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post Aug 27 2007, 04:43 PM

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The last pic would be an HDMI cable. It's used to connect your HDMI devices like DVD, 360 Elite, PS3, HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, etc. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 27 2007, 11:32 PM

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actually the only thing u really need to know the real diff between LCD tv and LCD computers are the bit rates and how many million of colors thy can churn out. dell hv lower 6bits compared to most LCD tv with 8bit. its about 300,000 diff in color visuals. go wiki it. tats why LCD tv can give out better color production. like is said. budget, view space, and how big u going to go and purpose. lets say u got a 40 inch with sucky sound system?? i rather go for an average lcd size with superb sound system. since u can already get 5.1 optical for about 1.5k
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post Aug 28 2007, 12:37 AM

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seems like I can't own the best out of the budget that I have. So the best I could get maybe 1080p LCD monitor? Will that be more than enough ? or is there any better options?


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post Aug 28 2007, 08:15 AM

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eh not really la...
a Dell 24" LCD monitor will be around RM2300...

but in US i don think they are selling at that range of USD lo...
only USD 700 wat... they earn that in a week... smile.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 28 2007, 08:15 AM)
eh not really la...
a Dell 24" LCD monitor will be around RM2300...

but in US i don think they are selling at that range of USD lo...
only USD 700 wat... they earn that in a week...  smile.gif
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erm the dell 24in monitor is <>RM1800. the BenQ 24in monitor with HDMI is $2199 in Low yat smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(derred @ Aug 28 2007, 12:37 AM)
@ruztynail

seems like I can't own the best out of the budget that I have. So the best I could get maybe 1080p LCD monitor? Will that be more than enough ? or is there any better options?
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LOL.. i think u greatly missunderstood wat i had to say so far.

yes the DELL 24 inch and beyond for LCD monitors or any other brand has the capabilities to go 1080p. but wats the point. its jus the same as 720p unless u sit so close to the monitor, armed with a magnifing glass and compare that with a 720p only would u notice the dif.. heck maybe u wouldnt see anytin tats diff.

let me giv u my "real" example.. say i am poor, underbudget to buy any LCD beyond 1k.. so i aimed for a 22" which is about rm800.. why should i go for 24" which can churn out 1080p whn i hv to fork out more thn twice the amount!?!? whn the extra 2" cause visualization shouldnt really be a problem here.

the only reason i can see here worth comparing 22 to 24 is the connectivity. u get additional ports like hdmi instead of only dvi and vga. i dunno if the 24" has 8bit or 6bit. didnt really research on it. i rather hv two 22" haha rather thn jus one 24"...

another reason is. the huge leap in pricing whn u jus go frm 32" to 40". boils down to pricing and if its worth it paying "tat" additional amount.

understand so far? or have i lost u?


Added on August 28, 2007, 3:20 pm
QUOTE(g5sim @ Aug 28 2007, 11:35 AM)
erm the dell 24in monitor is <>RM1800. the BenQ 24in monitor with HDMI is $2199 in Low yat smile.gif
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eh 24" dell is going for rm 2299 on their website.. can u provide the link for rm1800?? u talking about lowyat as in plaza lowyat? or u talking about the forum??

even if u go staff price.. i dont think dell would allow such a loophole unless its 2nd hand or no 3 years warranty.

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ya lo y so cheap??? hmm you steal it out??? without warranty...

Well if you ask me to fork out that RM2.1k i better buy LCD TV...
which is not far away from that kinda $$$$...
LCD TV i can enjoy a lots of things... smile.gif
DVD, Astro, Computer & also next gen consoles...
where as LCD Monitor only give you nice pic if you have high resolution Graphics card for computer...
then Next gen consoles... 2 only nia...
BTW if you don use the LCD in native resolution... you are wasting ur $$$...
Cos you can really see the difference with native and non-native display...
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post Aug 28 2007, 07:45 PM

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The RM1800 price has been taken away already! It was 2 months ago when they put the price RM1800 for that Monitor!

For current pricing of LCD TV, it is a wise choice to go for them too since onli RM2599 also can get a 32". the time i brought mine those TV was still selling above RM3000++

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post Aug 29 2007, 03:38 AM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Aug 28 2007, 02:12 AM)
LOL.. i think u greatly missunderstood wat i had to say so far. 

yes the DELL 24 inch and beyond for LCD monitors or any other brand has the capabilities to go 1080p. but wats the point. its jus the same as 720p unless u sit so close to the monitor, armed with a magnifing glass and compare that with a 720p only would u notice the dif.. heck maybe u wouldnt see anytin tats diff.

let me giv u my "real" example.. say i am poor, underbudget to buy any LCD beyond 1k.. so i aimed for a 22" which is about rm800.. why should i go for 24" which can churn out 1080p whn i hv to fork out more thn twice the amount!?!? whn  the extra 2" cause visualization shouldnt really be a problem here.

the only reason i can see here worth comparing 22 to 24 is the connectivity. u get additional ports like hdmi instead of only dvi and vga. i dunno if the 24" has 8bit or 6bit. didnt really research on it. i rather hv two 22" haha rather thn jus one 24"... 

another reason is. the huge leap in pricing whn u jus go frm 32" to 40". boils down to pricing and if its worth it paying "tat" additional amount.

understand so far? or have i lost u?


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eh 24" dell is going for rm 2299 on their website.. can u provide the link for rm1800?? u talking about lowyat as in plaza lowyat? or u talking about the forum??

even if u go staff price.. i dont think dell would allow such a loophole unless its 2nd hand or no 3 years warranty.
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I see. Thanks for correcting me. I am good for now. I like the idea that u mention 2 of 22" hurm how will that looks like for gaming? Halo 3 multiplayer 2 player each player on one screen ? possible ? Damn then I dont understand why they advertise 1080p Full HD for on monitors now. It's pretty hot (advertisement) here. 40" is too big for me, even if I have the money. I have no room left to put it in my house. Want it or not, still have to choose monitor. sigh.

So I dont even need to choose between the 3 monitors I posted? Just take Dell? any good suggestion? I never knew choosing a monitor is this tough..
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 28 2007, 03:46 PM)
ya lo y so cheap??? hmm you steal it out??? without warranty...

Well if you ask me to fork out that RM2.1k i better buy LCD TV...
which is not far away from that kinda $$$$...
LCD TV i can enjoy a lots of things...  smile.gif
DVD, Astro, Computer & also next gen consoles...
where as LCD Monitor only give you nice pic if you have high resolution Graphics card for computer...
then Next gen consoles... 2 only nia...
BTW if you don use the LCD in native resolution... you are wasting ur $$$...
Cos you can really see the difference with native and non-native display...
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that was Dell's official price few months back inclusive of delivery some more. anyhow i would not pay more than RM1800 for that panel anyway. ACER's 24in monitor with same resolution is RM17**. and Again, a shop in Low yat is selling the benq with HDMI and with picture enhancing softwares previously exclusive to benq LCD TVs such as Senseye. Summore i think they are giving away a FREE DVD player with the purchase too. i think the shop is same floor as All IT mall - just infront of it i think tongue.gif ..
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ok... hmmm so BenQ can support DVD playing la???
how about Astro enhancement??
if they don have then i can really watch TV by using that...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 29 2007, 09:25 AM)
ok... hmmm so BenQ can support DVD playing la???
how about Astro enhancement??
if they don have then i can really watch TV by using that...
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the benq 24in LCD can support Component video, S-Video, HDMI, DVI and VGA that is all the video input that we can get our hands on.


BenQ FP241W Z RM1,899* Lowyat price


Input Signals = D-Sub/DVI-D/S-Video/Composite/ component /HDMI


Features Exclusive PerfectMotion Technology Full HD Format Support: HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface)
1920 x 1200 (WUXGA) resolution
Full display of two A4-size windows
PIP (Picture in Picture) function
USB ports*3

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FP241VW RM2199 Low Yat price:


http://www.benq.com.my/products/LCD/?product=997

Features =

Exclusive PerfectMotion Technology
Exclusive Senseye+game mode
Full HD Format Support: HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface)
1920 x 1200 (WUXGA) resolution
Full display of two A4-size windows
PIP (Picture in Picture) function
USB ports*2

Input Signals = D-Sub/DVI-D/S-Video/Composite/ component /HDMI

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BenQ FP241VW - THE ULTIMATE GAMING LCD MONITOR

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This product complies with ENERGY STAR(R) Program Requirements for Computer Monitors. Version 4.0.

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that last one impressed me. But I have to admit I am quite skeptical towards BenQ. So please influence me fairly.
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QUOTE(derred @ Aug 29 2007, 11:35 AM)
that last one impressed me. But I have to admit I am quite skeptical towards BenQ. So please influence me fairly.
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i would say that BenQ is the best value for money as compared to the rest of the 24in lcd monitors. and to top that off, the shop is giving away a free dvd player with that purchase tongue.gif please feel free to go to the shop to feel, view and hear for the own hands, eyes and ears. no strings attach . you cant find anything better value than that.

higher than 1080p. HDMI for standard DVD upconvert to full 1080p HD via capable HDMI enable DVD players. You can connect two DVD players, Xbox 360, PS3 and your computer ALL AT THE SAME TIME to this baby. with Xbox 360 and ps3 letting you enjoy FULL HD of 1080p. all this for RM2199 and a free DVD player. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Aug 28 2007, 11:09 PM)
i would say that BenQ is the best value for money as compared to the rest of the 24in lcd monitors. and to top that off, the shop is giving away a free dvd player with that purchase  tongue.gif  please feel free to go to the shop to feel, view and hear for the own hands, eyes and ears. no strings attach . you cant find anything better value than that.

higher than 1080p. HDMI for standard DVD upconvert to full 1080p HD via capable HDMI enable DVD players. You can connect two DVD players, Xbox 360, PS3 and your computer ALL AT THE SAME TIME to this baby. with Xbox 360 and ps3 letting you enjoy FULL HD of 1080p. all this for RM2199 and a free DVD player. tongue.gif
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I wish I can go to the shop, but I can't.
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post Aug 29 2007, 02:14 PM

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which shop are we talking bout here..?
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BenQ currently do develop some awesome Monitor!
But for ur case i dunno u US there got BenQ stuff for sale or not? Even in Malaysia not all shop are selling BenQ Monitor!
Even if u get a monitor from BenQ do u get the support or service?
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QUOTE(300078 @ Aug 29 2007, 01:42 AM)
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BenQ currently do develop some awesome Monitor!
But for ur case i dunno u US there got BenQ stuff for sale or not? Even in Malaysia not all shop are selling BenQ Monitor!
Even if u get a monitor from BenQ do u get the support or service?
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There are BenQs here in the US. US is too big to cover by shops; they do have big boxes like Wal-Mart, Best Buy etc but if we are talking about the US's "lowyat", then it either newegg, tigerdirect etc.

Best Buy don't carry everything and sometimes their warranty is not covered by them, they will ask to contact manufacturer directly. I exp once with my printer and it sucks. Newegg however is impressive; they shipped in 2 days even with the cheapest shipping and if the item is dead out of the box, they will ship a brand new one.

Back to the topic, I can see how famous is BenQ (monitor) and some good reviews about it. I wonder why ViewSonic is not as impressive as BenQ.
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Then if US there got BenQ Monitor for sale just go for it then!!!
Their HDMI plug in for the monitor really pawn all the other brand! And by the way i dun like View Sonic and Samsung Monitor!!!


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