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patienceGNR
post Dec 29 2020, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 28 2020, 11:51 PM)
beginner start manual car, free gear only start engine
pro start manual car, taruh gear 1, press clutch, start engine, extra 0.5 sec at traffic light....if kenot control well, car will jerk to front, then, engine mati  laugh.gif malu depan amoi

if mau jahanam the car, start engine with gear engaged  laugh.gif tapi legendary datsun 120Y and proton iswara tarak hal, no issue  flex.gif
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My car cannot start if no tekan clutch.

Also, if no car in front u kasi start when in gear (for cars that don't need to disengage clutch) the car will jump but it works also one. Car will still start and you can take off in a smooth first gear.
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 28 2020, 10:35 PM)
Bullshit.  Lololol

Catcon does nothing, or rather, affects nothing when you bump start.

ECU also doesn't, ecu is already powered up at the time you wanna bump start it.

Topkekkkkkk the difference between regular start and bump start is only not using the starter la bongok. If you spin your car tyre fast enough when it's on floor jack it can start also la (using the clutch dump in 2nd).

Tokok la u don't mislead. It's just placebo effect
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I was sharing my experience and advice I have been given before. Perhaps I may have been misled.

Sure, my dials misbehaving and electrics not working properly were all placebo. That they worked fine after battery change also I dreamt up.

Also, if battery is totally flat how would the ecu be powered? Pluck electricity from the air?

Want to call ppl bongok also watch your own words first. I am willing to admit I may be mistaken but if someone breaks something on your advice will you refund them?
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post Dec 29 2020, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 29 2020, 12:00 AM)
you are an (s)expert  cool2.gif
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post Dec 29 2020, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 29 2020, 09:18 AM)
don't put me so high up at the altar boss  sweat.gif
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post Dec 29 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 28 2020, 11:59 PM)
can start in gear, tapi driving skool teacher no teach jer  laugh.gif

ayam misquoted  whistling.gif taken out of context
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Betul. Start in gear, then quickly tekan throttle. But kecian starter motor kena overwork.
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post Dec 29 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 29 2020, 09:51 AM)
I learn a lot from you Sifu!

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 29 2020, 09:56 AM)
Betul. Start in gear, then quickly tekan throttle. But kecian starter motor kena overwork.
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yameh......ayam got very little experience in manual car, as my time can consider the start of the end of manual car liou, aka late 90s towards early 20s sweat.gif
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post Dec 29 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 29 2020, 10:04 AM)
lel.....lagi put me further high up  sweat.gif  doh.gif

ayam just nobody in /k, sembang kosong jer, where everyone and anyone in /k is my friend that i haven't meet in real life
yameh......ayam got very little experience in manual car, as my time can consider the start of the end of manual car liou, aka late 90s towards early 20s  sweat.gif
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You are such a humble sifu, very rare in 2020

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post Dec 29 2020, 10:07 AM

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new car no need all these nonsense laa...

just tekan brake and hantam the push start button can d laa...
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post Dec 29 2020, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 29 2020, 01:21 AM)
My car cannot start if no tekan clutch.

Also, if no car in front u kasi start when in gear (for cars that don't need to disengage clutch) the car will jump but it works also one. Car will still start and you can take off in a smooth first gear.
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i tot so long u free gear, can crank start your manual car liou (except when battery mati lah, then, u need to tolak kerata laugh.gif ) without tekan clutch?

if u crank start your car with gear engaged, the car will jerk to front, then, engine mati? Of course some car more forgiving, like iswara and datsun 120Y, so, long u quickly press clutch or add speed, engine won't mati oso.....

and, u tukar gear without press clutch, hamjadah, the sound of metal cranking each others sweat.gif
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 28 2020, 09:05 PM)
if u don't press brake, kenot start
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TS probably tried to push the car to start it.. and its not working.
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Dec 29 2020, 10:05 AM)
You are such a humble sifu, very rare in 2020
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reality is ayam nobody jer laugh.gif

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Doesn't work on newer cars with advanced security features.
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QUOTE(Dezs @ Dec 29 2020, 10:09 AM)
TS probably tried to push the car to start it.. and its not working.
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so called safety feature for those push start button car, no need key type laugh.gif
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Dec 29 2020, 03:10 AM)
I was sharing my experience and advice I have been given before. Perhaps I may have been misled.

Sure, my dials misbehaving and electrics not working properly were all placebo. That they worked fine after battery change also I dreamt up.

Also, if battery is totally flat how would the ecu be powered? Pluck electricity from the air?

Want to call ppl bongok also watch your own words first. I am willing to admit I may be mistaken but if someone breaks something on your advice will you refund them?
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It will be powered by alternator lo. You sure don't know anything, do you? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

QUOTE(2feidei @ Dec 29 2020, 10:08 AM)
i tot so long u free gear, can crank start your manual car liou (except when battery mati lah, then, u need to tolak kerata  laugh.gif ) without tekan clutch?

if u crank start your car with gear engaged, the car will jerk to front, then, engine mati? Of course some car more forgiving, like iswara and datsun 120Y, so, long u quickly press clutch or add speed, engine won't mati oso.....

and, u tukar gear without press clutch, hamjadah, the sound of metal cranking each others  sweat.gif
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My car got sensor, if clutch not in then engine won't frank.

Cb that grinding sound really beh tahan leh krekkk krekkkkk
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 29 2020, 12:04 PM)
It will be powered by alternator lo. You sure don't know anything, do you? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
My car got sensor, if clutch not in then engine won't frank.

Cb that grinding sound really beh tahan leh krekkk krekkkkk
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machiem engine mau fall down from the bonnet laugh.gif
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post Dec 29 2020, 12:22 PM

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Any method that will start your car wont damage your car. you think manufacturer so stupid?
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Dec 29 2020, 12:04 PM)
It will be powered by alternator lo. You sure don't know anything, do you? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
My car got sensor, if clutch not in then engine won't frank.

Cb that grinding sound really beh tahan leh krekkk krekkkkk
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As usual, /k/ full of geniuses with overinflated sense of their knowledge.

I admit before this I was misinformed, in common cases push start in a modern car too is not a problem. But if I were you, I'd do some background on following scenarios:

a) Battery being completely dead, not even enough to power up alternator rotor winds and fuel pump, and the slow push is insufficient to provide enough power

b) Issue not just being weak battery, but other as factors well leading to unburnt fuel being dumped into the cat converter (commonly referenced in many car manuals as a warning against push start)

I will concur with you, most cases it's non issue but not 100% foolproof
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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Dec 28 2020, 09:07 PM)
Push the car to around 15km/h or more, jump in the car, clutch in, (still clutch in) select 2nd Gear, quickly release the clutch, jerk and car starts
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