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post Feb 3 2021, 10:05 PM, updated 5y ago

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ARK 2021 White Paper

https://research.ark-invest.com/hubfs/1_Download_Files_ARK-Invest/White_Papers/ARK%E2%80%93Invest_BigIdeas_2021.pdf



Quarterly Report and Educational Webinars
https://ark-funds.com/etf-webinars

Fund Materials
https://ark-funds.com/investor-resources


ETFs List
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ARK ETFs AUM Expense Ratio
ARKK - ARK Innovation ETF $22.996 Billion 0.75%
ARKQ - ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF $3.3431 Billion 0.75%
ARKW - ARK Next Generation Internet ETF $6.8748 Billion 0.76%
ARKG - ARK Genomic Revolution ETF $9.4524 Billion 0.75%
ARKF - Fintech Innovation ETF $3.9873 Billion 0.75%
ARKX - Space Exploration & Innovation ETF $0.334 Billion 0.75%
*As of 04/04/2021
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post Feb 3 2021, 10:06 PM

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Trade Data
https://cathiesark.com/ark-funds-combined/trades

Performance Data
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YTD Performance
ARK ETFs YTD
ARKK - ARK Innovation ETF -0.28%
ARKQ - ARK Autonomous Technology & Robotics ETF 12.54%
ARKW - ARK Next Generation Internet ETF 5.72%
ARKG - ARK Genomic Revolution ETF -4.91%
ARKF - ARK FINTECH INNOVATION ETF 9.45%
ARKX - ARK Space Exploration & Innovation ETF 3.30%
*As of 15/04/2021
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Extra info on differing viewpoints

Is ARK the New Janus Twenty?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...ew-janus-twenty

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Cathie Wood of ARK is not the first highly concentrated active manager to shoot the lights out for half a decade while sparking a stampede of flows into their funds. There have been many throughout history but perhaps the one that most echoes ARK today is the famous Janus Twenty Fund, which dominated the latter half of the '90s and early 2000s with very similar returns and flows to what ARK is experiencing, albeit one met with a 50% downturn when the Internet bubble burst.

On this episode of Trillions, we speak to Scott Schoelzel, the former PM of the Janus Twenty during the fund's magical stretch from 1998 to 2007. Having lived through the ups and downs of cycles, he gives us his thoughts on the current situation with ARK, advice for the firm's investors as well as his takes on the state of active management, ETFs, the Fed and what he's up to these days living out on his farm in Colorado.


Can Top-Performing Funds Stay on Top over Time?

https://www.spglobal.com/en/research-insigh...n-top-over-time

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ARK Invest ETFs - YouTube video


Michael Burry Opinion........

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ARK’s Cathie Wood Disrupted Investment Management. She’s Not Done Yet.


https://www.barrons.com/articles/arks-cathi...yet-51614992508

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post Feb 4 2021, 03:24 AM

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is the expense ratio acceptable ?
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post Feb 4 2021, 04:46 PM

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Anyone purchased this etf ?
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post Feb 4 2021, 04:48 PM

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i feel like the popularity of her funds has made the funds all become some kind of self fulfilling prophecy already
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post Feb 4 2021, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Feb 4 2021, 03:24 AM)
is the expense ratio acceptable ?
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Updated the first post with respective expense ratio.

It is in the same range as Robo-advisors in Malaysia but if you are going through a feeder fund then play close attention to fees if it is a long term investment.

Adds up over time......
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Feb 4 2021, 04:48 PM)
i feel like the popularity of her funds has made the funds all become some kind of self fulfilling prophecy already
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Yes to certain extent like DraftKings recently going up 10% in two days because ARK bought it but doesn't work for the large cap stocks.

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post Feb 4 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Feb 4 2021, 03:24 AM)
is the expense ratio acceptable ?
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Yes, but irrelevant as long as their alpha is good.
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I see Tesla make up 9% of ARKK I scared, rather be wrong in long run than be wrong now.
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post Feb 4 2021, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Feb 4 2021, 06:45 PM)
Updated the first post with respective expense ratio.

It is in the same range as Robo-advisors in Malaysia but if you are going through a feeder fund then play close attention to fees if it is a long term investment.

Adds up over time......
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i got this from.....

Managed funds fee calculator
How fees and costs will affect your investment
https://moneysmart.gov.au/managed-funds-and...-fee-calculator

just not sure if my assumption are correct....


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post Feb 4 2021, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Feb 3 2021, 10:06 PM)
When you compare Janus twenty and ARKK side by side, you will realized it is in a pretty dangerous valuation now. Past performance may not equate to future results. If Ark doesn't regress to mean, maybe she will achieve legend status.

Also just goes to show us how awesome buffet really is.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 4 2021, 07:15 PM)
i got this from.....

Managed funds fee calculator
How fees and costs will affect your investment
https://moneysmart.gov.au/managed-funds-and...-fee-calculator

just not sure if my assumption are correct....
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Investment earnings of 9.2%. I guess that's the fund p.a return before minusing the contribution fee right?
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Feb 4 2021, 08:47 PM)
Investment earnings of 9.2%. I guess that's the fund p.a return before minusing the contribution fee right?
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investment sum 100 000
duration 30 yrs
ROI 9.2%
sales charge 1%, 2%, 3%

are all from earlier postings....just that the impact of the sales charges on the total sum are not that great a percentage as per the earlier postings

also, the sales charges amount if amortized it over a 30 yrs periods will be very significant (or just very little)

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post Feb 4 2021, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 4 2021, 07:15 PM)
i got this from.....

Managed funds fee calculator
How fees and costs will affect your investment
https://moneysmart.gov.au/managed-funds-and...-fee-calculator

just not sure if my assumption are correct....
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If you are only taking into account the one time contribution/sales charge then the calculation is correct.

Haven't taken into account the yearly management fee and once that is taken into account the numbers match.



QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Feb 4 2021, 07:38 PM)
When you compare Janus twenty and ARKK side by side, you will realized it is in a pretty dangerous valuation now. Past performance may not equate to future results. If Ark doesn't regress to mean, maybe she will achieve legend status.

Also just goes to show us how awesome buffet really is.
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It would be hypocritical for me to say anything about her strategies or the valuations because I employ the same strategies. She is a great investment manager for the current climate but only time will tell if she can compete with the other greats.

As long as you know the risk and know how to hedge then I personally don't see an issue with these strategies.


There is always a strategy for everyone out there like below for those who don't want to employ chasing high flying funds.

https://www.morningstar.com/articles/101986...1-funds-edition

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Conclusion
Buy the Unloved isn't a total portfolio investing strategy, and it does not work 100% of the time. While outflows do not directly affect or indicate valuations, the data can point us toward areas of the market that have been beaten down or are unpopular and that may be ripe for recovery. It's also important to consider the contrary case at a time when our own biases may push us toward high-flying funds that may be reaching a tipping point.



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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Feb 4 2021, 09:52 PM)
If you are only taking into account the one time contribution/sales charge then the calculation is correct.

Haven't taken into account the yearly management fee and once that is taken into account the numbers match.
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for a CIS (/UT funds), the NAV is used to calculates the fund performance or returns....
the NAV is net of all fees


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post Feb 4 2021, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 4 2021, 10:05 PM)
for a CIS  (/UT funds), the NAV is used to calculates the fund performance or returns....
the NAV is net of all fees
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Yes I know that.

The above illustration was for a hypothetical fund not one that is already in the market.


I guess it wasn't a clear illustration so maybe the one below will shed more light on it

https://investor.vanguard.com/investing/how...impact-of-costs

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I get where you are coming from and if the fund has enough alpha and a big if then it doesn't matter like below for the short run

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http://doc.morningstar.com/document/ce5805...2c4533bcc966857

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 4 2021, 09:04 PM)
investment sum 100 000
duration 30 yrs
ROI 9.2%
sales charge 1%, 2%, 3%

are all from earlier postings....just that the impact of the sales charges on the total sum are not that great a percentage as per the earlier postings

also, the sales charges amount if amortized it over a 30 yrs periods will be very significant (or just very little)
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As a long term believer of Bitcoin and Tesla, it is great to see this coming from Ark Investment
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QUOTE(Eisenmeteor @ Feb 4 2021, 04:46 PM)
Anyone purchased this etf ?
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post Feb 5 2021, 08:20 PM

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For those who haven't invested yet do take note of the current outperformance and have an exit plan if things don't work out.

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post Feb 6 2021, 11:06 PM

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Hmm......

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...name-money-tree

In South Korea, retail investors have given Cathie Wood a nickname: “Money Tree.” Looking at the pile of cash now managed by Ark Investment Management, it’s easy to see why.

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Ark’s exchange-traded fund assets under management crossed $50 billion this week, up from only $3.6 billion at this time last year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. In 2021 alone, investors have funneled almost $11 billion in Wood’s family of funds.

The new record underscores the flood of money pouring into thematic products, tracking topics like genomics and fintech, as retail traders put money to work in funds with relatable narratives. Wood’s eye-popping returns catch the pros’ attention, while her approachable persona attracts investors just starting out.



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Comparison with Janus Henderson

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