Best ringgit to displacement ratio ever...!!

Beats the pants off the Benelli 752s.

Me, I don't like the ekor kontot tho...

How the f**k do I post up Youtube videos without LYN fucking it up? The forum's stupid YOUTUBE tag doesn't work.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBO6MR6CaXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URU41kDzpVI

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Aug 30 2021, 02:48 PM

OK, this is a deal-breaker for me. I'm 169cm.

The seat height is one thing, but it's also wide. The seat padding is already thin, there's nothing left to shave off to reduce the height.




This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Sep 6 2021, 03:06 PM

I can manage tall bikes if riding solo. There are techniques for that. Problem starts when I add a pillion & luggage. I don't comfortable sliding my ass off the seat to put only 1 foot on the ground when she mounts the bike.

Kalau naik sorang, jatuh bodoh takpe... kalau naik 2 orang jatuh bodoh, habis la bini mengamuk... fobia aku...

There is no guide on Youtube on how to manage tall bikes when riding with pillion & full luggage. Semuanya solo.

Benelli finally catches up with CFMoto. From Paultan.com:


2022 Benelli TRK 800 launched, joins TRK 502 and 251
In Benelli, Bikes, International Bike News / By Mohan K Ramanujam / 16 December 2021 4:53 pm / 0 comments


Joining Benelli’s adventure-touring motorcycle lineup is the 2022 Benelli TRK 800. As per the Benelli TRK 502 (RM30,621 in Malaysia) and TRK 251 (RM13,888 in Malaysia), the TRK 800 shares the same adventure-tourer styling popular amongst Malaysian riders with obligatory spoked wheels and beaked nose.

Power for the TRK 800 comes from a parallel-twin mill displacing 754 cc with liquid-cooling and dual overhead cams with six-speed gearbox, assist and slipper clutch and chain final drive. With a claimed power figure of 76.2 hp at 8,500 rpm and 67 Nm of torque at 6,500 rpm, this engine is also used in the Leoncino 800 and Leoncino Trail 800.

As suits the nature of the TRK 800, it comes equipped with long travel suspension, 170 mm in front with a 50 mm diameter Marzocchi fork, fully-adjustable for preload, compression and rebound. Meanwhile the fully-adjustable monoshock at the back gives 171 mm of travel.

Rounding the list of equipment for the TRK 800 are hand deflectors, engine sump guard as well as manual adjustable windshield. The TRK 800 rolls on a 19-inch alloy spoked wheel in front and a 17-inch hoop in the rear, shod in 110/80 and 150/70 tyres.

Braking is done with Brembo, using twin 320 mm discs on the front wheel with four-piston callipers and a single 260 mm disc at the back with single-piston calliper. Necessary information is displayed on a 7-inch TFT-lCD screen with 21-liters of fuel carried in the tank while the overall weight of the TRK 800 without accessories is 214 kg.





This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Dec 18 2021, 10:00 AM

We were out buying fish in Pantai Remis today when we decided to pop over at GC Ann to check out this bike in the flesh.

Wahhh... quite surprising, man. It's pretty well built, interestingly designed, quite light & pretty fukkin cheap at RM29.2k OTR (1st pty insurance) cash.

That shit about beating the Leoncino? Pretty damn true - you won't find nasty welds anywhere & the unseen innards under the seat scream quality. No wonder the Leoncino now sells for a hell lot less than before.

Gonna go for a test ride next weekend.

Wife likes it better than the SV650, despite the inconvenience of the ekor kontot and the 180-deg parallel twin config.

I owned a China tongsan TNT600 as my daily driver for 4-5 years, and found it to be reliable.

It was a used 1st batch model summore, that was left to languish under the kampong house after only 1 year of use. Mice made a nest in the airbox. Despite that, I got me to work & back just fine. So I have no reason to doubt Chinese big bikes.

The shocker is with the Dominar, which I bought brand new and rode only occasionally but had to suffer 4 warranty claims & failures unheard of even on my China tongsan bike (fork seals, fork stanchions, ignition coil, brake master cylinder, ABS unit).

SV650 costs RM10k more than the 700 CL-X, which weighs heavily against it coz we intend to buy in cash. At any rate, the CFmoto HQ is in Setapak near where we live.

My wife needs to rack up riding hours and miles before she gets the Honda CBR650R she's been lusting after. The original plan was for her to do it on my Dominar, but now the priority is to fukkin get rid of it before it initiates the need for a 5th warranty claim (and warranty runs out end Feb) she needs a >400cc replacement for the time being.

TLDR:

Yes we're willing to chance it coz my own experience on my previous Benelli TNT600 had been very positive, unlike my D400.

Saw the review by WuGe from that 摩托志 channel.

Seems like the engine has a Jeckyl-and-Hyde personality - he said it's meek and mild below 6000RPM then it takes off like a monster. The other thing is that there's some kind of lag in the fuelling due to the ride-by-wire system, the throttle response wasn't as crisp and instant as he expected.

I'll have to check this out myself when I test ride the thing next weekend.

The lower spec one tak masuk ke?

RM53.8k is not too far off from the Tiger 850 at RM59k.

GC Ann in Kuala Selangor has now received stock of the new 800MT. But no test rides.

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Rugged looks lor.

Technically spoked rims do not add to the height per se, as it is the diameter of the rim that does. So no diff between a 19" spoked rim vs a 19" alloy rim typical of road-biased adv bikes, if using the same 80-series rubber (as is the case with the 800MT).

If got 21" spoked rim instead, memang tinggilah sikit vs a 19" alloy rim (alloy rims don't exist in 21" as this is a size exclusively reserved for off-road biased bikes).

From the pics above the spoked rim option appears to be in 19" at the front (just like the rim on the V-strom 650). To give you a size comparison, the rear is 17".

The two base flavours both run a 19" + 17" combo, the diff is that the Sport version features alloy rims while the Touring version has spoked rims.

The newer Sport R version runs 17" on both ends.


https://amcn.com.au/editorial/cfmoto-800mt-touring/

The traditional spoked rim uses a tube because where the spokes attach to the rim cannot be made airtight.

But newer designs maintain an airtight rim by having the spokes attach to a raised spine in the middle or to the outer edges of the rim, allowing the use of a tubeless tyre. The increased complexity of this design also means a slightly higher unsprung weight.

See that raised ridge or spine where the spokes attach to the rim?

That's a tubeless spoked wheel design.




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GS Cycle too have received their stock, it seems.

Running on Maxxis Maxx Venture MA1 rubbers, which are an obscure model of tyres not available off the shelf (unlike the Maxx Venture MA-ADV). Probably a factory model specially made to a budget for CFMoto. If that's true, these usually won't last very long.

RM53,800 according to GS Cycle's ad on Mudah. Decidedly not cheap for a Chinese bike, but then somewhat of a bargain for something that leverages a popular and successful KTM design. Bob the GS Cycle salesman whom I bought the 700 CL-X from says they received tons of bookings already even before the actual bike showed up this week. For the life of me I can't imagine how people could throw cash at something they haven't even seen yet in the flesh...

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At around the 800MT's RM54k price point, well I know I paid RM59k for my Tiger 850. The other continental contenders ie. BMWF850GS, KTM890 forget it as they all cost hella more.

For other cheaper options, you'll hv to step down to the 650cc - 750cc category. The 750cc QJ SRT800 is RM40k, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if they're going to launch its Benelli equivalent the TRK800 here - same bike, diff plastics. But you'll have to give up that stonkin' KTM LC8C engine to save RM15k.

Then you have the 650cc Moto Morini X-Cape at the exact price point also. Plus the venerable old-timer Suzuki V-Strom 650, whose parallel twin replacement is coming but don't count on it being priced below RM60k when it lands here. Ditto the new Honda Transalp.

Beyond all that, you can also look at 17"-wheeled on-road tourers, such as the CFMoto MT650 (budget end), Triumph Tiger 660 (mid level), Yamaha Tracer 900GT (upper end).

One thing for sure tho, there are a hell lot more choices now than ever before.

The Tiger 850 IMHO is an entry-level model done right. Triumph deleted just the right bits to bring the cost down and surprisingly kept almost all of the best parts. Even the horsepower & torque numbers were reduced on paper only to differentiate it, as below 7500RPM where 99% of the riding is done they feel no different than the full-blooded Tiger 900.

I can totally understand why CFmoto priced the 800MT at >RM50k -- the company's partnership with KTM (CFmoto actually manufactures KTM engines in China) and the bike's KTM 790 roots are a solid differentiating factor that they should capitalize on in terms of pricing.

Although I have yet to swing a leg over the 800MT, I suspect the difference in weight alone will highlight Triumph's long-standing expertise in designing ADVs. Reviewers have strangely reported the LC8C's high revving nature which CFmoto responded to by lowering the gear ratio to keep the torque up at lower RPMs, resulting in relatively high fuel consumption at highway speeds. I have no experience with the 800MT to comment, although I can say I seldom had the need to rev past 7000RPM on my 850 and it makes 90% of its max torque from as low as just under 3000RPM.

CFmoto 700MT kambing. Instead of a scaled-down 800MT, it's a scaled-up 650MT with the engine from the 700 CLX.




CFMOTO 700MT ADDS MIDDLE OPTION TO CHINESE BRAND'S TOURING RANGE
The CFMoto 700MT is the latest addition to the Chinese manufacturer's touring range, with almost 70 horsepower from its 693cc engine.


The CFMoto 700MT has arrived as the middle ground model in the Chinese brand’s touring range, using an engine that it has utilised in the past.

CFMoto’s partnership with KTM continues to grow, and, on the face of it, this is shown in the engine of the new CFMoto 700MT.

693cc with 55kW (66hp) sounds similar to the engine used in the KTM 690 SMC R and KTM 690 Enduro R. However, there is a fairly significant difference between the KTM unit and that used in the CFMoto 700MT, that being the number of cylinders: one for the KTM, two for the CFMoto.

Instead, the CFMoto's engine comes from Kawasaki, and is the same unit used in the CFMoto 700CL-X Heritage, derived from the motor used in Kawasaki's Z650 and ER-6F. For both the CL-X and 700MT, CFMoto lengthens the stroke to increase the capacity from 650cc to 693cc. 66hp and 60Nm are the result.

That means the 700MT is slightly down compared to the similarly sized Yamaha Tracer 7 and Suzuki V-Strom 650, and also not a huge increase over its own smaller sibling, the 650MT, which produces 60hp and 56Nm. The 700MT’s 18-litre fuel tank is larger than the Tracer 7’s 17-litre tank, but two litres smaller than that of the V-Strom 650.

A chromoly-steel frame helps keep the weight to 218kg, the same as the aforementioned 650MT, while wheel travel on the 700MT is 140mm at the front, thanks to 43mm USD forks, and 45mm at the rear courtesy of the single shock absorber.

Pirelli is called on for tyres, providing a 120/70 ZR17 at the front and a 160/60 ZR17 at the rear.

The CFMoto 700MT is also equipped with a five-inch TFT display, USB-A and USB-B sockets, standard ABS, and LED headlights.

Available in two colours - Nebula White and Nebula Black - the CFMoto 700MT is priced at £6,699 and will be available from authorised UK dealers in mid-July 2023.