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 PS5 Chat tread ver2, 11th December 2020 - MALAYSIA LAUNCH DAY

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SSJBen
post Nov 27 2020, 09:35 PM

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Crucial MX500 is a good drive for external usage with PS5 (and also the PS4 of course). It's not absurdly priced and has a DRAM cache buffer. I highly recommend them for external storage.
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post Nov 27 2020, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(madballs @ Nov 27 2020, 09:45 PM)
If compare to KingstonĀ  a2000?
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Unfair comparison no? A2000 is an nvme drive on PCIE3.0. So the Kingston is of course faster.

But unless you want to stick that drive into a PCIE to SATA to USB 3.0 converter, I don't think the a2000 is a convenient drive for the PS5 as an external storage holding PS4 games.

EDIT - that said, PS4 games will not take advantage of the extra speed of the nvme drive anyways. There will be imperceptible difference to a SATA SSD.

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post Nov 27 2020, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(madballs @ Nov 27 2020, 10:07 PM)
I have the enclosure/converter. That's why I ask.

I'm not sure if the NVME speed will have any effect on the ps5 as an extended drive compare to conventional Sata SSD.

But looking at your answer. It's most likely minimal speed increase if there's any.
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Probably won't know the answer until Sony enables PS5 games to be played off external storage. I doubt they ever will since no external storage is ever going to be a like for like equal to their custom on board storage. Storing games externally as archival storage sounds more likely.

But as far as PS4 games go, next to no difference.

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post Dec 1 2020, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(alpayedo @ Dec 1 2020, 05:45 PM)
Tips on calibrating hdr



TLDW, correct me if im wrong

1. In tv setting, set to hgig mode
2. In ps5 setting, in step 1/3, set the level until the sun completely invisible instead of barely visibile
3. In step 2, no need to change brightness
4. In step 3, set to lowest brightness, for ideal view in ambient light room
5. Set rgb mode to full rgb
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No.

I expected this video to create even more confusion, fucking vincent didn't put a big disclaimer at the beginning of the video.

1) Not all TVs have HGIG.
2) He set the level of 1 tick above sun being visible to barely visible (which you cannot see in his video because his camera exposure is wrong). The problem is that if your TV does not have HGIG, it will always be tone mapping. Therefore you cannot just set it to 15 steps from the lowest setting and expect the same result.
3) Do the same thing as step 1.
4) You set to the lowest if your room is pitch black or if your ambient light is no MORE than 5 nits. Do you know how dim is 5 nits? Also it should only be set to 0 if your TV is an OLED.
5) Yes set RGB to Full, but make sure your TV is also set to Full/High (whatever it's labeled).

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post Dec 1 2020, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(madballs @ Dec 1 2020, 09:27 PM)
If for LG C9 I need to set hgig tone mapping on the TV before Ps5 hdr calibration correct?

His wording is confusing.
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Yes enable HGIG in game mode before you do the HDR calibration on the PS5 (goes the same for the PS4 previously).
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post Dec 2 2020, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Dec 2 2020, 03:27 PM)
this card is same price as PS5,but not sure PS5 GPU is better  biggrin.gif
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The 3060ti on all accounts is better than the PS5's GPU if you just want to talk technical specs and nothing else.

But you gotta put price into the context, when the latter is punching so far above its weight that it actually makes the 3060ti looks like a stupid value.

2299 for a PS5 gets you a complete system (albeit half baked), 2299 for a GPU alone is no different than a door stopper.
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post Dec 2 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Dec 2 2020, 03:53 PM)
At the first place, why even bother to compare? doh.gif
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I don't see a problem with comparing tech specs, as long as it remains in that discussion.

But fanbois love to bring price into the argument all the time. rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 2 2020, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 2 2020, 04:04 PM)
Just like boring old IOS VS Android comparison.  yawn.gif
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Not at all. iOS and Android are software comparisons. Even then, it's only boring if you don't understand either of them deep enough to have a fruitful discussion.


QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 2 2020, 04:10 PM)
I enjoy being console peasant playing games from the comfort of my recliner sofa with 5.1.2 surround speakers and a entry level 70" 4k tv.
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I have both. You can do the same with the PC from a recliner.
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post Dec 2 2020, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Dec 2 2020, 04:30 PM)
I peasant only, so if buy laser projector also will go for entry level quality  notworthy.gif
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Entry level laser projectors are not actually using laser... if you're talking about a true laser projector that is entry level, it'll cost more than both a top of the line PC and PS5 combined.
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post Dec 2 2020, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Dec 2 2020, 06:09 PM)
Saw this external hdd in Amazon SG, not sure if worth buying hmm.gif

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It exists locally too, so not sure why you need to check Amazon?

Furthermore, it's just a slow HDD. No reason to get it either.
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post Dec 2 2020, 08:09 PM

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Should start looking into UHD TVs, the resolution is not really the selling point. But rather HDR just adds a whole new dimension to a game (if done well of course).
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post Dec 2 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Dec 2 2020, 08:50 PM)
Agreed to this HDR is whole new level compare to SDR. It is like DVD and bluray different. 4k distance abit far wont be very visible, but hdr memang diff
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Yeah HDR is mind blowing in some games. Detroit, GTSport, R&C Remake, Spider-Man, Shadow of Tomb Raider and TLOU2 are some of my favorite HDR titles.

I can't see those titles being in SDR, looks really lifeless.


QUOTE(clowve @ Dec 2 2020, 08:51 PM)
I've seen some games like RDR2 and TLOU2 played with HDR on, but I'm one of those that actually prefer SDR. Seems like there's was an over correction of gamma on the screen. But that's just my opinion biggrin.gif
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RDR2 has broken HDR, because the game was made in 2013. They half assed the HDR mode because they took so damn long to release the game that by the time it's ready, PS4 pro was already out. There was a later patch that tried and fix it, but it's not ideal.

Disagree on TLOU2, it's one of the best looking HDR games.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 2 2020, 09:56 PM)
Agreed to this. Totally different gaming experience.

When I went to Sony Store The Curve and asked about the X9000H, straightaway the SA asked me for PS5?

He told me even before Pre-Order for the PS5 started, many were already looking for this model. So that explains why they oversold the 55'. Only available stocks now are 65' onwards. sweat.gif
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Go as big as you can. 65" is so much better than 55.
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 09:52 PM)
Im not upset lah tongue.gif

Just dont like the fact that 2 people paid the same price for the same product, but one of them is getting a slightly inferior spec

Also dont like those who just turn a blind eye simply because they belong to the PS camp
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Wouldn't call the other fan (with lesser blades) inferior. Both fans aren't being used to their maximum capability anyway, so at such a low capped speed - the difference is negligible. It's only at higher RPMs where the difference will become more obvious. More over, the fan is cock blocked by the silly panels too.

Just like the PS4 Pro's nidec vs delta fan, I wouldn't say either fan was superior to one over the other either.
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 11:24 PM)
Given that all else is equal, a fan that has more blades is more quiet than the one with less no? 

Time to list down which type we get come launch day because apparently theres more than 2 types of fan designs
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Not necessarily. More blades means the fan is heavier, which causes centrifugal stability issues over time especially when the fan is being used in a vertical space. Granted the bearings on the fan is definitely strong enough to withstand the weight (or otherwise they wouldn't even pass OEM QC stage much less to say shipped to the client - Sony in this case) but overtime, the lighter fan may not succumb to bearing grind as quickly as the heavier one. The design of the blade is of course also important.

5dbA is indeed a noticeable difference, but it depends on the distance of where that 5dbA is recorded. From that article, they recorded it from up the at the exhaust IINM (correct me if I'm wrong).
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post Dec 4 2020, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(tohff7 @ Dec 4 2020, 01:43 AM)
what if my cover plates is not white enough? can complain?
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The cover plates memang not white. It's a very light shade of grey (probably 2% off white).
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post Dec 5 2020, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Deathhunter @ Dec 5 2020, 05:53 PM)
gotta wait for next batch,
btw any idea when the console will be available in regular shops like just go n purchase?
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At least after Q1 2021. Even then, don't expect surplus stock like buying oranges.

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