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TSwebster
post Aug 18 2007, 08:42 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi guys, please give me some comment on the question...
thx a lot
greyPJ
post Aug 18 2007, 08:46 PM

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post Aug 18 2007, 09:07 PM

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IS is only to compensate your handshake while holding the camera upto 4 stops
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post Aug 18 2007, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Aug 18 2007, 08:46 PM)
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Aug 18 2007, 09:07 PM)
IS is only to compensate your handshake while holding the camera upto 4 stops
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however, is it crucial?

check this out http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=21607673

from this comparison, it looks like IS does a lot better than having a better IQ
a630 has 1/1.8 while a710IS has a 1/2.5

hmm.gif still wondering IS or not


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post Aug 18 2007, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(webster @ Aug 18 2007, 09:20 PM)
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however, is it crucial?

check this out  http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=21607673

from this comparison, it looks like IS does a lot better than having a better IQ
a630 has 1/1.8 while a710IS has a 1/2.5

hmm.gif  still wondering IS or not
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IMHO, IS helps a lot.

Some may say, must be skill and have steady hands to get good shots.

However, I disagree because it's the photo that matters. As long if the outcome of the photo is good then we should be happy. rclxm9.gif

IS may possibly help save the best shot in your lifetime. icon_rolleyes.gif

In my opinion, just get a cam with IS. icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 19 2007, 08:58 AM

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I own the S5Is. But I think better ISO quality much better then IS. Eg, Fuji F31fd

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post Aug 19 2007, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Aug 19 2007, 08:58 AM)
I own the S5Is. But I think better ISO quality much better then IS. Eg, Fuji F31fd
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I would have preferred both. hehe
I would have to admit that higher ISO allows you to stop down further in a not-so-bright condition. But if you want to shoot macro or insect, or you intend to do a heavy crop, IS will be better because no matter how good the sensor is (even under ISO80 for S3IS), heavy crop under high ISO will be noisy.
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post Aug 19 2007, 09:44 AM

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IS isnt crucial for still pic but absolutely a must for taking video.

yes for taking pic IS helps alot but i can do without it.
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post Aug 19 2007, 10:38 AM

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Could any1 show what's the best pic so far taken with IS?

How great photographers of the past do without IS?
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post Aug 19 2007, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Aug 19 2007, 10:38 AM)
Could any1 show what's the best pic so far taken with IS?

How great photographers of the past do without IS?
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Without IS? Use tripod loh.

1/10 sec. Hand held. Couldn't have done it without IS.

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post Aug 19 2007, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Aug 19 2007, 11:03 AM)
Without IS? Use tripod loh.

1/10 sec. Hand held. Couldn't have done it without IS.
1/10s no need IS la, sap sap water.

i can easily get a sharp pic with lumix tz1 OIS at 1 sec, the longest is 1.5sec handhold, 1.5sec is abit hard tho.
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without IS fuji f20 the slowest SS is 1/4s handhold:
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both pic 100% crop, check the exif.
fuji without IS i can easily get sharp pics by using the burst mode, hold the camera steadily take 3 pics in a row, at least 1 or 2 is sharp.
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post Aug 19 2007, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(NasiLemakMan @ Aug 19 2007, 10:38 AM)
Could any1 show what's the best pic so far taken with IS?

How great photographers of the past do without IS?
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The best pic with IS is not better than the best pic without IS.
When shutter speed is fast enough, then the limiting factors are the lenses, imaging sensor, and other techniques.

But, without IS, it is very difficult get even acceptable (ie. free from handshake blur) pics at slow shutter speeds handheld.

So, IS doesn't make your best picts.. betterer.
But you get more good and acceptable pics. Something like lowering the passing grade of a test so that more students pass that exam...


Added on August 19, 2007, 12:10 pm
QUOTE(greyPJ @ Aug 19 2007, 11:30 AM)
fuji without IS i can easily get sharp pics by using the burst mode, hold the camera steadily take 3 pics in a row, at least 1 or 2 is sharp.
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I MUST have your hands..!!
But for the rest of us, IS is the 'crutch'.

This post has been edited by cjtune: Aug 19 2007, 12:12 PM
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post Aug 19 2007, 12:34 PM

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D@mn... I'm old. 1/10 without IS? I can hardly do 1/30 without IS. LOL
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post Aug 19 2007, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(cjtune @ Aug 19 2007, 12:09 PM)
I MUST have your hands..!!
But for the rest of us, IS is the 'crutch'.
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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Aug 19 2007, 12:34 PM)
D@mn... I'm old. 1/10 without IS? I can hardly do 1/30 without IS. LOL
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disclaimer: thats is without zoom.


at full zoom (focal length:438mm) with my tz1 at x10 optical zoom, i just tried the slowest i can do is around 1/10s.

iso200, 1/10s, 438mm.
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post Aug 19 2007, 01:18 PM

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Try taking macro without IS and you'll know how difficult it is. As well as when in high zoom.
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post Aug 19 2007, 01:22 PM

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At any rate, GreyPJ has just shown he is an exceptional person when it comes to hand-holding steadiness. Even the 1/10s shot at 438mm focal length shot is unbelievably steady!!

But, again, unless you believe you are the exception, IS will seriously help you. More so after a long photography session holding heavy camera gear or if you are the type that likes to drink coffee. Don't even mention Parkinson's disease... biggrin.gif

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post Aug 19 2007, 01:24 PM

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Urrgh.. After looking at GreyPJ's photo, I start to wonder if I have minor Parkinson disease. IS is very very important to me, especially when I'm taking pictures indoor.
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post Aug 19 2007, 01:53 PM

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no no guys, i think everyone can do it, my secret is using the burst mode, (hold the camera steadily, press the shuttur button down and take a series of pics consecutively) for that max zoom pic i took 5 pics in a row and there are 2 sharp pics, 3 blurry.

had i taken just 1 shot it would be 99.9% blurry, IS wont help.
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post Aug 19 2007, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Aug 19 2007, 01:53 PM)
no no guys, i think everyone can do it, my secret is using the burst mode, (hold the camera steadily, press the shuttur button down and take a series of pics consecutively) for that max zoom pic i took 5 pics in a row and there are 2 sharp pics, 3 blurry.

had i taken just 1 shot it would be 99.9% blurry, IS wont help.
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woah credit to greyPJ for teaching us the technique
tq for all of ur comment
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post Aug 19 2007, 04:08 PM

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It is better using burst mode with IS, right?

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