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post Sep 16 2007, 09:18 PM

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Well, it is becoz it is of no use to you as yet.
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post Sep 16 2007, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 16 2007, 07:16 PM)
have you try the 40D liveview feature, i feel that not very good to use.
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Well, living in Malaysia surely got a lot of chances for good macro shot. I own a sigma 150mm f2.8 and Mt-24ex twin lite.... for instance, let just say you go to kl butterfly park and want to shoot at 1:1 magnification at the same level or lower than the angle of the butterfly..... you're eye stuck following the viewfinder while trying to lengthen your neck (which will not going to work)..... If got live view, I don't have to do this gymnastic stuff... tongue.gif
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post Sep 16 2007, 10:26 PM

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lying down cant meh?
or squat or whatever gymnastic stuff that is needed.

dont you guys think that liveview is abit hard to see?
unless it is instant like how the viewfinder is... if there is event a 0.001 second delay... i think it will suck
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post Sep 16 2007, 11:01 PM

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i could say 40D liveview kinda hard to get a sharp perfect focus.. i press AF-ON button few times before i get the focus... not sure what really happen... maybe my skill... _-_""

1Ds Mark III and 1D Mark III really poisoning... the 500mm damn freaking heavy...
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post Sep 16 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 16 2007, 10:26 PM)
lying down cant meh?
or squat or whatever gymnastic stuff that is needed.

dont you guys think that liveview is abit hard to see?
unless it is instant like how the viewfinder is... if there is event a 0.001 second delay... i think it will suck
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I guess once we have the technology, we would start using it or find ways to start using it. smile.gif
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post Sep 16 2007, 11:36 PM

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post Sep 16 2007, 11:43 PM

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How much would those cost?
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post Sep 17 2007, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Sep 16 2007, 11:36 PM)
A friend of mine tested the 40D at YLCamera. Seems that when in LIVEVIEW mode you can ONLY Manual Focus.
Please check your facts again.

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post Sep 17 2007, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(lordcarl @ Sep 17 2007, 02:32 AM)
Please check your facts again.
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Sorry. Re-checked the reviews. AF-On button to auto-focus which drops the mirror momentarily to achieve focus and then lifts it again to restore the Live View.

THanks for the heads up. I think my friend didn't try this when he tested the unit......
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post Sep 17 2007, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Sep 17 2007, 02:53 AM)
Sorry. Re-checked the reviews. AF-On button to auto-focus which drops the mirror momentarily to achieve focus and then lifts it again to restore the Live View.

THanks for the heads up. I think my friend didn't try this when he tested the unit......
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the liveview will not show all the autofocus point, i find it hard to focus on the object i want to shoot.
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post Sep 17 2007, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Sep 16 2007, 10:26 PM)
lying down cant meh?
or squat or whatever gymnastic stuff that is needed.

dont you guys think that liveview is abit hard to see?
unless it is instant like how the viewfinder is... if there is event a 0.001 second delay... i think it will suck
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Live view is meant to remove the problem of taking pictures in weird angles. Usually macros or floor level shots which mostly consist of landscape or interior shots. You don't need the speed to capture these moments. If you use the live view on a dSLR just like on a P&S, then you are not smart enough to use a dSLR. Go back to P&S newbie.
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post Sep 17 2007, 05:57 PM

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snowmei and robertngo: I experienced something similiar.

Tried the 40D in Live View. Moved the AF rectangle upwards onto a brightly lit, highly contrasty saleswoman in the Canon booth. Pressed the AF On on her. It didn't focus. Pressed it a few times, still didn't focus. Her face filled exactly the rectangle.

Asked the salesman why. He played with it a bit, then he pressed the AF On on another person, and it focused! The rectangle was in the same area. He then turned it out of focus, and did it again. It looked quick in the short moment that the mirror blanked out. Click, blackout, reappear in focus.

"Uh why ah justnow cannot?"
"Oh this one pre-production model mah..."

I wonder if moving the AF rectangle to somewhere where it does not have cross-type sensors will affect its performance. It was horizontally one thirds up and vertically center, which should be very safe!

I hope they fix it before releasing it, unlike the 1D Mark III. Even in standard shopping mall hallway lighting, it was disappointingly backfocusing (when not in Live View!) with the 24-105mm F4L IS USM.
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post Sep 17 2007, 08:16 PM

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When there's new feature, people will always try to make use of it laugh.gif I don't even know what's the point of having live view without flipping lcd. If you want to shoot flat down on the ground, use an angled finder.

@albnok
you mean the 40D was back-focusing? it's canon nia, why am I not surprised. But I believe it has more to do with the lens than the body, canon is notorious with their lens focusing issue and QC. Besides, f4 isn't really gonna cut it indoor.
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post Sep 18 2007, 10:42 AM

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40D? YL brought in just 5 40D'S and they all got sold within hours. my dad bought it.(if u want reviews, i can't give u coz i'm not very good in using DSLR, plus i just play with this baby onlylar, not seriously into it)

great camera, the ISO can max to 3200. took some pictures wif ISO 1600 without the speedlite flash, plus the lighting at the place was kinda dim. it came out great, noise level was minimal or none.

if u r above 40 or u have "lou fa". the camera LCD is great. big enough for anyone to view the photos. They also have a function (which i forgot that is same as 1DSMKiii).

there is also 2 RAW formats u can take wif the camera.( i prefer RAW coz u can edit it with photoshop)

liveview? kinda nice feature, but no idea on why is included into this model (maybe it is made for taking pictures of big groups of plp at once)

that's all. overall, the grip and the functions are great. great camera.
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post Sep 18 2007, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE([vogue]angel @ Sep 18 2007, 10:42 AM)
40D? YL brought in just 5 40D'S and they all got sold within hours. my dad bought it.(if u want reviews, i can't give u coz i'm not very good in using DSLR, plus i just play with this baby onlylar, not seriously into it)

great camera, the ISO can max to 3200. took some pictures wif ISO 1600 without the speedlite flash, plus the lighting at the place was kinda dim. it came out great, noise level was minimal or none.

if u r above 40 or u have "lou fa". the camera LCD is great. big enough for anyone to view the photos. They also have a function (which i forgot that is same as 1DSMKiii).

there is also 2 RAW formats u can take wif the camera.( i prefer RAW coz u can edit it with photoshop)

liveview? kinda nice feature, but no idea on why is included into this model (maybe it is made for taking pictures of big groups of plp at once)

that's all. overall, the grip and the functions are great. great camera.
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Oooo..... So you're officially the 1st person here who/whos family owns a 40D. Hope to get more feedback from you regarding the autofocusing.

Got it at YL eh? Issit around RM4150 for it? Japan set is it? sweat.gif
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post Sep 18 2007, 03:22 PM

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AlamakLor: Live View with swivel screen and contrast-detect AF (like digicams)? The Panasonic L10 has it. I honestly believe that is the true Live View champion which people just don't know about. Can't wait for some site to do a Live View shootout.

I got a cheap angle finder. Not the easiest thing to use, still, but easier than not having one at all. Feels like looking down a Twin Lens Reflex.

But but but it was a Canon 24-105mm F4L IS USM! The 1D MkIII took a popularity hit because it wasn't so good with AF as the 1D MkII was.
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made in Japan, but YL import from CHINA. Manual all in chinese, (kinda sucky if u are chinese illiterate)
bout the auto focusing? let me play wif this thing first, then i try to tell ulah( i'm not good at telling)
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Sep 17 2007, 08:16 PM)
When there's new feature, people will always try to make use of it laugh.gif I don't even know what's the point of having live view without flipping lcd. If you want to shoot flat down on the ground, use an angled finder.

@albnok
you mean the 40D was back-focusing? it's canon nia, why am I not surprised. But I believe it has more to do with the lens than the body, canon is notorious with their lens focusing issue and QC. Besides, f4 isn't really gonna cut it indoor.
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the point of using live view without flipping LCD is to check focus when shooting macro more accuracy smile.gif
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