mafioso

Hyundai Kia rarely seen on the road.

damn futuristic and pretty

but malaysians still rather buy altis with the 'awesome' floating lcd headunit haha

Last time their pricing is acceptable
Now mahal tahap yahudi
Sape mahu beli?

This^^

if the pricing was like before, ok lah

Jap car oso recently increased price especially for d segment but ppl still buy.

Look around u, so many camrys which costs nearly 200k.

Even the new ugly honda accord oso i saw few on the road already.

When ur car is as good as jap cars, u can price it at whatever price n it will still sell.

If a lousy car with a nice design, ppl wont buy .

Its never about price my friend. Even lexus 1m oso got ppl buy. Until today i have only seen 1 kia stinger which is only 300k +.

Conclusion, korean cars are crap to drive. No fundamentals. All money went to designing the exterior and interior.

This post has been edited by kevin23: Nov 18 2020, 06:59 AM

maintenance not cheap?

What was the price before? I doubt it is allowed anymore by our government. Also, they were marketing Elantra as B segment cars instead of C segment. By right, Hyundai B segment should be the Accent models.

that car isn't "new"

it's already released in SK like i don't know..a year already
and yes, the interior is very nice when i 1st saw it, all screen

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 18 2020, 07:26 AM

C segment priced at b segment lah, under 100k

Same like x50....

can already see alot in korean drama lo.

Got audi dna bro..so pricing must polow audi oso la...they hire that guy who designs those big audi grille..

My friend once ever bought the new hyundai x20 with 98k, to his shocking 3 years later the new car offered 62k only.

when i was in SK earlier this year, saw alot of very nice C and D segment car that isn't even seen sold outside
i guess SK people get the perks of driving it 1st before the rest of the world
look at this, they're already driving it(dated back many months ago)



This post has been edited by MR_alien: Nov 18 2020, 07:41 AM

in malaysia

sushi > kimchi

Koreans are proud of their cars, especially Samsung branded ones. LOL

Cantek

Grill looks like a whale shark

the kia and hyundai they're driving are unlike the ones we're driving
they're like few years ahead

when she 1st go see the car, my 1st impression when this car is turn off is it's not very nice at all...it feels weird(somemore have ugly plastic screen protector on)
but when it's turned on, it's very futuristic inside

Malaysians don’t even buy altis these days.

hhhhnnnngggghhhh

if tukar bigger sport rim more hhhnnnggghhh

korean brand muz price 10-15% below the jepunis competitor in local market in order to sell due to market perception.

damn.. design so ugly..

ppl who complain the price, its not really kia fault

gov policy as well as our distributor here greedy

nice car.. but is a Hyundai

ugly..

korea car memang chun!
but design completely change after few years...mane dapat spare parts lama weiii!

new civic looks nicer.

sakit jantung

Expensive crap. All style and no substance, just like kpop.

The speaker dressed too bland. kinda like dragged into the studio for an impromptu presentation while walking outside for a grocery shopping.

defeats the purpose of presenting a sexy car. she do have some nice curves hide inside those blouse and pants tho.

If they do that, they will cut a lot of accessories and the engine will probably a downgraded one. Elantra is supposed to be at least 1.8 and above or with turbo/hybrid. They will probably downgrade the engine to 1.6 or below and this will make the car sluggish compared to others. Even with all those cuts, they will not be able to price 10% to 15% below the B Segments Japanese cars as our government taxes will not allow it because they are CBU cars. Look at the current 2.0 Elantra, they are pricing it less than 100K but people still say Honda City and Toyota Vios are better because they perceive Elantra as B segment cars. Hyundai also won't CKD in Malaysia because of the low demand.

The main reason Korean cars failed in Malaysia is because both Kia and Hyundai were mismanaged by our local distributor. When Forte was launched, it created a lot of buzz but Naza failed to built on Forte's success. Similarly, the previous Elantra was quite successful but Sime Darby core biz is not car distribution and don't even care. Before Sime Darby become the sole distributor for Hyundai, the brand was distributed by a few companies which causes a lot of confusion in the market.

Not targetting kimchi for my next car liao

Jayraptor will validate

inb4 If the LCD screens faulty, you can find the guy with Samsung tshirt come and troubleshoot. kek

y pay almost the same for less reliability? pipul saw elantra kena tow way more than altis dan ketam.

This post has been edited by SinzChan: Nov 18 2020, 09:58 AM

ya agree....
the only Elantra i rikey is Elantra MD

Yep true
Currency value or unrealistic pricing?

maybe msia is the slowest to get

yes

kia cerato facelift launch 2 years until now stuck at port

by the time they release facelift, other countries driving new cerato

really fucuk ppl manage the car brand here

Hnggg falling for the the RIMs ...

i don't think so
look at TS video, those are US media, not malaysia

they just announced it while in SK it's been released like 1-2 years

Namelessone1973 is right about the failed management and those marketing staff hired apart from failed strategies plus bodo mindset of korean principals. Their mentality failed to follow trend and rules so they failed to compete against Japanese and now Chaina cars.

Poor Korean cars now resorted to calling all those who bought Korean cars previously to go test drive. All the launches were quiet (cricket sound) and very poor sales. Only rely on selling vans now to survive. Korean cars no more CKD so priced higher than Japanese counterparts. Before this sell cheaper then discount over rm10k further can't even sell, now CBU high price confirmed die faster.

Padan muka to both principals & distributors. Last time 2 best strategists came asking for interview, they arrogant when sales doing well (strategies donated partially by the 2 guys) being ungrateful "kacang lupakan kulit" turning them away despite have vacancy for assistant manager and executive for marketing positions for principal hwontai, Keeah and distributor also.

Not stuck at port but keeah principal no confidence to bring in CKD factories. Nazak don't want bring in CBU coz expensive some more Cerato FL just launched 2017 and spent so much on assembly plants already. Sarahan korean introduced new Cerato so fast barely 2 years new car replacement appeared.

Hwontai management said they are killing off elantra in MY to make way for SUV earlier from their another failed planning

We are always late when it comes to Korean cars. The current Elantra was launched in Korea in 2015 and worldwide in 2017. It only came to Malaysia in 2019. The current Kona launched recently in Malaysia was already out in 2017 and other countries are getting the facelift while our recent launch is the pre-facelift version. This is mainly our distributor's failure but I think the are trying to rectify this as the latest Elantra is expected to come to Malaysia in 2021.

the brand run by who in malaysia
u know i know lah

try if being managed by the brand itself

samsung car is renault.. on the road not as much as Kia & Hyundai

Ugly
But daring

36% depreciation sounds ok to me.

bermaz took over kia....
maybe there will be a change?

Samsung cars are mostly rebadge of nissan or Renault. Right?

FC lebih critical in a country that has the lowest fuel cost, go figure!

No resale value and no proven reliability...msians in general are poor that's why.

With all that said, scotty will always recommend Toyotas

Did Bermaz took over Kia?

I thought Bermaz took over Peugeot. Kia is going to be handled by Kia themselves?

No resale value is probably right because most cars in Malaysia got no resale value except Toyota & Honda. Reliability is a perception issue due to the bad reputation of Korean cars in early days of Hyundai and Kia in Malaysia. A lot of people in Malaysia already have the mindset that Korean cars are lower quality than Japanese cars. Those who actually bought a Korean cars in the last 5 years will probably tell a different story.

ar?
i tot peug and kia? only peug now?

Even with Peug, it is not confirmed. Heard, Sime Darby also interested. I spoke to a Kia salesman a few months ago and he already told me Naza will give up Kia and Kia will be handled by the Koreans themselves. Don't know true or not but they were trying very hard to clear their stocks.

Amoi don't care, u drive 4rings punya symbol car, even is breaking dowm 15 years old junk also she naik.

This post has been edited by littlegamer: Nov 18 2020, 10:44 AM

price mahal, spare part also mahal...but yeah, theyre indeed pretty

Just like their plastic surgery practice


Ayyyy

Racism card in this country kills Proton, Perodua and even NAZA. The world is innovating so fast now electric car already. Baoteng still with sohai x50. People still wah high tech.

This post has been edited by Avex: Nov 18 2020, 10:59 AM

even more fucuk is the pricing

they bring in old obsolete model here and price premium like fucuk

civic prototype come with sunkist oren

does perodua do anything extraordinary ?

they just wait for Toyota to provide them nice chassis.

no need to do R&D, just marketing and sell the car.

Heck, if I give you the authority to sell Mercedes here, I guarantee you, you will soon be the next billionaire.
Banks will coming rushing to you to provide financing.

i hope kia handled themselves...
such a lovely car screw by those "uknowiknowwhatkindofworkingculture"

Why you say price mahal? Is the 2019 Hyundai Elantra sold below 100K mahal? It's a C segment car and not B segment. I have driven both Hyundai and Honda before. The genuine parts cost for Honda is not really cheaper than Hyundai. Even the regular service is not much difference. However, if you go for non-genuine parts, then of course Hyundai can't compare with Honda because there are virtually no non-genuine Hyundai parts in Malaysia.

Tell that to Scotty..

Wrong, it is 70% due to new car only 62k. The 3 years 2nd hand suddenly become 30k. 3 years from 98k dropped to 30k, did you ever find the same for T or H?

I see. Your bahasa rempit made me think you wrongly typed new instead of used.

yeyeye kpop car is cool over theres

korea car is going down now..
now china geely fly the way...

grade A++ skinship

if china cars can get the design of korean car + japanese reliabilty
they can absolutely win it

Adik kepada civic god car..

Open competation among car dealers / manufacturers gives consumer best things..

Like wise our country opportunity for business should head this way..

keluarpattern

true bro. totally agree.

Some people still think korean cars not reliable, kek. My previous hyundai getz, 100k+ km and my current 2013 elantra at 220k+ km never broke down even once. Power windows, electronics all still working like day one, dashboard never rattled till this day. Power of cbu unit.

Meanwhile honda topkek ckd quality you all no problem to buy, though fb got tons of complaints about quality and reliability, topkek malaysians.

stupid design mau raba raba peha ppon tak boleh

Hwontai Keeah principals in MY Mutiara D'sara and G-Tower only for show hired failed femaile marketing head that knew nothing about cars. keeah 1 very arrogant. Both had failed marketing execs and assistant manyzer. They would buy Honda Toyota personally, won't buy failed korean brand that they market because they find nothing good about the products they tell people to buy.

Then for distributor, hwontai esdee led by cainis ex-sellman from beemer oto bayern (the very same gang that joined from P1. Nasa since dying sales handed to nasa pijot head overseeing both sides. Esdee marketing head young cainis replaced lady who cabut after MD cabut to P1 in 2018 early and late both of them. Reason they hired him because got looks and charisma, very high keras. Nasa marketing head melei guy. These guys also won't buy korean brands unless company give them dirt cheap or free. For their celery range, they can buy Honda Civic easily or just go for CRV.

Now you know why marketing failed. So those said I'm troll coz these news won't find on google, go find out online if so pandai think everything can be found online.

Those who said mazda is expensive, look at this then...

Lel

I believe the Chinese will improve

Not like the tongkat plotek sarahan yahudi orang kite

Unfortunately Korean cars already forgo reliability and practicality after they got arrogant which is why they took deep dive in 2015 in here when my buddies started aiding T & H with strategies killing off Korean brand here. When korean brands failed here, the rest of ASEAN countries kecut and avoid korean cars.

Do you know why my friend abandoned his plan to get 2nd hand korean Tucson Santa Fe for X50? Because of failing electronics and impracticality that made korean cars lose reliability. You attack Honda but then ended up Korean cars that have failed reliability where those who bought Korean cars never go back to Koreans after selling their rides. Instead they ended with Toyota and Honda, some Chaina cars x70 now even x50. Later Binyue, emgrand maybe.

geely actually got potential
look at X50 premium and flagship
the whole odometer is digital now

wow korean civic

Matsuda will join Korean cold dying sales soon as evidence on the Matsuda 6, 3, 2, CX3/30 later 5 & 8 after the batch replaced. New generation matsuda are overweight, underpowered, overpriced with high FC and poor acceleration. Their reliability going down with unnecessary impractical electronics. Despite all the weight and so called high class, the thigh support poor in 3 that found in cheap car. Wonder why the so lousy seats that Civic and Altis could provide better thigh support despite so expensive

Just wait for proton for another 7 years la. The CEO said in 7 yrs, Proton will be 3rd best selling car brand in ASEAN, behind Honda and Toyota

This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Nov 18 2020, 06:47 PM

Make sure Mr. Park of Hyundai and Mr. Kim of Kia read this.

For Mazda its only underpowered for local ones only, the USDM models have turbo versions, even for the 3

Nice car

Damn..ugly over designed exterior but the interior...wow..nice

They don't bother coz Korean cars projects are actually Korea G tongkat company. The management in Korea only takes feedback from expatriates working in regional principal office here as management. When korean car sales bad or dead, they'll just lipot local taste for korean cars not there, case close. Therefore HQ in korea said no need assembly plant for next model shrinking back to small player with small numbers of import like in Indonesia, Thailand. They had planned to shift hub to Vietnam earlier until Vietcong imposed high taxes on non-local cars after Vietnam came up with winfast. Before that they look highly at Thailand but failed because China cars MG seizes all the sales.

Turbocharged Mazda are meant to counter 2.4/2.5L NA and above. Majority locals buy NA entry level 1.8L or 2.0L for C-segment. Do you know that the highly overpriced Mazda 3 1.5L is badly underpowered that it gets smoked by almost any car including old 2001 Altis 1.6L with 4AT? The mazda 3 2.0L consumes more fuel than the old Mazda 3. Acceleration 0-100km/h poor with high FC.

while interior seats failed thigh support badly despite claiming to be luxurious. The cheap seats don't support entire thigh. You don't get such cheap seats in Honda Civic, Toyota Altis. You take Civic to compete against Mazda 3 in handling test, the new 3 is lousy far behind Civic. You take it to rough road test, the comfortable level over bounce and rejounce far behind Civic and Altis.

Whenever a car brand has few models that can't sell doing badly, it will begin to fall like domino and go back to dark ages. Best example Korean cars and soon Mazda will join since they were cold door cars before this.

I have a Korean car at home (Hyundai i10)

Its impracticality is beyond my imagination. A Myvi is better.

It rides and handles like, well....a cheap car. It's reliability is ok but what puzzles me is the engineering and design choices.

There is no indicator and chime for the headlights inside the car. So if you turn the headlights on in day light, there is a big chance you will forget to turn it off.

That is just one. There are many more. Every time I drive it, I think to myself, Koreans are good designers but bad Engineers!