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single pulled skyward harp from standard banner
lol i only got ganyu..too bad not amos bow |
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Feb 25 2021, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Feb 25 2021, 02:34 PM) alternatively xingqiu as sub dps is pretty good mitigating dmg & heal as well, might not sound like much, but for main DPS with low hp pool, his heals are pretty good even at low investment. Currently he is really good on my team.Not level up at all on artifacts but I build him with fast recharge so 2 times ele skill he's ready to ele burst Noblesse Oblige give team DMG +20% |
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Feb 25 2021, 04:55 PM
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Feb 25 2021, 05:10 PM
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Feb 25 2021, 05:40 PM
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Feb 25 2021, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Feb 25 2021, 02:44 PM) slap a 4* weapon on her, then just dump all the other upgraded artifacts on her that no one uses, no need for set or anything. She heals so much she doesn't need a lot of investment I just sacrifisal sword her. Tried rancour but didn't like it already used to double E lol. Her main healing comes from her Talent 2, which apply the ult effect on one of the mobs at 50% chance per hit with a cd of 30s, so basically a mini ult every 30 sec. Pop E when necessary. Q.... in case of emergency only (talent 2 on CD) QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Feb 25 2021, 03:21 PM) I play full maiden. With ATK% cryo damage bonus and healing bonus. No worries about hp even in abyss. QUOTE(Szzz @ Feb 25 2021, 04:23 PM) try logging out at the same spot. I find that logging out at certain place helps alot. Running full maiden but thinking might be over healing. So wondering if should go for noblese or blizarrd. Trying to get noblese but Mihoyo give Chivalry lol Always get the opposite of what you need to farmI run full maiden pure ATK + healing bonus circlet. My razor face tanks everything with Qiqi heals. Noblesse x4 is good too. |
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Feb 25 2021, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(malakus @ Feb 25 2021, 06:37 PM) I just sacrifisal sword her. Tried rancour but didn't like it already used to double E lol. I would suggest not to invest any set at all, just throw anything you already have at her. Qiqi's niche is her cheap to achieve godly heals. If you are willing to invest a lot into her, I'd say go for diona (fav/sac bow) instead since diona provides so much more utility compared to Qiqi in exchange for a mortal realm heals.Running full maiden but thinking might be over healing. So wondering if should go for noblese or blizarrd. Trying to get noblese but Mihoyo give Chivalry lol Always get the opposite of what you need to farm The main problem in over investing in Qiqi is, apart from heals she does not contribute much. 1. Her skill does not generate particles for your supports and carries, 2. cryo application is slow (diona's ult can apply cryo 2sec per tick in a large aoe + atk debuff on enemy, not that its fast but still something), 3. no shield, 4. & not a bow user. But diona would need you to be better at dodging since her heal is not so overpowered hence the need for investment. This post has been edited by zilch28: Feb 25 2021, 06:45 PM |
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Feb 25 2021, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Feb 25 2021, 06:40 PM) I would suggest not to invest any set at all, just throw anything you already have at her. Qiqi's niche is her cheap to achieve godly heals. If you are willing to invest a lot into her, I'd say go for diona (fav/sac bow) instead since diona provides so much more utility compared to Qiqi in exchange for a mortal realm heals. Diona eh. I got her but haven't use her at all. Might try her for a bit. I don't have good bow though.The main problem in over investing in Qiqi is, apart from heals she does not contribute much. 1. Her skill does not generate particles for your supports and carries, 2. cryo application is slow (diona's ult can apply cryo 2sec per tick in a large aoe + atk debuff on enemy, not that its fast but still something), 3. no shield, 4. & not a bow user. But diona would need you to be better at dodging since her heal is not so overpowered hence the need for investment. I already invested in Qiqi lol Got her to 80 and c1. Haven't used her that much since dragonspine though, Bennet kinda replaced her though It is just that I am thinking of getting her back into rotation to pair up with Ganyu. Wondering should I stay with Maiden or to make her a bit more of a dps |
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Feb 25 2021, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(malakus @ Feb 25 2021, 06:54 PM) Diona eh. I got her but haven't use her at all. Might try her for a bit. I don't have good bow though. Its alright to use Qiqi, I do bring her to places like abyss since my diona is still 60 only and I'm not that skillful yet. But using qiqi, her dps is pretty much negligible unless you really hyperinvest in her (which tbh seems like a waste of resources) and I would think its still better to have the main dps doing the dps otherwise it'll just be less damage overall.I already invested in Qiqi lol Got her to 80 and c1. Haven't used her that much since dragonspine though, Bennet kinda replaced her though It is just that I am thinking of getting her back into rotation to pair up with Ganyu. Wondering should I stay with Maiden or to make her a bit more of a dps On my diona I use a fav bow, with noblesse set build for crit, hp and ER. Holding her E generates so much particles and between Ganyu's and her E they both can just ult off CD if you micromanage. Edit: oh your qiqi is c1, so idk if it helps with the energy regen. my diona is also c1, so her ult essentially only cost 65 energy. but she's 4* so not too hard to get I guess This post has been edited by zilch28: Feb 25 2021, 07:05 PM |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Zen Qiu Gaming @ Feb 25 2021, 04:23 PM) that might actually work, cuz that part i think the hard part is getting that 2 crushers agro on you quick before the assassin start his shuriken I tried, friggin hard to aggro them or perhaps they loses aggro easily. I passed with 1* only by targeting one of them at a time. Hence, failed the DPS check. So new plan is to yeet them together & butcher them both at the same time. QUOTE(Szzz @ Feb 25 2021, 04:29 PM) You can try alternating between the 2 crushers so they both can't attack. Careful not to put the monolith between you and the assassins. Their dash attack deals alot dmg to the monolith. The monolith is between those 2 Crushers. So alternating between the two of them often makes the monolith being in the middle. I tried doing charged attacks with a sword user to push them together. But that was hard cause i'm not used to it. Hence, gonna bring in my Dandelion Tights to bring those 2 Crushers together & send them flying far away like dandelion seeds. You got the hard 1st half part down, I'm sure you can do it. QUOTE(malakus @ Feb 25 2021, 06:54 PM) I agree that Maiden Beloved is overkill on Qiqi. If only her extra heals converts into something else like buffs or shield, then it's worthwhile to stretch her heals. Until then, rather have energy recharge & Noblesse set on her. At least that way she can help to boost damage besides just healing. Diona can shield, heal & apply cryo reliably. That's 2 utilities more than Qiqi, making Diona wayyyy better. So least you could do is add in more utility into Qiqi, to make her relevant. Alternatively go full DPS with her, hack & slash all the way. She'll still heal very well since her heals scales off her ATK. |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 25 2021, 09:30 PM) I tried, friggin hard to aggro them or perhaps they loses aggro easily. I passed with 1* only by targeting one of them at a time. Hence, failed the DPS check. So new plan is to yeet them together & butcher them both at the same time. Try using bow charged attack on their head, they will be knocked down. Don't use aiming mode, manually hold lift click button, this way you will be able to alternate between the two.The monolith is between those 2 Crushers. So alternating between the two of them often makes the monolith being in the middle. I tried doing charged attacks with a sword user to push them together. But that was hard cause i'm not used to it. Hence, gonna bring in my Dandelion Tights to bring those 2 Crushers together & send them flying far away like dandelion seeds. I agree that Maiden Beloved is overkill on Qiqi. If only her extra heals converts into something else like buffs or shield, then it's worthwhile to stretch her heals. Until then, rather have energy recharge & Noblesse set on her. At least that way she can help to boost damage besides just healing. Diona can shield, heal & apply cryo reliably. That's 2 utilities more than Qiqi, making Diona wayyyy better. So least you could do is add in more utility into Qiqi, to make her relevant. Alternatively go full DPS with her, hack & slash all the way. She'll still heal very well since her heals scales off her ATK. Although on my team, Qiqi is the main physical DPS. Concentrate kill one of the crusher, then run (don't sprint) and charged attack to knock the other crusher away (its important to maintain the awareness of the location of the assasin) and kill. Then goes for the assassin. |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(zemega @ Feb 25 2021, 09:36 PM) Try using bow charged attack on their head, they will be knocked down. Don't use aiming mode, manually hold lift click button, this way you will be able to alternate between the two. Yea...I've thought of that, since I brought both Childe & Ganyu to clear those floors. Theoretically it should work, definitely a recommended solution for people. But practically, I probably broke down under stress & can't aim properly. Especially when I have one Crusher in front & an S-Tier Assassin trying to slice me up lol. I hardly press the R button too. Usually just click & hold to aim.Although on my team, Qiqi is the main physical DPS. Concentrate kill one of the crusher, then run (don't sprint) and charged attack to knock the other crusher away (its important to maintain the awareness of the location of the assasin) and kill. Then goes for the assassin. |
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Feb 25 2021, 10:42 PM
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Issit okay to use 4* artifact for my ar lvl 35?
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Feb 25 2021, 10:46 PM
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staff of homa good for hu tao?
plan to pull her since i no strong dps fire |
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Feb 25 2021, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Feb 25 2021, 10:42 PM) It's fine if that 4* has the right primary stats for your DPS. You probably wanna hold back if it's for your support unless it's an important stats e.g. Energy Recharge. When you got better 5* at AR45, then use that +16 4* as a fodder for your 5*. |
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Feb 25 2021, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Feb 25 2021, 10:42 PM) Yes, if it have good stats you can even use it at higher AR, because farming good 5* artifact is a long process. Though some specialize artifact are only available to farm at higher AR, so don't spend too much time and resources on lower AR artifact. You mainly only need to level the artifact that your main DPS uses.QUOTE(kueks @ Feb 25 2021, 10:46 PM) Yes it's good, just bear in mind that there is no guarantee in getting it from the weapon banner.Below is a good comparison between spears. ![]() This post has been edited by valho: Feb 25 2021, 11:15 PM |
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Feb 25 2021, 11:16 PM
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No matter how good a substats is, upgrade process can still ruin it.
Example you get Pyro DMG % already. Substats ATK ATK % CR CD RNG can just give you flat ATK or CR that you don't need. |
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Feb 25 2021, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 25 2021, 10:58 PM) It's fine if that 4* has the right primary stats for your DPS. You probably wanna hold back if it's for your support unless it's an important stats e.g. Energy Recharge. When you got better 5* at AR45, then use that +16 4* as a fodder for your 5*. QUOTE(valho @ Feb 25 2021, 11:15 PM) Yes, if it have good stats you can even use it at higher AR, because farming good 5* artifact is a long process. Though some specialize artifact are only available to farm at higher AR, so don't spend too much time and resources on lower AR artifact. You mainly only need to level the artifact that your main DPS uses. I guess i should stick with them unit i ascend to lvl 45. Upgraded my xiao n mona to lvl 70. Now gathering hero expiriences to upg my bennett to lvl 70 as well. Still hoping for diluc or zhongli for 4th chars. I gonna stop upg razor now.Yes it's good, just bear in mind that there is no guarantee in getting it from the weapon banner. Below is a good comparison between spears. ![]() This post has been edited by ken_hidaibuki: Feb 25 2021, 11:40 PM |
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Feb 26 2021, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(valho @ Feb 25 2021, 11:15 PM) Yes, if it have good stats you can even use it at higher AR, because farming good 5* artifact is a long process. Though some specialize artifact are only available to farm at higher AR, so don't spend too much time and resources on lower AR artifact. You mainly only need to level the artifact that your main DPS uses. oh hmm , let me think think if wan try to get haha, later no gem for hutao after get the staff Yes it's good, just bear in mind that there is no guarantee in getting it from the weapon banner. Below is a good comparison between spears. ![]() QUOTE(goldfries @ Feb 25 2021, 11:16 PM) No matter how good a substats is, upgrade process can still ruin it. got att , cr, cd i happy dExample you get Pyro DMG % already. Substats ATK ATK % CR CD RNG can just give you flat ATK or CR that you don't need. but sadly most of the time is def / hp that gets upgraded |
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Feb 26 2021, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(kueks @ Feb 26 2021, 12:28 AM) oh hmm , let me think think if wan try to get haha, later no gem for hutao after get the staff I suggest get Hu Tao first, as you can see Deathmatch is a pretty decent weapon and doesn't need a lot of money to get. Also low investment since it's good at R1.got att , cr, cd i happy d but sadly most of the time is def / hp that gets upgraded |
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