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 The Beyerdynamic)))) Appreciation Thread, Come Beyer fans! Join The Revolution!!

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post Nov 4 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 4 2011, 08:32 PM)
hahaha it depends. a couple of people have heard and loved the beyer T1 pairing with my tiny tube. you may or may not like it but the important thing is just to meet together and chat about our audio journey, which is why i enjoy hosting meets.
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aye, thats always the most important thing, to share amongst each other. smile.gif
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post Nov 16 2011, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 16 2011, 03:29 AM)
I see. Yeah I guess I have to try it myself. Thanks bro!

Can my FiiO E11 run DT880/250 at it's full potential?
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i would say definitely not.
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post Nov 17 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 17 2011, 10:41 AM)
I used to think ad700 was super accurate and transparent till i tried the dt880. The tonal balance for the AD is just off. But i guess its just typical of ath's signature...too vocal-centric.
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AD series (or majority of AT's lineups) are never meant to be accurate.

that said, for Beyers to sound good, they wont be accurate either smile.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 12:03 pm
QUOTE(opethbleed555 @ Nov 17 2011, 10:56 AM)
The AD sound is more airy, more vocal centric. I tried the AD900 and it made me feel are you sure this is 1k+, somehow it has its qualities but with metal i would assume its going to be a mess. Ive listened AD 700 for jazz. brilliant but not for other genres
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i listen to rock a ton, and even some metal, i find it fine, in fact i find it a ton more engaging than beyers ever could be. the dillema of beyers is that if i go for solid states (govibe peak comes to mind, which jaben singapore pushes widely, not for msian market though) the mids would be totally boring, highs too harsh, and lows *MAY* be muddied if i turn on bass boost. if i go tubes, out the window for my bass.

now on the same page with the AT (for my case, AD900), using the govibe peak, due to the sparkles on the highs, electric guitars (very common for rock/metal) won't sound too harsh (although they can be border lining it depending on how long/high those guitar riffs go) and vocals would be engaging (which i find it important in rock, maybe not so much in metal since majority are just screamers) as opposed to beyers. that said, i typically listen to rock with female vocals, and if thats one brand thats good for female vocals, AT would be amongst the top for them.

now for the bass of AT, yes, they are weak. much weaker than the beyers to be frank. and thats where the govibe peak bass boost comes in just fine, since it is merely complimenting something that's already weak, it won't be overcompensating it. (personally i find the bass still not quite up to par on some cases, especially considering im more towards a speakers person, and thats where my ear pads come in, which solves both the potential highs harshness, and bass as a bonus, though they were meant for something else ^^; )

with all that said, i am still pretty new in this headphone audiophile thing, and my knowledge and experience with solid state are still pretty shallow (all the top players go tube, which... still never manage to captivate me as much as this little govibe peak does unfortunately) so i am definitely looking forward to head down that path and see where it would take me smile.gif

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post Nov 17 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 17 2011, 02:11 PM)
i think the bass of the DT880 is one of its most unrecognized factors. its "bass light" compared to something like the denon D7000, but when the music calls for it, the bass is definitely there. and it is the clean tight bass with no leakage, instead of the boomier bass of other cans. its bass quantity may not be as much as others, but for the DT880, its all about bass quality.
well, that's what i told myself too. but it lasted me for about a year before i moved up
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i'm definitely not touching headphones items until i got the rest of my priorities settled first tongue.gif

unless some really damn nice ss amp can overthrow the govibe peak, that doesn't cost an arm/leg lol
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post Nov 17 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 17 2011, 03:29 PM)
how much does your arm/leg cost? hehehe

my friend has been raving about his Audio-GD NFB10SE but i've yet to hear it for myself.
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never visited the black market wo sweat.gif

since you mention it, i assume its a solid state?
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post Nov 17 2011, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 17 2011, 04:31 PM)
no problem, just contact him again to arrange for an audition. or you can wait till i go KL in Dec.
hahaha yep its a solid state, but amp/dac combo selling at usd499. the big big DAC that you listened to in my room is also from Audio-Gd.
their stand alone amp C-2.2 is usd365.
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aiks amp/dac combo again lol.

hmm not sure if its the same audio-gd, cuz i listened the compass and i believed it was from audio gd, and that was just waaaaayyyy too laid back lol.

know anyone who have the stand alone C-2.2 amp?
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post Nov 18 2011, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(evilnickwong @ Nov 18 2011, 01:53 PM)
Quick question. I tried out a DT770 Pro 80ohm at Jaben SG. Gonna be using it for gaming + movies + music, everything la basically. Didn't get it yet since they didn't have new stock at that time.

However, later I read the 250ohm version sounds better, not as bass heavy as the 80ohm.
Thing is, I'll be using a Xonar DG which technically, only amps up to 150ohm.

What do you guys suggest?
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gaming and movies do require bass, and you did mentioned that your xonar only amps up to 150ohm, i suppose you already answered yourself? smile.gif
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post Nov 18 2011, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Nov 18 2011, 08:30 PM)
I see, the most important thing for me is bass boost. I love how my E11 provide the bass when I put it on 2 bass boost. I just love the synergy.

So I'll probably go with the Xonar Essence STX sound card since it's able to drive a headphone too.
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fiio bass boost (especially 2 levels) is just too artificial, and to me, too muddy. definitely ruins the bass quality of the dt880 imo.
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post Nov 24 2011, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(aztoiozalan @ Nov 23 2011, 09:59 PM)
sad.gif baru send it to gary hmmmm
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i baru met gary for the first time at jaben just now, will have some minor mod to the power source of my amp once gary/yuheng can source the parts lol.

and yeah my amp just returned icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 25 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 24 2011, 11:48 AM)
Definitely  cool.gif

Though the hissing is pretty strong. I guess its due to the fact its tubes?

Centrance dacport would be a good choice too. Very neutral and monitoring-grade
My ttd can power the 600ohm to very voluminous levels but just lacks the dynamics. Everything is one dimensional. Thats why i opt for the 250ohm.

Both are portable...but i doubt theres a portable amp that can power the 600ohm to its full potential. So theres no point carrying the 600 ohm around  laugh.gif
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tubes dont cause hissing

over amping, over current, unclean power supply, power issues, amp issues
(combination of few, or all of the above)
will cause it
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post Nov 28 2011, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Nov 28 2011, 08:34 PM)
he did try it before. but he didn't like it all that much, as i recall.
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pc work dah different league ady, no? lol
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post Nov 28 2011, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Nov 28 2011, 10:29 PM)
league or no league, we are just music lover. =)
i do have passion to enjoy good music. that's all.
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next time if got chance need to try out your lavry lol, really hard to get mid-higher end solid state users around here, everyone seems to just side with tubes tongue.gif
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post Nov 29 2011, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Nov 29 2011, 12:01 AM)
no problem. you're welcome for that
infact most ppl around me plays Solid state more than tube =)
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really? wonder where they are all these while after so many TT's ive been to. that said, i am referring to desktop solid state amps, not those tiny portable ones, they just never got on to me one bit sweat.gif
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post Nov 29 2011, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Nov 29 2011, 01:06 AM)
a lot, and while they are using solid state desktop amp, most of them don't even wanna move their setup as most of them hooked up their solid state DAC into their main speaker rig.
for just lavry alone had at least 7 user around me. just they remain un-active in forum and no longer interested to participate in gathering.
having said that, is there a lot tube amp setup appearing in TT?
i don't recall any besides akabane's yamamoto, and perhaps extra 1@2 tube out there.
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TT in generals, perhaps no, but thats kinda in a wierd perspective of mine that i am just looking up in general, since i am looking for potential upgrades to my govibe peak, so anything lesser, i dont really pay too much attention to it ^^;
that said, i also went to hongrui's house at Singapore. so thats also a tube setup, drives the T1 (and even my AD900) quite well, just not to my preference ^^;

say, since da11 is generally a DAC, do you run it alone or you hook up amps to it as well? my main priority now is a potential amp upgrade, to pair with ad2000 in the future (far future perhaps, whenever i decide to spend on my headphone setup again lol), and so far nothing can impress me as much as the govibe peak can do (which is, quite sad tbh lol)

not too concern about DACs as i just use software DACs which does work quite well, and comes quite close to something like centrance DAC port, which cost over 1k as opposed to something that is free, which to me, just does not justify the price at all with all things considered.
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post Nov 29 2011, 03:24 AM

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QUOTE(opethbleed555 @ Nov 29 2011, 02:25 AM)
so solid state is the order of the day. from my own understanding tubes are generally much more slower pace warmer with lush mids. During my guitar playing days tubes are sought after because of it carries the warmth of distiortion and solid state usually sound muddy but here its like a whole different ball game already .haha
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thats my main problem with tubes lol. any music thats upbeat/engaging from my track plays, and tubes just fail to perform up to par l sweat.gif
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post Nov 29 2011, 04:12 AM

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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Nov 29 2011, 04:03 AM)
It's kinda weird that you didn't try his larvy setup during jaben gathering. It's one of the few setups that doesn't use an amp but yet it sounds perfectly well to my ears. And it's goes very well with movies,gaming,music which I don't think many setup can pull it off easily. I do see one time in gathering where pcwork managed to poison one guy so bad just by letting him watching movies for a while with it, a rare sight especially when the setup was made specially for music listening at the first place thumbup.gif

In short you really need to try this the next time he organized the TT gathering. It changed my point of view about senn cans (before this I'm kinda dislike the HD650 original dark sound signature so I stick with beyer cans most of the time) in a good way. smile.gif
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probably because i never went to any jaben gathering that pcwork is present? laugh.gif

will definitely give it a try whenever the opportunity arises smile.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Dec 6 2011, 10:02 AM)
Will do once I get my camera. Hurm so far so good! Like I say, the soundstage and details are amazing. Just lacking a bit of bass emphasis. Maybe because it's not burned-in yet  hmm.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 6 2011, 11:15 AM)
leaving it on without playing is not burning. at best it can be considered a warmer. the TTD actually is pretty cool for a tube amp. larger ones get even hotter.

if you want slightly more bass, the GE/sylvania tube is a possible option. i will finish burning the amperex tube tomorrow morning, and will then switch over to telefunken.

Quazacolt: hahaha imo, tube doesn't go with AT-AD series. unless you just want the mids to shine while giving up treble and bass, like the woodies. for you, give the meier concerto amp a try, its a SS. i think your taste runs that way.
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im talking from a more general perspective, be it beyers, akg, senns, grados to Alessandro or even AT (few hours of jaben with clear objectives of audition could get you very far wwww) and disregarding any brands of tube amps (or setup)

eg: your tube setup with T1 (not an AT)

and thanks for the recommendation, though honestly i've never heard of that name at all, nor do i think anyone in malaysia runs that setup sad.gif

will have to dig it up a bit myself and hopefully someone would have it for audition
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post Dec 6 2011, 12:18 PM

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http://www.headfonia.com/meier-audio-concerto-and-stagedac/

this doesnt look good haha


Added on December 6, 2011, 12:49 pm
btw, i think i've definitely heard/saw it, because his face (jan meier) reminded me LOL!

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post Dec 6 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(hongrui @ Dec 6 2011, 01:23 PM)
hehehe it sounds much better than that writeup. but its good that you've auditioned it. hahaha i'm more familiar with tubes and concerto is one of the few SS amps that i've auditioned. & i prefer concerto to lavry's amp.
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Ah sorry by heard I didn't mean that I auditioned it. Just simply heard of the brand/model that's all.

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