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post Jan 25 2021, 03:42 PM, updated 5y ago

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Hi, just wanna hear from some on the above! How lasting is the ignition coils of your car before you need replacement? Does it affect your car 's ECU to cause permanent damage? smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2021, 03:49 PM

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on my peugeot 308T, it's around 3 years before some of them failed. and it didnt cause any permanent ecu damage
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post Jan 25 2021, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(slaveone @ Jan 25 2021, 03:49 PM)
on my peugeot 308T, it's around 3 years before some of them failed. and it didnt cause any permanent ecu damage
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WOW! 3 yrs that was fast ! shocking.gif I just had one replaced today coz the whole car jerk when cold start! My car is 5yrs old. W205 c250.
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post Jan 25 2021, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 25 2021, 03:42 PM)
Hi, just wanna hear from some on the above! How lasting is the ignition coils  of your car before you need replacement? Does it affect your car 's ECU to cause permanent  damage? smile.gif
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Few weeks to life time
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post Jan 25 2021, 06:02 PM

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5 Years 160k KM still going strong
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post Jan 25 2021, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 25 2021, 05:44 PM)
Few weeks to life time
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this is the correct answer...
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post Jan 25 2021, 06:50 PM

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Not sure why, but most conti have ignition coil problem around 5 year +/- but Japanese can last. Never change any ignition coil for all my Japs - Nissan, Mazda, Toyotas, thr closest thst need to change are just coil plugs every 3-5 years
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post Jan 25 2021, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 25 2021, 06:50 PM)
but Japanese can last. Never change any ignition coil for all my Japs - Nissan, Mazda, Toyotas, thr closest thst need to change are just coil plugs every 3-5 years
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post Jan 25 2021, 07:53 PM

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Peugeot 308t - 125k km, ECU failed first before coil

Vw Passat - 110k km , failed ignition coil same time as ECU failure

Fiesta ecoboost, 102k km, failed ignition coil but ecu no issues

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post Jan 25 2021, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 25 2021, 06:50 PM)
Not sure why, but most conti have ignition coil problem around 5 year +/- but Japanese can last. Never change any ignition coil for all my Japs - Nissan, Mazda, Toyotas, thr closest thst need to change are just coil plugs every 3-5 years
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my swift within 4 yrs changed 3 set of coils...after that next 11 yrs ok...
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post Jan 25 2021, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Jan 25 2021, 06:02 PM)
5 Years 160k KM still going strong
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Mine almost 6 years almost 140k km still going strong

But how's to be sure? Maybe one of them is nearly faulty, what is the symptoms if it is dying?
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post Jan 25 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Jan 25 2021, 09:05 PM)
Mine almost 6 years almost 140k km still going strong

But how's to be sure?Ā  Maybe one of them is nearly faulty,Ā  what is the symptoms if it is dying?
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after cold start, whole car shake ! Torque is affected ! These are the two symptoms that i encountered ! There maybe more other symptoms . Mine got 4 and only one kong!

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post Jan 25 2021, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jan 25 2021, 07:53 PM)
Peugeot 308t - 125k km, ECU failed first before coil

Vw Passat - 110k km , failed ignition coil same time as ECU failure

Fiesta ecoboost, 102k km, failed ignition coil but ecu no issues
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maybe yu race your car too often! laugh.gif
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post Jan 25 2021, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 25 2021, 09:20 PM)
after cold start, whole car shake ! Torque is affected ! These areĀ  the two symptomsĀ  that iĀ  encountered ! There maybe more other symptoms . Mine got 4 and only oneĀ  kong!
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Did you change all 4 or only one?

What was the visible physical symptoms of the coil? Tear mark?

How about the plug cable?

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post Jan 25 2021, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 25 2021, 03:42 PM)
Hi, just wanna hear from some on the above! How lasting is the ignition coils  of your car before you need replacement? Does it affect your car 's ECU to cause permanent  damage? smile.gif
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VW.. anytime.
mine at year 6, 90k km.

ignition coils tend to fail faster on turbocharged cars.
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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Jan 25 2021, 09:05 PM)
Mine almost 6 years almost 140k km still going strong

But how's to be sure?  Maybe one of them is nearly faulty,  what is the symptoms if it is dying?
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Your car will choke similar to the experience of running out of fuel.
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post Jan 25 2021, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Jan 25 2021, 09:37 PM)
Did you change all 4 or only one?

What was the visible physical symptoms of the coil? Tear mark?

How about the plug cable?
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Not sure bro! Didn't get to see the damaged coil! I changed all at one go! Lazy to go SC too often! laugh.gif But was told that the dmamged coil affected the ECU! Lucky didn't damaged the ECU , if not really gong hei fatt choy! laugh.gif my car ECU cost RM 12k to replace! shakehead.gif

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post Jan 26 2021, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 25 2021, 03:42 PM)
Hi, just wanna hear from some on the above! How lasting is the ignition coils  of your car before you need replacement? Does it affect your car 's ECU to cause permanent  damage? smile.gif
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Depends on what car. My 2008 Mark X already around 150-160k km are still using original coils. However on my previous crappy Livina, I needed to replace them TWICE within just 80k km! First time was just around 50k km, just a shitty car!

As for effect on ECU, no damage whatsoever if your COP goes bad.

QUOTE(dwRK @ Jan 25 2021, 09:00 PM)
my swift within 4 yrs changed 3 set of coils...after that next 11 yrs ok...
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Huh, which Swift you have? The ZC21 or ZC31? My ZC31 still running fine but not sure if previous owner had replaced it before or not, looks like still original.
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post Jan 26 2021, 12:29 AM

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Used to be a common problem for BMW, my E46 Banyak masuk workshop because of ignition coil, cost me about 4 grand and not counting other things until I sold it off...nice ride yes, pain in the ass..yes too
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post Jan 26 2021, 01:10 AM

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Just changed all 4 for my 2004 big light camry. Coz plastic connector got brittle after so many years. I think after 16 17 years never changed before for 250k.

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post Jan 26 2021, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 26 2021, 12:29 AM)
Used to be a common problem for BMW, my E46 Banyak masuk workshop because of ignition coil, cost me about 4 grand and not counting other things until I sold it off...nice ride yes, pain in the ass..yes too
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Mind sharing what issues you have faced in detail? Thanks.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jan 26 2021, 12:24 AM)
Huh, which Swift you have? The ZC21 or ZC31? My ZC31 still running fine but not sure if previous owner had replaced it before or not, looks like still original.
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1st batch zc21...
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post Jan 26 2021, 10:34 AM

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Anyone know how to determine the ignition coil need to change? i have drove my honda city 2013 until now mean around 7 years. is it time to change ignition coil? i have replace my spark plug which even not fully worn i still change it.
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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Jan 26 2021, 10:34 AM)
Anyone know how to determine the ignition coil need to change? i have drove my honda city 2013 until now mean around 7 years. is it time to change ignition coil?  i have replace my spark plug which even not fully worn i still change it.
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Only when the engine suddenly misfiring or sputtering.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Jan 26 2021, 01:26 AM)
Mind sharing what issues you have faced in detail? Thanks.
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Ignition coil aside, the cooling system is a problem that left me stranded twice on the roadside - radiator, hoses and thermostat, steering rack, gasket and oil seals, arms and bushes, sold it before the next change cycle is due.
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 26 2021, 03:44 PM)
Ignition coil aside, the cooling system is a problem that left me stranded twice on the roadside - radiator, hoses and thermostat, steering rack, gasket and oil seals, arms and bushes, sold it before the next change cycle is due.
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How long did the cooling system last before it failed on you?
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Jan 26 2021, 06:54 PM)
How long did the cooling system last before it failed on you?
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I bought it 2nd, never occurred to me it failed within 1st year..change radiator and hoses, then 2nd time struck in 2nd year - this time thermostat and subsequently other things crept up..but still it's a good 5 years ownership, think I spent around 15k+ on repair not inclusive of servicing.
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 26 2021, 09:46 PM)
I bought it 2nd, never occurred to me it failed within 1st year..change radiator and hoses, then 2nd time struck in 2nd year - this time thermostat and subsequently other things crept up..but still it's a good 5 years ownership, think I spent around 15k+ on repair not inclusive of servicing.
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Thanks for sharing. Just got 1 several months ago and did some refreshes. Wanted to do a full cooling system refresh but my mechanic said the expansion tank seems new and the hoses are still pretty decent so I should wait to save money lol. Sometimes I do worry as the cooling system and the fuel pump are the biggest suspects in leaving us stranded. Glad to know your overall ownership was deemed as good haha.
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Recently changed the ignition coils on my 2013 Citroen DS4, car has done 32k since new.

Symptoms? Sluggish throttle response, high fuel consumption and rough idling.

Ignition coils for Conti cars are extremely sensitive to battery voltage, never ever get suckered into putting a higher voltage battery than the stock one.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Jan 27 2021, 03:54 AM)
Thanks for sharing. Just got 1 several months ago and did some refreshes. Wanted to do a full cooling system refresh but my mechanic said the expansion tank seems new and the hoses are still pretty decent so I should wait to save money lol. Sometimes I do worry as the cooling system and the fuel pump are the biggest suspects in leaving us stranded. Glad to know your overall ownership was deemed as good haha.
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My E46 was way back almost 10 years ago, the maintenance cost should be much lower by now I suppose. In regards to maintaining a BMW - always change the whole chain of parts- meaning - for example, once you change compressor, be prepared to change condenser, cooling coil, cooling fan etc, my mechanic always say conti require to change the whole rather than sum of parts otherwise subsequent failure is deem too risky and can potentially affect critical component. This is the reason why maintaining a conti require extra budget, u need to replace connected components - not sure if your mechanic give the same advise.
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post Jan 28 2021, 01:14 AM

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almost impossible to fail
potentially only the coil boot can get brittle and leak.
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I broke one of the brittle connectors of my 15-year-old Vios ignition coils when changing spark plugs. Didn't change, just secured with cable tie and it was good to go until I sold the car.



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Proton suprima 2014. 200k km still on default plug coil. All is good.
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post Jan 31 2021, 01:44 PM

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Just an update! The damaged coil somehow damaged the ECU and it cost me RM 11k to replace a new one! As i m quite Keng sei , so i got it done at franchise SC! Damn...have to relook at withdrawing from I-sinar liao! cry.gif
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QUOTE(ahmad92 @ Jan 31 2021, 11:39 AM)
Proton suprima 2014. 200k km still on default plug coil. All is good.
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ya....my myvi also around 80k mileage liao and all good! Just replaced the engine mounting recently!
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post Jan 31 2021, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 31 2021, 01:44 PM)
Just an update! The damaged coil somehow damaged the ECU and it cost me RM 11k to replace a new one! As i m quite Keng sei , so i got it done at franchise SC! Damn...haveĀ  to relook at withdrawing from I-sinarĀ  liao! cry.gif
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Feel sorry for the repair bill ....
Actually what is the mechanism a mal-function ignition coil can cause damage back to ECU ?
Surely a protective safety steps/diodes can be built into the ECU electronically right ?

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Jan 31 2021, 01:44 PM)
Just an update! The damaged coil somehow damaged the ECU and it cost me RM 11k to replace a new one! As i m quite Keng sei , so i got it done at franchise SC! Damn...have  to relook at withdrawing from I-sinar  liao! cry.gif
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Wow.
What ride?
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post Feb 1 2021, 12:32 AM

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Sorry to hear, maybe you should have look for ECU/chip repair specialist, but since it's already done, then no choice, otherwise these specialist will open your ECU and rebuilt..probably cost a fraction.
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QUOTE(HalseyFrangipane @ Jan 26 2021, 01:26 AM)
Mind sharing what issues you have faced in detail? Thanks.
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CAr jerk during cold start in the morning! when you turn off and restart again, everything gone back to normal . Also Suffered from torque issue when on low RPM around 1k @ 40km/h. This was a engine misfiring issue i belip.

QUOTE(zeng @ Jan 31 2021, 01:55 PM)
Feel sorry for the repair bill ....
Actually what is the mechanism a mal-function ignition coil can cause damage back to ECU ?
Surely a protective safety steps/diodes can be built into the ECU electronically right ?
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I did asked and google but cant seemed to find the right answer for this issue. My personal experience would be when if your car has torque issue, better to check the spark plugs and coil. Damaged coil will most likely damage the ECU if the issue is not being resolved early as i was told.
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Wow.
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C klasse!

QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 1 2021, 12:32 AM)
Sorry to hear, maybe you should have look for ECU/chip repair specialist, but since it's already done, then no choice, otherwise these specialist will open your ECU and rebuilt..probably cost a fraction.
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Thought so too bro but i preferred to have warranty for peace of mind as ECU is quite a critical part of the car. Actually i have gone for two opinions on this issue, one from the MErcs specialist workshop and one from C&C .

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Feb 1 2021, 09:55 AM)
CAr jerk during cold start in the morning! when you turn off and restart again, everything gone back to normal . Also Suffered from torque issue when on low RPM around 1k @ 40km/h. This was a engine misfiring issue i belip.
I did asked and google but cant seemed to find the right answer for this issue. My personal experience would be when if your car  has torque issue, better to check the spark plugs and coil.  Damaged  coil will most likely  damage the ECU if the issue is not being resolved early as i was told.
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Thought  so too bro but i preferred to  have warranty for peace of mind  as ECU is quite a critical part of the car. Actually i have  gone for two opinions on this issue, one from the MErcs specialist  workshop and one from C&C .
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Let me share, my car TCU (transmission control module) kong and I am practically stuck on gear...was outstation at the same time, it's was absolute panic - had to drive 200 km stop start before I reach nearest RNR for towing, due to stipulated distance

Checked with SC - the cost blew me sideway - rm2500 not inclusive of labor for new TCU. Then I surveyed around and found a specialist who advertised ECU repair. Again arrange for tow truck to sent to sg buloh - total repair rm1.5k - with 6 months warranty, whereas new TCU replacement at SC - 1 month warranty.. just sharing, maybe your SC give longer warranty..
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Got 3 cars and never replaced ignition coils before.
Oldest car is 16 years with over 200K mileage.

And yes, all 3 are Japs
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 2 2021, 01:00 AM)
Let me share, my car TCU (transmission control module) kong and I am practically stuck on gear...was outstation at the same time, it's was absolute panic - had to drive 200 km stop start before I reach nearest RNR for towing, due to stipulated distance

Checked with SC - the cost blew me sideway - rm2500 not inclusive of labor for new TCU. Then I surveyed around and found a specialist who advertised ECU repair. Again arrange for tow truck to sent to sg buloh - total repair rm1.5k - with 6 months warranty, whereas new TCU replacement at SC - 1 month warranty.. just sharing, maybe your SC give longer warranty..
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yes bro...a recond set cost half the price without warranty! C&C provides 24months .

 

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