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Ramjade
post Dec 11 2025, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 11 2025, 08:49 PM)
Wait a minute.... So hbp now have something to do with cancer?

Which causes which?

That's the spirit. Pusing until cannot pusing and yet pusing for some.
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Stress causes blood pressure to rise ma. πŸ˜…
That is why if you don't work, no stress.

The insurance assumed that he is hiding his high blood pressure which is non disclosure.

They have investigated 6 years of record showing he is clean. So can see very obvious they refuse to pay out. I am not medical person but if 6 years clean, likely clean. Unless beli own ubat at pharmacy, then no record 😈

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MUM
post Dec 11 2025, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 11 2025, 09:44 PM)
cause and effect vs correlation

this study took cancer patient and check their HBP...
to cross check, should also take all patients with HBP and check if got cancer...
me no doc.... last time I took any studies remotely about diseases was back in form5.

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That is why they checked that RAMU cancer and Hyoertension claims so vigorously.



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post Dec 11 2025, 10:30 PM

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Regarding that 3 yrs start to claim sure can get approved....

I think, they may approved that admission and gives out GL and also discharge bill.....
After that. I think, the insurance company will study the claims and hospital reports and if they suspects or think that it warrants more indepth look, I believes they will starts their own investigation....perhaps visits clinics/hospital near the place of residence and workplaces for any medical records of said person.
Or even the death record or medical history of immediate family members to see if they are any similar illness, if there are and if it was not declared when ask, then could be a non disclosure of material facts.
(I remembered when I bought last time, I was asked when my parents die and what were the reason.)
If no issue than OK...
If found to hv non disclosures, like example, you stated your family members has no medical issues but later if the insurance company found out that some of them has cancer and you are the one paying for their treatment or doing the admission/Discharge paperwork process or signing documentation for that hospitalisation, then..maybe they will take action., perhaps cancel the policy and returns some of the premium paid.
"You could be wilfully withholding information related to your insurance risk or insurance policy even if no-one asks you about that subject you’re trying to hide. The insured is not allowed to conceal or hide any information from the insurer – concealment can also lead to cancellation of the contract."

So even if one start to claim after 3 yrs, ...GL cashless admission approved, but the company i think can still investigate if the wanted too.
Perhaps for certain illness,...i think they will not but if for some Chronic disease issues that usually manifest slowly or has early detectable systoms or illnesses that needed long term treatments and will cost alot each time, they may..
Better to spend few k to do the investigation than do nothing and see frequent "potentially suspicious" claims payout. Confirm it than it will not be suspicious. Ha ha

Just my thinking and guess only as I am not in this field

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post Dec 11 2025, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 11 2025, 10:30 PM)
Regarding that 3 yrs start to claim sure can get approved....

I think, they may approved that admission and gives out GL and also discharge bill.....
After that. I think, the insurance company will study the claims and hospital reports and if they suspects or think that it warrants more indepth look, I believes they will starts their own investigation....perhaps visits clinics/hospital near the place of residence and workplaces for any medical records of said person.
Or even the death record or medical history of immediate family members to see if they are any similar illness, if there are and if it was not declared when ask, then could be a non disclosure of material facts.
(I remembered when I bought last time, I was asked when my parents die and what were the reason.)
If no issue than OK...
If found to hv non disclosures, ..maybe they will take action., perhaps cancel the policy and returns some of the premium paid.

So even if one start to claim after 3 yrs, ...GL cashless admission approved, but the company i think can still investigate if the wanted too.
Perhaps for certain illness,...they will not but if for illnesses that needed long term treatments and will cost alot each time, they may..
Better to spend few k to do the investigation than do nothing and see frequent "potentially suspicious" claims payout.  Confirm it than it will not be suspicious. Ha ha

Just my thinking and guess only as I am not in this field
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So far the period where they decline the GL is within 2 year. After 2 years the cashless facility is fully active. Yes they have every right to investigate but investigation cost money.
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post Dec 11 2025, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 11 2025, 11:04 PM)
So far the period where they decline the GL is within 2 year. After 2 years the cashless facility is fully active. Yes they have every right to investigate but investigation cost money.
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Better spend some money earlier than continue to pay future claims blindly.
If they can found 1 non disclosure of material fact that can have impact on their earlier decision to accept you applications then cukup lah for them

Btw, not all non disclosure have merits for them to void your existing policy

 

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