The Beyerdynamic)))) Appreciation Thread, Come Beyer fans! Join The Revolution!!
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 Dec 14 2011, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 14 2011, 10:42 AM) @Quazacolt: think we have just been trolled. :/ i dont mind   what i've said was true though, as you've probably known jaben's margin for beyer products compared to the rest (or in huge contrast, lol senns) |
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Dec 16 2011, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Dec 16 2011, 05:23 AM) Too sharp highs? closed can monitoring headphone |
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Dec 16 2011, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Dec 16 2011, 09:24 AM) i haven't tried m50 before, but m30 and m35 gives me the impression that highs very sharp. i dont find the highs for m50 (never tried m30) sharp at all.i just find the overall headphone being utterly boring (much like the beyer general sound sig on the mids, and hey, beyer market their headphones as monitoring too if you didn't knew  ) and i have a preference over full open can over closed/semi (again, speaker person) |
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Dec 20 2011, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Dec 20 2011, 01:25 PM) fiio e11 really gooding? i wanted it as a first choice before i got the govibe magnum i would say your govibe is better |
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Dec 20 2011, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 20 2011, 02:30 PM) Best neutral amp under Rm1000? The one that would not make the DT880 bright? And boost some bass now that is a really tough one. beyer default signature are towards high lows, most amps do an all rounder boost or usually boost the high lows (smoother/sharper highs for the clarity, lows for the bass as thats the things that most headphones lack without amp driven) *just asking btw* a possible way is a govibe peak (fits the budget) without gain boost and only on bass boost. not sure how that would turn out though as people typically boost both or only boost gain with bass boost if they dont care about bass. other than that, there are tubes, however i think you know where i stand regarding tubes and bass. but thats only cuz my bass requirement is kinda high compared to most, and tubes never cut it |
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Dec 20 2011, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 20 2011, 05:02 PM) I see, thanks for the explaination. Peak is a neutral amp? What about the Magnum? There's bass boost too on the Magnum. what hongrui said, govibes are not neutral amp for sure (in fact, a huge majority of amp are not neutral, as well, neutral amps are generally boring and wont be appealing to the market majority)Yeah, that's my case with tubes so far. Well, I've only tried the TinyTube DAC but tried some other tubes on it too, All lacking bass. But the stock tube is getting better after burning-in. I love bass coz I listen to radio-friendly songs I see, yeah looking towards neutral amp. Will judge after my DT880 and TTD reaches 500 hours. How much is the DACport and what will it do to the DT880? the bass is quite colored, the highs and mids not so much though, in fact i'd say the mids are fairly neutral. for the magnum, i've never auditioned them myself much, so won't comment. though i'd definitely prefer something bigger, and feeds through a nice power cord over something battery/usb powered and tiny  the dacport is about 1-1.3k? give/take. its a really neutral dac + amp combo (would lack flexibility if you have existing amps as you're kinda double amping, then again, it is a neutral amp and i've paired with the govibe peak before and didnt had any problems) my take for the dt880 (only minor audition) is that it improves over what the dt880 has, perhaps a bit of sound stage, lowers bass depth further, extends the highs, everything in "a bit" sense, over all "linear" improvement. again, it is a neutral dac + amp after all, so think of it as a mere boost over the existing sound signature of your headphone instead of altering it. Added on December 20, 2011, 6:39 pm QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 20 2011, 06:09 PM) a neutral amp is flat across the board, what you hear would be the headphone and your source. so a really neutral amp wouldn't add bass and you'd still have the brightness of the DT880. woah that expensive? last i remember checking the price with jaben was around 1.3k >_<the DACport is a somewhat neutral amp, but i find that the mids and treble don't sound very natural. price wise i'm not sure, i think second hand is around rm1300, so a new one would be in the region of RM2k? This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 20 2011, 06:39 PM |
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Dec 21 2011, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 20 2011, 11:50 PM) I see. Meaning is like not adding any amps, just to boost the power right? if i am bringing my headphone around, i will be carrying an extra bag anyways. my govibe peak can fit in that said bag just fine along with my headphone, so the magnum's portability is pointless to me I checked on Jaben's lelong site and it's RM1550. Definitely over my budget, unless I can find 2nd hand or can get a good deal with Jaben. I see, portability is kinda good since I just got a laptop. Can bring my DT880 when I go to my uncle's house on weekends. Looking at the GoVibe Magnum now. Especially coz it has bass boost! Omg, another interesting trip to Jaben coming up soon! Waiting for my DT880 and TTD to reach 500 hours first |
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Dec 21 2011, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Dec 21 2011, 03:21 PM) the magnum has a power cord as well. if no battery needs power. to me my magnum can act as a portable and desktop amp. but i think amps that size is kinda big to carry around no? my headphone is already too big to carry around, a desktop amp as big as the govibe peak makes no difference. just needs a power outlet.what is sibilance actually? |
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Dec 23 2011, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Dec 23 2011, 09:19 AM) i whr got tube amp now haha~ that one sound horrible la the build in dac is horrible the PCB board design is very bad all the capacitors used is very lauzi even change the tube make not much difference... so straight away i giv it away edi... mid frequency i am assuming (and not the sound stage?)compare to HD580 straight away DT880 sounded muddy... SA5000 is clearer punchy and most important accurate... they both are not suitable for vocal or lack of musicality (if not properly amp)~ but when i try it with Tiesto Maximal Crazy (accuracy test) dt880 hv much less details than sa5000, it sounds muddy compare to sa5000 and hd580~ the funny thing is there's smt missing in the middle/center if compare to sa5000~ well some might think it may not properly amp(DIY class AB), or dac(Tmuso) is not as good or even not from a good source (sharp MD player and ipod video)... but the same setup sa5000 and hd580 even hd650 shines~ my friend suggest its the cable problem~ PCwork might hv his magic(cable, lavry, PCW amp) for it soon haha~ then yeah, beyers are weak in that area. though i don't think it is detail that you're lacking, just the musicality/tonality or to put it in a bad way, coloration of the mids you are lacking |
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Jan 3 2012, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(George.low @ Jan 2 2012, 01:44 AM) Example tubes are more on the warm side.. solid state are more bright.. technically the dt880 may not be balanced because it can be considered "dark/warm" in a sense too (its bass)Just an examples on headphone~ HD650 is dark and warm DT880 is balances but more towards the bright side.. it just a very unique sound signature of focusing on the highs/lows that no other headphones companies adopt (not that i know of at least) |
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Jan 4 2012, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(George.low @ Jan 3 2012, 11:27 PM) Are you sure is dark and warm? i have both dt880 and hd650 le -.-' do i need to highlight the end of first line? if you dont think it is dark/warm, so be it.for the record anyways, yes i think the highs are bright and can be ear piercing depending on the amps you use |
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Jan 4 2012, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Jan 4 2012, 10:29 AM) +1 well, you have to give the beyer demo disc a try, no other products imo would shine so well with the beyers considering the disc ONLY focuses on highs/lows lolat first i thought it may good as a studio headphone but after i tried SA5000... i change my mind... but again for some music it sings with DT880 more than HD650(dull if not proper amp) and SA5000(lack of 'musicality' and without a proper amp it might sound sharp)~ it sounds fun and different~ or shd i say energetic~ at some point i consider it's a more fun sounding can compare to HD650 but all headphones hv very limit potential~ if compare to speakers so at some point u just need to find a headphone to suite ur taste~ i use hd650 for vocals, will use sa5000 for my Tiesto(!) and instruments music~ DT880 for something special~~ all just my opinion~ and i still hv not tried all 3 side by side but just with the same songs I used too listen~ will provide a proper review when my sa5000 arrived~ and yes, the dt880's bass is definitely more engaging than most headphone brands i've encountered. with good rivals such as grado/alessandro/GM. and yes, i think they surpasses any bass the AT lineups can put up. While AT have headphones like m50 or pro700mk II, they generally focuses on the bass quantity and not so much quality. and yea, if you're very particular about your music genre bandwidth, headphones can really hit their limitations right there, thankfully the combination i have right now isnt that much of a b**** to me. AT's are generally damn good on the highs/mids, and the lows are reinforced by my go vibe peak's bass boost, which stretches the genre bandwidth by quite a long mile i would say, which is heavily important for someone like me who listens to really really random genre music (anisong, which can be comprises of various genre from heavy metal to sentimental classicals/vocals, imagine the huge gap in between this 2 type of genre and everything in between lol) |
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Jan 5 2012, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(egyprince @ Jan 5 2012, 08:26 PM) Small one is always design for Portable. One of the downside with big good setup is that u cannot bring it out. case in point: home hi-fi with fully sound proofed rooms vs car ICE vs head fi vs portablesyes, it is quite orderly arranged, the price appropriately matches as well |
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Jan 5 2012, 11:24 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 250 can be considered high impedance. I'm on a low impedance headphone and I turn on both bass and high gain. (switches) Personally I would recommend both turned on As for the volume gain, I suggest 50/50 and experiment from there |
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Jan 6 2012, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Jan 5 2012, 11:27 PM) what headphones? my ATH sj55 sounds awful lol on my magnum im using AT AD900 as mentioned within my signature profile.and no i don't use a magnum |
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Feb 6 2012, 04:11 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ohm (impedance) is just a value of electrical resistance. it doesn't have much to do with details and especially bass. in fact, if you don't have a well power amp to power a high ohm value headphone, you would get less bass. |
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Feb 7 2012, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Slevin Sent @ Feb 7 2012, 06:29 PM) i had bought HD650 + Symphonica and HD250 Mk1 and HD480II will get a MDR-SA5000... closed cans, woodies or A series la. i just dont find the M50 musical enough lol.now focus on source -> DAC and desktop amp as well as pre amp~ mayb will buy a DT770pro/M50/HD25~ i really need a close can sometime~ for beyers, maybe their more portable ones, like dt1350 or t5p. just not full sized cans though, and the clamping may be uncomfortable over long hours |
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Feb 7 2012, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(D-Frog @ Feb 7 2012, 07:49 PM) Why you guys spend so much on headphones? Speaker would be a better choice personal preferences. and admittedly, i spend the most on speakers thus far. car speakers though |
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Feb 10 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(more2teayap @ Feb 10 2012, 11:36 AM) It's from DOTA i believe it originated from UT   also, end of OT please |
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Feb 11 2012, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE(sherman1997 @ Feb 10 2012, 08:49 PM) Guys, I am new to Beyer Dynamics if you dont need mobility, id recommend govibe peak desktop amp I just bought my dt 880 250 ohms almost a week only .I am planing to buy an amp below rm 900 , I wonder what amp are you all using can recommend me any good amp ?  |
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