out dps in what sense? tbh the effective dps ceiling is only that high for a normal player, unless youre speedrunning/minmaxing alot of these tier list from t0 to t1 doesnt quite affect your performance in using the said units. dont worry too much bout it and enjoy your unit

Ya my eula only do 700k damage. Very trash indeed.

Had to hit pity twice for Ayaka. RIP 20k gems.

Somehow only got 2 Yanfei wtf Mihoyo.

Lost 50/50 to jean at 77th pull and got Ayaka at 77th pull after reset. 

C6 now for my both chongyun and yanfei

Your pity count on the weapon banner will remain 20/80 & be carried forward just like the character banner.

Just pull. If get Mistsplitter, Ayaka can use. If get Skyward Spine, Baal can use. This is one of the better weapon banner. Unless you damn unlucky like me, got neither of those 2 (lost 50:50 on weapon banner).

Can refer her talent passive
https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/db/cha...hougun/?lang=EN

You really love asking questions without doing your homework beforehand, do you? Also, were you the guy who complained about how little damage your Eula is dealing whilst running a 4* claymore on her 2 months ago?

Anyways, Raiden's burst scales off its stacks. The more stacks you accumulate, the higher the damage dealt. The damage component is straightforward and easy to comprehend. So your rotation should go something like... game starts, cast Raiden E > rotate to other characters and use their burst > cycle back to Raiden, recast E > Q > go to town.

Raiden's burst has an active and passive component. The stack is her passive and only builds up when you trigger reaction, hence casting E and swapping to your other teammates will help facilitate the stack building progress. Once your characters' burst have wear off, you switch back to Raiden and recast E, then cast Q to consume all previously built up stacks. Recast E should add to the damage.

Once Raiden's burst wears off, you revert to step 1 of casting Raiden's E and cycling to other characters.

Baal's burst multipliers on her initial slash is low because it isn't just that ratio alone. You have to factor in the accumulated stacks into her damage. Clearly, you have not read her skill description and you're just deflecting questions from one end to the other. If you did your homework, you would have known that her AA during her burst mode is considered burst damage, which means the resolve stacks enhances its damage too.

If you knew that, you wouldn't have the perception that her mults are weak, let alone wonder how does her ult work  either. I didn't even mention anything about team comps. The rotation is raised in discussion because it is what helps you increase your damage output. Put everything together and you'll realize her multipliers are on the solid side. If you expect a plug n play concept on Raiden, you might as well skip her

Also, claiming Eula is horrible when you're running a 4* weapon without even factoring in your art/builds is nigh foolish. Liyue 3 will always reign superior no matter how you look at it, but a C6 Eula currently holds the game's highest raw damage, and comparisons have shown she clears a moderate amount of contents faster than a C6 Ganyu and Hutao care to accomplish. All that with physical damage. C6 Xiao? You can forget about that fella because all that damage is sadly gimped by his high risk-reward playstyle. Most players haven't reach that form of mechanical skill to contest. Argue all you want, but Eula's raw damage ceiling is undisputed.

As far as your opinion goes, I recall full well that many of us tried to ask you very technical questions, but you dodged them  . All I see in your Eula complain is a a salty player who is upset about Eula because he isn't getting big pp numbers, either because he can't get her rotations right, hasn't fully optimized his gears or is comparing unfairly between characters. And the same thing seems to be repeating itself in the topic of Baal.

You guys need to understand that you are both playing a totally different game lol. Whale gameplay and budget gameplay are totally different. Many top tier meta chars are useless without a proper 5* weapon. Hu Tao is probably the best example of this.

Not sure about Eula DPS I don't have her, but experience from playing Razor main for like half a year tells me that Physical DPS suck balls. No way I'm gonna build for any Phy DPS as a light spender.

Honestly Eula is fine in terms of balance. It's just that others are too strong, even with 4* weapons. Venti, Zhongli, Ganyu comes to mind. Or even 4* chars like Xiangling, Bennett, Xingqiu, Ningguang (with ZL).

Zhongli went from "should I pull" to "I have to pull" for me. Best decision I made in terms of building a strong team. He was the first step for me to even have a shot at doing Abyss 36 stars. No other 5* char had a bigger impact for me.

And I really don't trust any Genshin content creator at this point, especially whales lol. Most of them don't know what they are talking about. Watching their gameplay makes me facepalm too.

Ever since Jinx retired from doing Genshin math videos, I don't really watch any Genshin content anymore. I do watch to get a basic idea on builds but that's about it.

Even Raiden Shogun release I didn't follow. Is she meta or not I have no idea at this point lol. Don't even know what her skills do.
Razor is good when you are starting out, easy to build and don't need much else. Especially if you have a Qiqi. I'd still recommend Razor for new players.

Problem with physical is that you have to run an electro in your team. Waste of a slot. Also Anemo VV set doesn't work on physical so you lose out on -RES there. Unless Raiden can fix this, don't see how they are going to be meta. Even with the best items, Physical will always lose to Melt/Vaporize or Freeze builds.

Rather than saying physical dmg no longer relevant, it's more like each type of element has its own place in the game la. The golden rule of Genshin has always been the same i.e. just do whatever you like as long as you're happy.

Physical damage doesn't have any reactions & lacks in big numbers (until Eula dropped). So it's kinda boring or unattractive to some people since physical DPS is mainly just right-clicking. So if you wanna be competitive in Abyss with physical DPS, just note that Razor is top 3 of the least popular character for clearing Abyss with 36 stars. He's as popular as Amber & Lisa. While Eula is sitting mid-tier at most. She's neither the broken tier of Zhongli, Kazuha & Bennett nor the top tier like Ganyu, HuTao, XingQiu level. Eula is more on a similar tier with Albedo & Childe, well balanced in most aspects.   

So, just try out the character you wanna play for a bit first. Don't watch whale showcases & don't listen to whales. Then look at whether you already have some of the artifacts for them or not, before deciding whether to invest further into them. Don't force yourself to build meta characters or teams that don't suit you. You'll whine like no tomorrow when RNGesus being a bitch with your artifact farming.