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 the main problem with ewallets in Malaysia

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SUSlijor the great
post Jan 14 2021, 12:52 AM

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eWallet as a Customer, so far only Shopeepay one can withdraw from the app. try with TNG, grabpay, lazada not able to from the app, but I heard if you complain to them via email can.
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post Jan 14 2021, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Jan 14 2021, 12:15 AM)
over a dozen of wallets fighting each other now but none dominate the market which is bad for consumers
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You got your degree in business from where? Since when competition is bad for consumers?
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post Jan 14 2021, 12:55 AM

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thanks to the ewallet abuser, most close the loophole
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post Jan 14 2021, 12:56 AM

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Malaysia is adopting the duitnowqr mode. Now you can even use CIMB clicks and scan maybank qr and payment can be done
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:03 AM

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U must be new with e wallets

The one simple fact is that e wallet apps DO ALLOW business users to withdraw money to their bank account, it's just that it's not instant because it will only go through in a day or two after u made a settlement

Reasons why some merchants still insist on not adopting e wallet as payment method are because:

1. They're not exposed enough to tech stuff so cash is safer to them
2. They need instant cash because their business not doing well
3. They're not willing to pay for MDR fee because their business not doing well

What you said is never a problem, you just need to know about it, that's all.
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(xperiaDROID @ Jan 14 2021, 01:03 AM)
U must be new with e wallets

The one simple fact is that e wallet apps DO ALLOW business users to withdraw money to their bank account, it's just that it's not instant because it will only go through in a day or two after u made a settlement

Reasons why some merchants still insist on not adopting e wallet as payment method are because:

1. They're not exposed enough to tech stuff so cash is safer to them
2. They need instant cash because their business not doing well
3. They're not willing to pay for MDR fee because their business not doing well

What you said is never a problem, you just need to know about it, that's all.
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Of course business can withdraw otherwise whats the point of receiving payment via tng. Majority consumer concern is once reloaded can't withdraw with defeat the purpose of ewallet. Might as well call it edebitcard

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post Jan 14 2021, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jan 14 2021, 12:15 AM)
Don't know you are dumb or just ignorant.

If you are business owner, when customer uses e wallet the money will be banked into your bank account attached.

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TS not biz owner, listen to apek, makcik then assume. Even an idiot knows if can’t withdraw use for what? Untung bagi t’n go?

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post Jan 14 2021, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Jan 14 2021, 01:09 AM)
Of course business can withdraw otherwise whats the point of receiving payment via tng. Majority consumer concern is once reloaded can't withdraw with defeat the purpose of ewallet. Might as well call it edebitcard
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TS question was towards business users, not consumers

If you're talking about consumers like us, u gotta blame those cheapskate idiots who abused the withdrawal system just to get that few ringgits of breadcrumbs from their puny credit cards which is why now most e wallets don't allow withdrawal anymore

My take is that not being able to withdraw is fine if u just reload a sufficient amount to ur e wallet or just reload whenever u wanna use it before making ur payment, I don't think one would reload like more than RM 1k unless the person is buying something expensive.

This post has been edited by xperiaDROID: Jan 14 2021, 01:19 AM
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(tshin810 @ Jan 14 2021, 12:15 AM)
over a dozen of wallets fighting each other now but none dominate the market which is bad for consumers
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So u like monopoly?
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:46 AM

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bnm did try to do something. They introduced duitnow qr, the point is to unify all ewallet under the same qr code and with that you can possibly transfer to your bank without incurring charges. So far only shopee is on board, lets see
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post Jan 14 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ Jan 14 2021, 12:08 AM)
you cannot withdraw to bank. because of this all macik nasi lemak, pasar malam etc won't use ewallet as payment option. BNM should force grab, tng to allow withdraw to bank at least 1 free withdrawal a week.
i like using ewallet bc easy ma but this issue really bothers me.
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Who said cannot? u can use the universal QR duitnow by bnm, shopeepay can withdraw too



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post Jan 14 2021, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(NubPro @ Jan 14 2021, 01:46 AM)
bnm did try to do something. They introduced duitnow qr, the point is to unify all ewallet under the same qr code and with that you can possibly transfer to your bank without incurring charges. So far only shopee is on board, lets see
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now u can use all banks ewallet to pay using duitnow qr, including shopee pay

soon, bigpay, boost, tng, grabpay, favepay will integrate with duitnow qr

https://www.duitnow.my/DuitNow-QR/index.html
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post Jan 14 2021, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ Jan 14 2021, 12:08 AM)
you cannot withdraw to bank. because of this all macik nasi lemak, pasar malam etc won't use ewallet as payment option. BNM should force grab, tng to allow withdraw to bank at least 1 free withdrawal a week.
i like using ewallet bc easy ma but this issue really bothers me.
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Can wat
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post Jan 14 2021, 02:43 AM

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All jumping on hype train, none of them dominating.

Thus I'm still pay wave je
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post Jan 14 2021, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Jan 14 2021, 12:13 AM)
what u saying la.
if u do business, shud apply proper business ewallet & hav proper qr code.
not use your wallet as business.
business account can withdraw to bank la.
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This. TS never seen business one, thats why laa.
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post Jan 14 2021, 04:38 AM

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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ Jan 14 2021, 12:08 AM)
i like using ewallet bc easy ma but this issue really bothers me.
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Why does it bother you when TS is not the one doing business? Maybe you need to go back to school and get educated? Also btw, don't lump all ewallet together. MAE ewallet from Maybank functions the same as a normal bank account. You can transfer in and out of your MAE account, and you don't need to open a Maybank account. I'm not talking about FPX, you get an account number for your MAE account, you use that to instant bank transfer from say your CIMB Clicks, it just works.

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post Jan 14 2021, 05:52 AM

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Not only e-wallet but don't be surprised to see folks embracing back OLD/LOW tech further on when devices are even MORE expensive while MORE folks can't afford to buy/upgrade.
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post Jan 14 2021, 05:57 AM

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E-wallet merchant and normal account not same bro. Sum more most nasi lemak makcik didnt register with ssm, cannot register as e-wallet merchant.

Business register as merchant because no need to go bank in cash every evening, end of day report are automatically generated by the app, and some ewallet offer 0% charges while card terminal typically charge 1% for every payment.

As for customer, less trip to ATM to withdraw cash for use, plenty of rewards and cashback, wont forget topup TNG card/RFID and bloody block the whole smarttag/tng lane at 5pm weekday.

Also, contactless payment. cash dirty.
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post Jan 14 2021, 06:33 AM

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QUOTE(Carlos_Santan @ Jan 14 2021, 12:08 AM)
you cannot withdraw to bank. because of this all macik nasi lemak, pasar malam etc won't use ewallet as payment option. BNM should force grab, tng to allow withdraw to bank at least 1 free withdrawal a week.
i like using ewallet bc easy ma but this issue really bothers me.
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I realized that sometimes paying cash is faster than login my wallet and clicking the number for payment. Will the merchants return us any money if we inserted wrong number for payment?
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post Jan 14 2021, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Jan 14 2021, 12:40 AM)
Ppl use tng simply cuz of free credit. It will die off eventually
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i think touch n go will gain market share.
It can be used for toll gate/pay direct from e-wallet.
This is the reason people keep it.

Other e-wallet will simply die off without a core feature use.

Grab wallet can do the same with the riding system.
But problem with grab, not many people actually pay for the taxi everyday, which makes the core feature less desirable.
So people might not look at it as regular app.



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