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JIUHWEI
post Feb 19 2024, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 19 2024, 09:09 AM)
21 years ago Alliance Bank had some corporation with Allianz Insurance which offered life/term insurance with monthly RM90 for 20 years and a guaranteed payout of total payments paid + 20%

The life insurance = 200k
Accident dealth = 200k * 200%

I am looking for this type of life insurance with the cheapest cost. Ada?
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Ada.
But there's a minimum Life sum assured at RM 1mil.

Cool?
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post Feb 21 2024, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 19 2024, 02:36 PM)
Get well soon 👌
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Doctor ask me to play less sports. Or at least don't go so hard.
Basically my Achilles tendon overexerted. TL;DR - I have a body of a 50+ year old..


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post Feb 21 2024, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 21 2024, 05:09 PM)
Hai yah, you training for Olympic ah.

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I owe it to my wife and child to be there and to have the capacity for whatever it is, especially when it matters.

So yeah, it is the ongoing race of my life.

And when I can no longer run, my policies step in to go the remaining distance in my place.
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post Feb 23 2024, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 19 2024, 03:45 PM)
Anyone can explain how to split a claim to 2 medical cards?

Like say if fees is 50K and got 3K deductible/co-insurance can use another card to claim for that 3K amount?
The thing is both companies requests for original receipts and/or hospital reports. How do i submit only 1 original copy to both?

Also related to above, the real situation i want to ask..
I was admitted but post-admission is pay&claim and no issue for claiming post-admission.
However i want to ask does outpatient GP also considered as pre-admission? Is it depends on the policy clause?
Lets say policy does say GP pre-admission not covered, is it possible to claim this GP pre-admission under different medical card (as per 1st question)?
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The first set of original receipts, you take and go claim it from the first policy.
The first policy will then issue a settlement statement, detailing what was paid and what wasn't. For example, the 3k deductible or co-insurance.
If the 3k is a deductible, yes you can take the settlement statement that shows the deductible payments made to the hospital and claim it from the second policy.
If the 3k is a co-insurance, then no you won't be able to claim a co-insurance payment from the second policy. Because it is a co-insurance.

However i want to ask does outpatient GP also considered as pre-admission? Is it depends on the policy clause?
Yes, with a referral letter that led to the eventual hospitalization, up to the periods stipulated in the policy contract.
Eg: 30 days, 60 days etc, before hospital admission,

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post Feb 23 2024, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Feb 23 2024, 02:00 PM)
Thanks now i know how it works.

This company medical card under GE says they dont cover Pre-hospital medication and GP consultation.
I went back to the GP request for receipts for all visits period of 1 month for the same illness before the admission end up GE says all not covered.
Can still claim these using personal medical card?
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It says "subsequent consultation" by GP and Pre-medications not covered.
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Yeah, with a referral letter from said GP that led to the admission.
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post Feb 26 2024, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 25 2024, 03:28 PM)
Thanks for the tip yea, this seemed to have flipped the situation. Now approved with no further question. In the letter they were asked for the source of their information.

Is there any further risk or consider case closed? Can they drag this up again if there is a related claim 5 or 10 years down the road?
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Dah settle la bro.
It's like a court case.

Take for example a claim comes up some time later.
This will be the drill internally:
They will check your application, then all the deferments that came with it.
So yes, they will see that eh got deferment, how come no answer wan?
They will dig internally first and find that "eh wtf, how come there was a deferment in the first place?"
AT MOST what they will do is to check with the doctor's report submitted at the time.

If there's nothing to be triggered, then you're good bro.


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post Feb 26 2024, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Feb 25 2024, 08:33 PM)
I see. It's more like, how much I can afford vs whatever is being offered
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Sounds like you need a financial health check done.

Journey with @lifebalance and you should be solid bro.
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post Feb 26 2024, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Feb 26 2024, 10:09 AM)
Deferment mean what? First time coming across this term
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Neh, the memo where they ask you about your neck pain, back pain, ask you to submit this report that report.. etc
That's a deferment.
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post Feb 28 2024, 03:31 PM

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post Feb 29 2024, 12:20 PM

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Anyways, here's a friendly reminder to everybody

RENEW IMMEDIATELY TODAY:
1. YOUR CAR INSURANCE
2. YOUR PA INSURANCE
3 YOUR FIRE INSURANCE
4. ANY INSURANCE THAT IS NOT YOUR INDIVIDUAL LIFE INSURANCE

Why leh?
Come tomorrow, SST will be 8%
Even if you have renewed but have not paid, so long as your transaction date is March 1, 2024, you will still need to cough up an extra 2% in SST, prorated to the coverage period.

Big thanks to @coolguy_0925 for rectifying my mistake.
Kthxbai

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post Feb 29 2024, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Feb 29 2024, 12:30 PM)
Even if you have renewed but have not paid, so long as your transaction date is March 1, 2024, you will still need to cough up an extra 8% 2% in SST, prorated to the coverage period.

So confirm even my coverage is after 29 Feb and I paid today later on won't come and ask to cough up that 2%?
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Yes betul.
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post Mar 2 2024, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 2 2024, 01:07 PM)
May I ask how much is your life insurance coverage and premium? I'm meeting my agent when he comes back from his course. Need to see the average people pay. Many thanks
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I pay about 3.6k monthly in insurance premiums.
My Life coverage is 4.3mil.

There's a good reason why I want it at that figure la.
So I won't cancel it wan. Ever.
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post Mar 2 2024, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Mar 1 2024, 10:12 AM)
Game changer for medical insurance going forward. Please read this:

https://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/20124/9380...ack-ed-mhit.pdf
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Thanks for sharing bro thumbsup.gif

Save us a lot of saliva and typing time.
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post Mar 5 2024, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Mar 4 2024, 08:21 AM)
Want to ask,
I got medical card insurance,
While my company also buy 1 for me....
Since now financial abit tight,
Plan to on hold my own medical card or cancel...
Possible to on hold for 1~2 year and then continue again?
Or only can cancel?

My sis not advise me to cancel...
She say if anything happen,
When 1st medical card use finish,
Can continue draw from 2nd medical card...
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I would listen to your sister.
I think she has your best interest at heart. thumbsup.gif

I also agree with what others have said, if your policy allows for it, take the premium holiday option for now.

Start paying again when you get back on your feet.
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post Mar 6 2024, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Mar 5 2024, 10:30 PM)
The letter only specifies if the selected amount is lower, not higher.

Anyways, I also think it should be 95% in any case, just wanted some confirmation if anyone knew about it.
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It should be regular top-up, at least this is the case in AIA.

Seems vague.. But I believe it should be mentioned in the correspondence letter.

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post Mar 11 2024, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(SeanJeremiah @ Mar 11 2024, 07:06 AM)
Hello sifus. Please help clear my mind on my Great Eastern policies. There's so much I don't understand about insurance policies eventhough I'm heavily invested in them.

About me: Male, 32, Annual income RM 80k. Essentially debt-free. Currently renting, considering home ownership in 3 - 8 years.

1. Whole Life Participating 100k. Commencement 1993. Annual premium RM 1,140
2. Medical ILP SmartMedic Shield Plus 250. Commencement 2012. Monthly premium RM 300
3. Critical Illness ILP SmartProtect Legacy 500k. Commencement 2019. Monthly premium RM 350

My questions:

1. When should I consider an addtional whole life participating policy? What are the factors that I should look at to determine the sum assured?
2. Should I reallocate premiums for the ILPs to the Lion US-i Fund? Currrently they are split 50/50 between the Lion Enhanced Equity Fund and the Lion Balanced Fund.
3. Should I look at term policies? I consider the policies I have expensive to maintain.

Thanks so much.  smile.gif

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My responses:

1. When should I consider an addtional whole life participating policy? What are the factors that I should look at to determine the sum assured?
Why so specific? Does it absolutely have to be whole life & participating?

2. Should I reallocate premiums for the ILPs to the Lion US-i Fund? Currrently they are split 50/50 between the Lion Enhanced Equity Fund and the Lion Balanced Fund.
No comment.

3. Should I look at term policies? I consider the policies I have expensive to maintain.
Maybe you should. But until we do know for certain, I think we need to know much more than "I feel this is expensive/burdensome."



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post Mar 11 2024, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(cenkudu @ Mar 11 2024, 03:20 PM)
I have been with AXA medical insurance until Generali take over since 2010. Apparently the premium has been increased twice in 2021 (under AXA) and 2024 (under Generali). I was thinking to switch to get a better options but encounter some illness during the period of insurance coverage (although not requires hospitalization).... I believe if I switch to other medical insurance it will not be cover and put under exclusion, right?
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What is the illness?
Klo setakat batuk2 or little bit flu, nobody cares.

But if it's hypertension, something chronic, tulang patah... lain ceritanya.


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post Mar 15 2024, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(SeanJeremiah @ Mar 12 2024, 06:55 AM)
Thanks for chiming in MUM, lifebalance, and JIUHWEI.

Guess I'll have to manage with the policies I have now as it is the cost of having peace of mind.
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No thanks necessary bruh.
I don't think anything constructive was done or achieved.


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post Mar 18 2024, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 15 2024, 12:20 PM)
Meeting up with my agent after he gets back and I'm currently paying myr 1500 for my life insurance, 280 medical insurance for my son and 250 medical for my son. Making it too costly 2k plus just for insurance.

I'm thinking to reduce allocation of my monthly life insurance which is currently giving a pay out of 4 million on my death to a monthly premium of myr 500 to 700.

Fingers cross he doesn't try to talk me out of it cuz I would be very upset if he hard sells something which I really dislike.
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I just feel that you can be upfront and open about your current situation with your agent.
I'm sure he/she is open to do a Financial Health Check with you and from there it usually shows everything and the natural course of action to take.
No need to get angry, no need for him/her to hard sell anything, no need to like or dislike it cuz facts are facts.

Nobody will debate you on fire is hot and night is dark. thumbsup.gif

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post Mar 19 2024, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 19 2024, 02:59 PM)
I am a working male, 36, non-smoker, married with 2 kids (6yo and 3yo), wife is working. My monthly salary is 18k, wife is 9k. Outstanding home loan 627k, no MRTA.

Below is my current insurance plan from Generali:
- Life/TPD (150k, age 100)
- Accelerated CI rider (50k, age 100)
- 110 CI care (150k, age 81)
- Hospital income (RM200, age 75)
- Premium payer rider (age 100)
- Medical card (Annual limit 1.6mil, no life limit, age 80)

Questions:
- Any comment on my current plan?
- I feel like my life/TPD not really sufficient, should I top up or buy from other company?
- Is there better plan in the market? If yes, should I switch?
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Are you open for a Financial Health Check?

It tells you exactly what amounts to have for a coverage, and exactly for what reasons.

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