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 Here's why X50 3-cylinder engine is better than 4

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post Nov 17 2020, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 16 2020 @ 02:10 PM)
To save on manufacturing costs = maximize profits, downsizing the Ford Fiesta hatchback engine from 1.4L 4-cylinder to 1.0L Turbo 3-cylinder  introduced a host of unnecessary engine noise and vibration problems that needed to be dampened, various under-powered conditions and higher fuel consumption IRL, which did not actually benefit the consumers one bit.
QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 16 2020, 07:39 PM)
Lol manader. Ayam using one now mileage 110k km, still on stock mounting and everything

Meanwhile the other 4 cyl car at home (poton suprima and pijot 308) mileage baru 105k km already almost needing its 4th engine mounting change

Ayam pesta ekobus fuel consumption around 8-10l/100km, meanwhile the pijot and ploton same driving style and condition around 12-14l/100km
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ford/f...ong-term-review - Ford Fiesta ST-Line long-term review - 23 Nov 2018
With so much to love, the Fiesta had us smitten in the first few hundred miles. That was until we gauged how much fuel it was using. The 1.0-litre Ecoboost unit, even in punchiest 138bhp form, is claimed to enable 57.6mpg combined and 47.1mpg in town. But the urban figure was closer to 30mpg(= 7.8l/100km) to begin with, meaning this little triple had a drinking habit comparable with a luxury saloon’s. Economy thankfully improved, with the daily commute more consistently returning 40mpg, but it plateaued there and average motorway economy never rose beyond the mid-40s.

https://topgear.com.my/quick-take-ford-fiesta-ecoboost
So how does the EcoBoost fair with the Ford Fiesta? Well, it's both good and bad, and we'll start with the good first. ...

Where you will find discomforting is when you are not driving the Fiesta at full spirit. At slow speeds, the Fiesta struggles to keep pace due to the limitations of the DCT gearbox, and the lagginess of the fly-by-wire throttle. Now with a 3-cylinder turbocharged engine in play, there's additional lag to annoy you when trying to keep it rolling on slow, followed by a sudden turbo boost to upset and confuse you. Basically, the Fiesta doesn't do well at slow speeds. ....

But this is a small price to pay when you get a return of 5.3L/100km for the kind of fun you get to enjoy. Realistically, the best we got out of the fuel consumption is approximately 7.5-8.0L/100km, but that's still acceptable for a punchy little hot hatch.

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post Nov 19 2020, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Nov 16 2020, 12:25 AM)
counterweighted crankshafts, dual mass flywheel with centrifugal pendulum absorber damper, single balancing shaft, low noise timing belt, high stiffness oil pan, asymmetric oil pump impeller, engine compartment and vibration dampener.

Add so many things because want to save 1 cylinder. Not much weight saving.
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That parts mostly harga Volvo kan ? whistling.gif rolleyes.gif
Dingdongcc
post Nov 19 2020, 09:10 AM

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BMW, volvo got 3 cylinder nobody bising? Later even proton got 4 cylinder people complain why not 5.
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Dingdongcc @ Nov 19 2020, 09:10 AM)
BMW, volvo got 3 cylinder nobody bising? Later even proton got 4 cylinder people complain why not 5.
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because BMW owners mampu bayar parts repair bila rosak... the other one hmmmm....
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(lagista @ Nov 19 2020, 09:16 AM)
because BMW owners mampu bayar parts repair bila rosak... the other one hmmmm....
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Wanna buy car must get ready cash for maintenance lo.
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Nov 16 2020, 02:39 PM)
Well you look at the x50 now, only offer 5 years unlimited mileage. What does that tell you?

If its 10 years unlimited mileage warranty on engine and transmission then I will consider.

I am also speaking from experience, was driving Kelisa when I was student so I know what a 3cyl engine feels like. You can say all you want, 3 cyl will definitely vibrate more than 4 cyl because of harmonic imbalance, what car manufacturers can do is implement dampening and counterbalance shaft to negate the vibration. How long this will last time will tell, I certainly wouldnt be touching this from a mile away for the sake of better fuel economy especially from an unproven car manufacturer.
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Well, if you read any X50 reviews, i don't think vibration is a problem. And yes, i have test drive Viva before. First time in my life, wondering why the car vibrate like kapchai. Later read up only realized is caused by 3 cyclinders engine.

But in the long run, i still have doubt with 3 cyclinders engine. I will take 4 cyclinders N.A. anyday over 3 cyclinders tebu.
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:27 AM

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Didn't know Geely Volvo engine so power. Power until you heaven. Brand new car also can be power.


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post Nov 19 2020, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(NB01 @ Nov 19 2020, 09:25 AM)
I will take 4 cyclinders N.A. anyday over 3 cyclinders tebu.
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Smart guys get it, insapla
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post Nov 19 2020, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(nonexno @ Nov 19 2020, 09:27 AM)
Didn't know Geely Volvo engine so power. Power until you heaven. Brand new car also can be power.
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post Nov 19 2020, 10:03 AM

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This tread is hilarious. That's why people call you all universiti of lowyat.
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post Nov 19 2020, 11:00 AM

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Yes, of course company employee will promote their own products so can't trust 100%, but the alternative, university of lowyat grads, can trust 10%?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 16 2020, 07:39 PM)
Lol manader. Ayam using one now mileage 110k km, still on stock mounting and everything

Meanwhile the other 4 cyl car at home (poton suprima and pijot 308) mileage baru 105k km already almost needing its 4th engine mounting change

Ayam pesta ekobus fuel consumption around 8-10l/100km, meanwhile the pijot and ploton same driving style and condition around 12-14l/100km
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have you change to other SC/pomen when replacing engine mounts? suprima set got one component that can be installed the wrong way (the smallest one), which of course would make it wear out sooner.

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