Hi can u guys who hav wish or stream at home giv me some idea bout wat is the diff between both of the car ? like what is the price now and which car is better in performance and space.... i heard some of the stream owner told me tat Honda Stream is very powerful and fuel consumption is low he told me tat he can feel the instance power when he press on the padel... the car jus boost up quickly ..... BUT i also found out tat other forumer discussed bout Stream... they say they totally disappointed in it because when they press on the peddel its like not powerful...... and when they drive over those rocky road... the whole car shake like hell

so i found out tat 10 forumer .... 7 of them prefer Toyota Wish.... some of the reason is like " I jus dun like Honda" and most of them say after they tested the Wish.... the bought it on the very same day issit really tat good ??





This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Aug 19 2007, 06:58 PM

not really good about cars..but..for the look..i'll go for toyota wish..not that i hate honda or anything..

wish looks more sporty for me..
and you can get a recond one at a cheaper price.
plus, stream's design looks old =_=

I drove a Stream with 5 passengers. And I felt it's underpower. And FC so-so only.

Never driven a Wish b4.

But Wish is better looking that's for sure.

Stream got a third row aircond blower wish dun hv....

caldina

Go for wish... Look more classy... More space too...

If for me, I would prefer Caldina for its sporty and aggressive look.

stream prefacelift model is around 80k++ while wish if not mistaken both prefacelift and the facelift model is more den 100k...

Because wish got more second hand value... If compare to stream...

ya all of the things u guys talk is very true... which i also got the same answer from a car audio shop boss.... he say wish is more worth interms of resell value.... nicer looking....

mizandude : yes.... stream has 3rd row air vent... which WISH dun hav... thats the oni downside if comparing WISH with STREAM ... they say the back will get warm when the weather is hot

but anyone here know wat is the recon price and second hand price ?

a 03 - 04 model would cost u around 120k - 130k... and 05 and above will easily cost u more den 140k.... a new wish from umwt is only cost u 170k with all the goodies are stripe-off which means no HID no LCD screen and not black rear window...

I have a Wish from Naza, not UMW. It's 1.8 and has the same engine with Altis, slower pickup but then good fuel consumption. One tank can go up to 600 - 700km. But slack part is the last seats dont have aircond so its hot for people who sit in the back and bumpy a bit.

if comparing those 2
WISH
else alternative
Caldina

Hmm, if in 2006, I will vote for WIsh!!

If in 2008, I will vote for Stream!

Go check out the new stream in the sg website. It looks better than odysssey!!!

Since people are introducing Odyssey and Caldina... how about Mazda 5? Any good?

may i know how much u got urs ? 600- 700 km is alot .... how much is full tank ?? RM 100 ?

i wish i can find one for about RM 100k or less........ second hand or recon i dun mind.... as long as its stil new

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Added on August 20, 2007, 9:35 amthose car are more expensive than WISH rite ?? dun hav tat much budget.... hope can get around 100k one

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Added on August 20, 2007, 9:36 amgot any diff between those years model ??

This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Aug 20 2007, 09:36 AM

Even for Wish, going through "uneven/rocky road", they car will shake like hell as well.

But hell, i love Wish. Give me a Wish/Alphard.. i'll die a happy man

so this is the new 2008 Stream.... :think: really hav a better looking front ... more fierce but i stil dun like the brake light at the rear.... but i stil prefer old Toyota Wish ahhaha

This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Aug 20 2007, 09:46 AM

ok,
toyota wish: more leg space and suitable for tall ppl. but for the the airconditioning not very nice.
honda stream: suitable for family of 4-5 (considering 3 are kids), better airconditioning but less spacious.

i reccomend u get the toyota wish, u can get it from me too. toyota QC is well-known and spare parts are easy to find and considerably cheap too.

This post has been edited by dgrebel: Aug 20 2007, 09:49 AM

I'm driving a J spec 2003 1.8 model wish... it's very entertaining when driving it.. very good handling.. and the most important thing is very good fuel consumption. It comes with original HID.. so not really much thing to mod

i personnaly prefered wish...but i probably go for 2.0...as 1.8 is altis engine which definitely underpower....

i think umw only sell 2.0, 1.8 should be recon from naza

saw it in JB , singaporean car.....bladdy hell...

prefer toyota wish..

ya.. UMW only sell 2.0 thailand version wish... recon either from naza or direct imported... mine was direct imported.. not from naza... still prefer recon version... because it uses D4- engine even on 1.8 .

hmmm... the new Honda Stream look nice too. ANy one know what will be the new price??

Wish 1.8 very good fuel consumption?
I thaught 1.8 is underpower for such a big and heavy car...

for a mpv which jus need more space 2 moving from place to place.. forget about power...

wish got more space than stream.. n i think the design on wish is better...

woh everyone seems to like Wish also like me but now is the price la .... wanna buy one as cheap as possible ... dun mind second hand ....

yes, very good... i mean it... 1 tank oil can run at least 650km.. assuming just 1 person in car. underpower or not is very subjective , i think it's more powerful than CR-V 1st version even it's 1.8 only . because i drove CR-V old version last time, compare with wish... just like driving an sedan car... very fun to drive..

My dad is also looking for recond wish..and we found out that can get 2003 recond at <rm120k..

Caldina passenger space is very small unlike Wish/Stream. you will feel very limited space even if only 4ppl in it. If you looking at family car then definitely not advisable.
But performance wise , else where to get 270Bhp in this kind of cars.

woh RM 120..... can u share with me if u got any news bout the price ? tq

Caldina is not an MPV.... it's a sports wagon. Therefore cannot compare to the space which Wish or Stream has.

saw this once in PJ, singapore plat no. lor...

The new stream seems look nice... Front like oddysey... Not bad..

the newly 2008 stream got two variants rite? 1.8 and 2.0 rite??

Dude..There's a lot..
Try motortrader etc...

get the wish...ive used it for the past 1 year....so what can i say good fuel consumption........good pickup from 100 to 170kmh.......can easily tapau the best spec stream in terms of performance......i beat my buddy in his stream hands down from kl to penang and still had some fuel left to round penang......too bad its just a company car....just returned the car...if it was my own there would and 18inch rims and nice exhaust......so get the wish and you wont regret.....btw the way pls get the 2.0....and the handling is also better than most sedans plus the braking is just amazing just imagine stopping power which is better than the gti........honda nowdays is just alot of hype......

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Added on August 21, 2007, 10:57 pmget the wish...ive used it for the past 1 year....so what can i say good fuel consumption........good pickup from 100 to 170kmh.......can easily tapau th

This post has been edited by jeffblazed: Aug 21 2007, 10:57 PM

the latest Honda Stream reli sexy..but usually i will goes for Toyota Estima.. i like its aeroplane design... i also like WISH cause it looks like tuner car...sporty looks...if wif HID light and dark blue body spray thn reli nice loh...

but.... i m from sarawak kuching

i aslo like wish...but one thing i really dont like which is there isnt much space for boots. How many luggage can u put behind there?
stream? never seen a stream before around...mebbe i didnt notice ler.

i think if u put it at 3rd row as a boots is enough to store quite alot of luggage

Exactly , i always put my 3rd row down as a boots, because i seldom fetch ppl .... and i tried to fit few large luggages in it before.... so should be no problem.

Hmm...Good luck dude..
I guess there must be a recond/used unit at kuching

Just need some effort

I think the Toyota Wish is better eventhough I think Honda cars have more design in them in the interior but the Toyota Wish is also prone to carjacking.

This is very true. Harrier, Wish, Camry & even Vios seems to be preferred by thief or car jacker. Don't know is it Toyota used inferior security system.

my friends owns a car audio system shop his customers always use the back of the car to install audio system.... install PS2 there.... with huge speaker box

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Added on August 22, 2007, 11:47 amtats y... i duno much car dealer here.... and not much forumer from kch here can giv me the price tehy got here......

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Added on August 22, 2007, 11:50 amhaha mayb thief also drool to Wish because more market value ? and easier to sell off hand

This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Aug 22 2007, 11:50 AM

but stream price is more cheaper.......
below 80k can get liao.....

anyone one know FC for stream??

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Added on September 26, 2007, 4:57 pmi mean second hand stream...


This post has been edited by baby blue: Sep 26 2007, 04:57 PM

Belly nice color and design.

i'll go for wish

no one vote for Grandis?

the LED tail lights are enough to kills me OFF ...

but WISH is still one of my dream car now ...

i personally vote for toyota wish BUT if and ONLY IF grandis is not included!
darn grandis is VERY sassy!!

wish for sure....

wad abt caldina?

because the new stream are only launch in singapore.. for malaysia have to wait 2008 ... thats y all the new stream u can see now will sure in sg plate.

same goes for new estima, toyota is launching new estima 2008, for malaysia, have to wait 2008 only launch.. but i already saw once in singapore.. really .. CHIO~... smaller now.. not so big .. but.. looks real nice.. somemore the backdoor is auto open and close 1

This post has been edited by qintian: Sep 29 2007, 10:59 PM

waah..bradder

kaya liao hor?

For power, go for Wish I'm not very sure about UMW service in Kuching but best avoided. You can try getting it from Naza.

My personal preference, Honda Stream

caldina will b d 1st in my list..but if compared to both wish and stream,ill go for wish..very nice design n cool..

ill go for wish also

Toyota Wish (White color)

wish+19" low profile..awesome!!!

19" rims? Power sial.

with black tinting

omg, new stream so cun worr.

Most of these cars, wish, harrier and etc all with black tinting, until now polis didn't do anything ah?

All of them are Datuks?

i guess most of the tintings are stock... not so sure


need to ask some of my friends tho

Stock tinting so black ah?

depend la...tgk nasib...kalau nasib tak baik...kene kantoi JPJ or trafik....bawak masuk balai...they will ask u to peel off by ur own hand

CBU Wish and other imported vehicle comes with black glass (the glass itself, not tint)

wish, caldina and other CBU cars have dark glass for rear passengers only
front passenger and windscreen don't have

Great, so the thread reactivated again by today. Hohoho...
Well, actually i'm a fan of Wish.. a dreamer too..
Is there anyone here who owned a Wish?
Cause would like to know how much for the car service cost normally at Toyota Service center.
And also wish to know is the accessories for Wish is expensive? For example the absorber etc. if compared with a normal sedan car.
Insurance definitely not cheap, this i know. Fuel consumption around how many km/l?

Happy New Year to everyone..

i like wish alot.. but since the honda have new stream... take new car bah.. later wish come out new version.. rugi le

Go for the new Stream no doubt. If possible, get the RS version

I'd already saw the new stream on the road, just in front of me. But then, other than the head of the stream which like odysey is nice and new, i still think wish looked nicer ler.. Cause the new stream made me feel that it looked more like a 4WD then a MPV. Sigh..
It's also cheaper than new Wish.. But then.. I still like Wish more. Hohoho..

FYGI, I'm can only afford a 04 Wish. Can't afford the new one which cost RM156k.

the passengers at the back will hate u if u r using the Wish. it's like the kitchen of a mamak, hot like hell.........some of my friends regret buying it, sold it off 1 month after purchase and bought a Stream.........

My opinion lar..

When for test drive a Toyota Wish 2.0 at Toyota showroom..performance not bad ( me and SA) but when 7 peoples in the car, need to press more fuel . Wish was very common on the road nowadays ( i'm not sure 1st hand or recon cars). Imported recon wish have reverse camera and UMW wish don't have..Recon set of course cheaper than a new car

About honda stream?? not sure yet coz haven't sit, drive or seen on the road


Just my 2cents

Most of the cars or any vehicles for sure will required more fuel to move the vehicles if the number of peoples inside is getting more and more. This we can't skipped.

As i mentioned earlier, Wish only weakness is the aircon can't really reach the last row even with the so called aircon booster highlighted in the Toyota site.
other than that, it's still stylish. Of caused in this case don't talk about the new look of new Stream lar.

Bad news is the main point is i won't have the budget of more than 120k also. That's like holding my neck while walking. So can count the new Wish and the new Stream out. As i could only afford a 2nd hand / recon Wish. Old stream which is much cheaper need not to consider.

somemore new car got warranty... think properly lo..

Hahaha... Lagi i know, but what can do, my economy can't go for new one.
At first i also thought about Civic somemore, it's price almost same. But then considering on fetching people more than 6 then headache already.

If the new Stream is around 120k how nice. Then i no need consider so much already. Haha..

buy the new grand livina lo...

Nissan meh? Don want lah. Nissan's value is not high. It dropped very fast.
My FIL's Nissan Sentra now totally no price already.

hmm.. take the toyota innova then

Madza 5 is not ur option???

Innova is like a bigger Unser or Avanza. Rather take Civic than a 4WD lookalike MPV.

Mazda 5 looked not bad. But then, still it's over 120k lar, bro. In addition is i know Honda and Toyota are famous in less fuel consumption. At least that's what i found out about Honda City, Civic, Wish and VIOS. Other models i didn't researched much on it.

Never mind, i guess not much option also since the budget is fixed.

But if anyone who is a Wish owner, do tell me the standard mileage service charges, fuel consumption (?km/l), Wish accessories part's price etc.
Need to know it before i get the Wish. Much appreciate. Thx.

Cheap & affordable 7 to 8 seater car = Avanza 1.5G Since u can skip press more fuel i think this car more reliable than wish or stream

To be honest, i test sit in avanza before. Like the same phrase mentioned by others earlier, passenger from the last seat will hate the driver or owner too as the last row is more suitable for children. Adult wise, i guess it's ok if they don't mind to be like sardin in their tin especially for hourly ride to outstation. Hohoho.. For me Avanza is more comfortable for only 5 compare to 7.

No offend, it's just my 2 cent.

you sure more reliable?
when you drive at 110kmph at highway, you'll feel like the car want to buang

My 1.8l Wish is from Naza, bought it years before UMW sold them. I change my oil every 10-15k km, using fully synthetic costing maybe RM230 or so. The recommended service interval is 15k km (label on hood in Japanese). Fuel consumption when driving mostly on highway averaging 120km/h can reach as high as 16km/l but for average driving of 60% highway it's around 12-14km/l

This post has been edited by tishaban: Jan 4 2008, 04:55 PM

i drove a 2.0litre CBU wish before
even toll is more expensive than petrol (from kl to northern johor)
really save petrol

(Out of topic)
Taikor, Avanza less Rm100k ...wat do u expect and want more ??
buang out ? put anti-roll bar or change suspension..

No offence

Wow.. Guess what, your 16km/l or even 14km/l is almost double of my Wira fuel consumption which is around average 8km/l. Now i gained one supportive point which shows my reseach info is correct. Refer to the comparison, I believe Wish will definitely more preferable than Wira right?
But tishaban, so far have you required to change any part of the Wish yet due to spoiled or whatever? Got people tell me that Wish part is expensive and advised me not to take it. What do you as a actual user think? And is the last row really that hot?

andyjyneo, that's another thing i wish to know. Is the toll for Wish / MPV similar as car's toll or simply higher abit?

Thanks guys, I finally got some information i want.

but i saw you mentioned more reliable than stream and wish
that's why i would like to hear your clarification on how avanza is more reliable than stream and wish

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This post has been edited by andyjyneo: Jan 4 2008, 10:23 PM

Wooo... not bad not bad.. means now only thing left that i need to know is the part / accessories of Wish only. Whether they are really expensive like my friend said or it is just like normal Toyota models and Honda model's part which is like standard car price and can be obtained easily.

exactly
wish 2.0 CBU is really worth it, i must say
but stream isn't that bad
new model is really cool

so which one u choose?.. if stream got 2.0.. sure stream la

ya, that's right
even now, HM doesn't import RS-Z version
still, i don't mind the 1.8 with civic 1.8 engine in it
stream is sporty and cheap
if i've one, i'll make it to be the first mugen stream in malaysia
hahahaha