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post Dec 31 2021, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Dec 22 2021, 02:17 PM)
Thanks for this. Looking at your coverage mine is small sum only haha

Alrite I will stick with rm400k total available cash in case if I die.

Medical already got.
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hi CoolStoryWriter, yeap i see that you have no difficulty paying the premium at the current moment. whether you need it or not, it really depends on the risk you and your family can take. there's no right or wrong or a definite answer. before analyzing further, I can't give much comment on your scenario, best is to leave it as it is first. smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2022, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(joonh @ Jan 3 2022, 03:10 PM)
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hi joonh, dont say yourself noob. we are all here to learn wink.gif answers in spoiler post above smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2022, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Jan 4 2022, 12:11 AM)
Just for discussion sake, ILP has adjustment/increment on the premium too when it cannot sustain due to watever reason(medical inflation rising higher then investment portion,etc )

So end up ILP still need to pay higher like standalone.
What your comment?
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hi onthefly, indeed the premium for ILP aint guarantee and is subject to change should the insurance charges increased or funds performance is unable to sustain the policy until coverage term. if you are just referring to medical card, standalone premium is also subject to change. the reason of looking into ILP plans is if you wanna have something that standalone plan doesn't have, premium wise, i will say treat it as the same. it will be too technical to go into in depth discussion. perhaps you can ask a few agents friends and see how they explain to you. wink.gif

btw the question you raised is good thumbsup.gif
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post Jan 5 2022, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jan 5 2022, 07:13 AM)
Standalone premium change / increase according to age entry during the entire coverage. One is prepared to pay an increase when he reaches the new age barrier. Is not subject to 'investment failure' unlike other products link to it.

Similarly to fixed loan housing loan interest. The repayment is fixed for the entire tenure. Unlike yearly rest interest rate, repayment will change according to market investment situation of the banks.

For variable premiums, quantum of increase is uncertain and can affect affordability of insured if the % increase is high. Some may eventually terminate the policy or reduce coverage to sustain the policy.

Insurance is a product where one buys for coverage in the event of something happen. If one understands that, then it wont go wrong in the purchase.

Is NEVER an investment per say.

Insurer use the word 'Sustainability' to put 'fear' on the insured to continue the 'INVESTMENT'. Just like the dr advise ...if you dont take your medication, you will die !
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hi mini orchard, standalone medical card premium change/increase according to age is correct. but that premium table is also subject to change as well. even though there is not "investment" involved. of course, check the policy contract document. maybe some standalone got guaranteed premium but there are some standalone medical card that the premium has been adjusted.

take this for example Great Medic Xtra (i cant attach link due to account still new). attached is the TnC in the brochure under the premium table rates




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post Jan 5 2022, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 5 2022, 11:08 PM)
is this the brochure of your mentioned product?
GREAT MEDIC XTRA +
GREAT EXTENDER
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hi MUM, yes its correct. thanks for attaching the link for me. it did happened before that standalone medical card's premium is adjusted.
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post Feb 7 2022, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(DwayneD @ Jan 27 2022, 10:39 AM)
Oh no, i'm not trying to beat the system ! I'm just looking for 10-20 years coverage, after which the price will get revised i believe ?
AXA offers 500k coverage at 79 RM a month for example. That's 7 times cheaper AIA's until 70 y.o. policy.

I just want to cover less and less as i grow older.
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hi Dwayne, are you referring to eLife Protector+?
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post Feb 9 2022, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(DwayneD @ Feb 8 2022, 03:12 PM)
I believe yes. lifetime until 100 years old Allianz is even cheaper than AIA, i don't understand, i'll have to go to an AIA point to get more info and compare better.
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better if you have the official illustration from both and look at the details. just looking at the premium and benefits aint enough. check the fine print of the product illustration (quotation)
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post Mar 23 2022, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(ineser @ Mar 23 2022, 02:29 PM)
Income around RM 7k per month. Currently single however going to get married mid of this year.
I'm just wondering does AIA, Prudential or Great Eastern has similar package... Just wanna know their pricing too.
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hi ineser, most insurance company packages have what you quoted. most importantly is making sure that is the coverage you want. and since you are getting married mid of this year (i will say quite soon), you can actually let agent know about this situation and straightaway factor this in for your insurance planning. put aside premium amount first, discuss and focus on the coverage needed, then you will be more clear of what you need in your insurance coverage.
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post Apr 17 2022, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Apr 15 2022, 02:03 PM)
Just thinking out loud, would mental illnesses be covered by insurance? Like visiting shrinks, talking² while the doctor scribble on notes
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Not sure about others, medical card by AXA Affin General Insurance does covers the below:

In-patient & Out-patient Psychiatric Treatment
Benefit of the following:
• Major Depressive Disorder
• Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
• Post- Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
• Anorexia Nervosa, Bulimia Nervosa and
Polyphagia (compulsive over-eating)
• Schizophrenia
• Bipolar Disorder
• Anxiety

this category claim is RM3,000 per annum.

Details here: fi.life/pdf/medical/PDS_SCO_SCO_Plus_01072021.pdf
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post Apr 21 2022, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ahkuan @ Apr 18 2022, 12:01 PM)
Hi Sifus, wanna ask if i am paying too much for my current AIA premium.. bought recently (26 yo, non smoke/drink some times).
Should i downgrade abit??  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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1more benefit is the health wallet (RM 1,500 will be credited if no claim made) only can use for screening/body check etcc
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hi Ahkuan, it's very hard for us to determine because there are many factors. its best to discuss with your agent again.
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post Apr 23 2022, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Apr 23 2022, 12:47 PM)
Can do termination online for GE policy? My agent dissappear many years
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hi blibala, the only way to do it without going to GE is to submit via eConnect. if you need any guide on that just let me know, so I can guide you which forms are needed and what to be submitted wink.gif
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post Apr 23 2022, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(CoolStoryWriter @ Apr 22 2022, 11:03 PM)
also, since I already have MLTA from house loan, I dont think I need life insurance. Is this a good idea to just get a standalone medical card?
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hi CoolStoryWriter, it's best to discuss with an agent on the spot because by discussing face to face, it's easier to know your concern and solve it then you will be clear on what you actually want. as we don't know your exact financial situation. so we dont simply say "yea just get a standalone medical card is good for you". perhaps discuss with the agent that you got your MLTA with, i think that is a good start. thumbsup.gif
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post Apr 27 2022, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(ykaism @ Apr 26 2022, 10:37 AM)
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hi ykaism, i'd did 3 times of claims that is similar to your scenario. so far 3 of the claims yeap can claim, even the excessive room&board can also be claimed whereby I'm surprised. I also learnt it through just submitting. anyway, for your friend's case, is it best to always use the 2nd medical card first, then just submit the claim to the 1st medical card insurer for the RM5k deductible. I mean no harm trying if it really happens. smile.gif

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Apr 26 2022, 12:44 PM)
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hi mini orchard, based on the claims i did before, when you submit the excessive amount to the 2nd insurer, there is a section in the claim form whereby it asked whether is this bill claimed from other insurer as well. so what i did was to fill in that section and also submit the Final GL issued by the first insurer. submit any original receipts if any. out of the 3 claims like that that I did, one of it i used duplicated itemized hospital receipts somemore because the original one is submitted to the first insurer. no problem too so long can justify to the 2nd insurer.
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post Apr 28 2022, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 28 2022, 12:13 PM)
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bro got the link to both articles? that will be useful too wink.gif
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post May 13 2022, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ May 12 2022, 11:27 PM)
Still comparing
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if you dont mind not going through agent, you can really look into buying it direct online. term insurance though. In terms of premium, guess that is consider very cheap.
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post May 16 2022, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 16 2022, 12:52 AM)
just to buy for a simple protection...

becuase it is too low..
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hi plouffle0789, perhaps you can get a quote at fi.life
easier for you to know roughly how much the premium will be...

QUOTE(kucingfight @ May 16 2022, 09:28 AM)
thanks, can you roughly estimate a price for

-standalone medic card. age 39F, non smoker, working in education line, no known health issue
- 500-1m/annual, no lifetime limit
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hi kucingfight, estimate RM200 per month for what you are looking for wink.gif
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post May 17 2022, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ May 17 2022, 09:36 PM)
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the reason of premium difference is because of the different plan type.

the one your dad bought with AIA and GE comes with maturity value (highly likely). the one you see in fi.life is purely just for life insurance and its premium is based on age. so if you check further for the premium rates, you will find out that premium increases over the years. and for this term insurance by fi.life, there is no maturity/cash value/surrender value in it. i still think that the one your dad bought from AIA and GE is actually not that bad though.
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post May 19 2022, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ May 18 2022, 07:51 PM)
Hi there. I'm in a dilemma. Am living overseas for long term. Eg more than 10 years. I've no idea if I will get back to Malaysia. Is it worth continuing with my existing insurance policy? Or should I just cancel it and live with a higher insurance premium if I do return in the future?
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hi pmaxv, if there is still a chance that you will come back and reside in Malaysia, I will say it is best you keep it first. Unless you are very sure that you are staying overseas for good and will never come back anymore.

QUOTE(henrytamfh @ May 19 2022, 03:56 PM)
i have a question about cancelling life insurance policy, maybe someone here can answer.
i have a life policy about 30 years ago , would like to cancel terminate it and get the cash value , as it is more than the policy payout . but when i inquire to surrender it , am told that i need to get the beneficiary signature as well else cant be done. problem is there is bad blood between beneficiary and me - so stuck at this . is there any way to go about this , surprise as i am the policy holder and paid for it all. so i basically have no rights as a policy holder ?
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hi henry, btw what is the relation of the nominee to you?

QUOTE(OptimusStar @ May 19 2022, 08:21 PM)
Any suggestions ? So far i only manage to find Gibraltar BSN .
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you can check out fi.life if you are looking into buying online direct. can also check out from AXA too.

QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ May 19 2022, 09:08 PM)
i had the same exact issue with you also and am told that i need the beneficiary signature to close the policy. i waited till the due date and refused to pay, it will automatically lapse and pay you back.
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hi ExCrIpT, when policy is lapse, means there is nothing left in the policy to give back.
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post May 21 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kakwen @ May 19 2022, 10:08 PM)
Is it worthed it to buy medical insurance for hospital in case of anything or just put money into stock and let it earn then take out if needed
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when it comes to insurance, it's not about worth it or not if compared to investment. one is for risk transfer another one is for wealth accumulation. in general, i will say better to have both wink.gif

QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ May 20 2022, 05:54 PM)
my Premium per year is around 800++, been paying for more than 20 years. i got back 10k
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ok good to hear that at least you'd managed to take back something thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(umboy @ May 20 2022, 07:40 PM)
Do not buy from bank insurance agent
They will push products for commission
The coverage is small amount and all are insurance link investment
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hi umboy, if it is for saving a portion asides its still okay but not for insurance. bancassurance ("bank insurance agent") is not very well verse with insurance policies especially when it comes to the protection side. that's why they propose mostly on savings which has low coverage. can't blame them as that is not their profession.
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post May 21 2022, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 21 2022, 10:04 PM)
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hi kerolzarmyfanboy, if you are just talking about medical card, yeap the AIA one you mentioned is good, just dont forget to add in the booster to increase the annual limit to at least a million. for premium of around RM300, maybe you can look into getting at least coverage to payout upon diagnosis of critical illnesses. for this better to have it discuss with agent/advisor. wink.gif

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