Right I see. Thank you mate.

Can we use phone recordings of what mywork info my boss disseminate to us? Like for example, I find that my boss commonly love to ask us to do things his way, but when we present it to him, he'd twist his words and say "I never said that", "I never asked you to do like that". When you try to trace back and remind him of the conversation, he'd "buat tak tau". So will a phone recording of what he wants us to do considered legal in this case? Since knowing my boss, he can twist his words easily.

If the termination is not according to procedure, u can go to industrial relations to seek advice. They will take on ur case and contact your employer and have a meeting btw u 3 for a resolution either compensation or reinstatement.
If cannot, then industrial relations will escalate your case to human resource ministry and and they will try to
Mediate failing which will go to court.

I think you should keep it professional la. If they want to fire u, just go industrial relations and try to sort it.

In court only air dirty laundry ba

The meeting between the boss and us often ended with the boss having the final say. In this kind of cases you cannot win as an employee, as bosses often have a "god-like complex". Until the very last day it will always be the bosses' and managers' word against yours. However, the only way to have any kind of recompense is to have very solid evidence, which is close to impossible in cases like these.

Whatever evidence I have on me now isn't solid.

i have yet to see a manager or superior who can take his/ her subordinates criticism lightly. even angmoh are proud managers.

but if the manager want to immediately terminate you, the fastest way is to look into your KPI (if you are a poor performer). otherwise they will resort into pressuring you with tons of work. looks like a poor excuse to terminate someone with different opinion. funny thing is, does the HR agree with your boss and seek you?

however, if you are not in good terms with your boss, best thing to do is to leave the company. after all, your management needs him to continue the tasks at hand.

This post has been edited by klch87: Jan 5 2021, 05:19 PM

Even if poor performance the employee needs to be given warning letter and on a performance improvement plan. After these steps taken only can terminate.

Ts, why don’t u just grit your teeth and find another job in the mean time? It’s not worth it imo

In event of covid19 my old colleagues were terminated based of reason poor performance.

So yeah it may happen

I have already tendered my resignation in this last week or so. I don't think it's worth staying in a company where my boss and managers have no "black and white" way of doing projects. I may have mentioned somewhere (or not) that my boss loves to disseminate work and projects verbally. When you follow up with the updates or the finalised project with the boss, he can pusing lagi say "I never said that", "I never asked you to do that way". etc. And it's difficult to proof otherwise because there's just no "black and white" to proof that he said otherwise. We can send an email or whatsapp (in the company WA group) and rectify with him. However, 95% of the time it's ignored. Sometimes he can go back to saying "I didn't pay you to keep asking me questions like these." Not gonna lie this whole thing is getting stupid, because my boss just obviously don't want to work with us.

Worst case scenario when I leave this company, I still have my freelance work to fall back on. It's the only other income I can sustain myself on after leaving my day job.