because you'll see less in rain. There's a reason why specialised fog light are very yellow in colour.

This post has been edited by pixelrider: Feb 17 2021, 11:14 PM

I would against to user upgrade their stock halogen based headlamp to LED/HID. First it will make light output scattered and hurt the opposite direction. The light output with those LED is not great other than colour change to white. Suggest to remain as halogen bulb or retrofit

If your headlights are meant to use halogen, stick to it. If you insist on using led, don’t cheap out and upgrade to led headlights or retrofit them.

My V spec City has LED headlamps. Looks cool but almost totally useless in the rain at night.

V Spec City comes with Reflector LED and the light throw seems very near, same goes to the new Myvi and Bezza.

Even the current HRV comes with Reflector LED not Projector LED like before which the light seems weak and the light throw is so near.

why do you recommend yellow light though?

Those bulb are not cheap, and lifespan is quite short, LED from what i read outlasts halogen bulbs by far... that's one of the reason why i considering LED as well

I see. Great information, thanks for the reply, it is true quite pointless if after a certain amount of time the LED become dim, totally negate the point of long lifespan

Not considering retrofit projector headlights TS? Try ask CSB-Pro Autolight.

Avoid jpj polis kacau
I just want the brightness

Also, I hated the blinding white light from other cars.

Led need to have it's fan exposed.
You can get the exposed cap from shopee

Forget about those night breaker fancy halogen.
They are just marginally brighter than the rm10 stock bulb
Maybe brighter for the first night only.

Yes I recommend cheapo c6 better than the expensive nightbraker

C6 LED is rubbish crap, the light throw will be everywhere and not bright

plug in LED aftermarket, it definitely suck for light output. suggest Retrofit. or just buy those blue coated halogen bulb at mr diy around rm20+ which give better light vs stock

Agrree on just get a pair a good performance halogen bulb will do, never buy slot in after market LED (most of it is useless). I myself also using Retrofit LED projector in my daily car and its worth it but needed to worry whenever got JPJ roadblock

how come they change but seem downgrade from before? sure LED reflector is worst then projector Bi-LED?
owh wait, mazda still using projector Bi-LED..

Maybe it is cheaper in cost? Based on my naked eyes especially in HRV, the older LED projector headlamp seems brighter and nicer to look at compared to the new LED reflector headlamp.

This post has been edited by intel_centrino33: Feb 19 2021, 09:34 PM