I have just change my tyre today and do the aligment at the same time, the foreman was telling me my car camber was run out so ask me to change the camber, price is RM45 to change or RM25 to adjust it back.
actually I was hear some ppl telling before it is no necessary to change camber coz is useless and normally tyre shop just cheating you so end up I tell the foreman to let me consider first and i did't do anything.
actually is really necessary to change the camber or not?

I do encounter similar situation like you, the mechanic inform me that the camber has run out, so need to fix it back or else the tyre will eat one side <- don't know how to explain in proper english

I heard from other forum, that camber is not necessary to fix it unless your car has been involved in an accident before.

Yup the chmber nut just cost rm8 while they happily charge you rm40 that piss off a lot of people.

some time need to change the screw to adjust the camber....the screw aroundRM20 /pcs

lucky enough if only needed to buy camber nut..
if hondas, need to buy camber kit.. cheapest also more than RM500 already

actually almost every time i do aligment (different place) they also ask me change th camber, at first i just listen and change so now my camber no more original and is replace by adjustable camber.
since i change before did it mean i need to keep going change and change if camber is run out or can just ignore what foreman tell me?
if not change really won't 'eat tyre' like wht he telling me?
what is your opinion?

agreed. there is no way u can adjust camber on a Honda, except for getting the aftermarket adjustable camber kit which costs quite damage to your monthly pocket.

if you don't fix your cambers...your tyres will last only half its lifetime. This is because like what ckkean says - "the tyre will eat one side" which also means much less grip in dry or wet. The other side won't "touch" at all and it will be wasted.

The previous owner of my car had camber problems and although "one side" is new, the "other side" was not safe to drive especially if I'm going outstation.

so u opinion is necessary to change camber if it run out lo? actually i quite worry it eat my trye one side..
normally how long can camber last after change and should i just adjust it or change to a new 1?
anyway feel RM45 is quite expensive..

Go and find the RM 9.90 alignment shop la

Hi bro,

Get to know your camber angle when doing allignment. Running on near stock value can liao~ About -0.8 degree to +0.3 degree should be okay~ Read this somewhere a tyre shop~

Don't get cheated~

Alignment is what's going to determine your tire's longevity... not your chamber.The chamber exists so that you can make alignment adjustments.. on certain cars... chamber nuts are added.. and they're used to pull/push/adjust alignment thus diminishing any unintended toe in/out issues...

Bottom line.Go to ONE tyre shop regularly.. make sure he's providing you with top notch workmanship and from there on.. take his word for it.. tyre shops around the klang valley region have a reputation for f***ing their customers up.. regardless off weather or not you're a regular...they'll bang you inside out each and every time...


If he says that the nut is bent/damaged/no longer usable ask him to show it to you.

i did add 2 camber bolts last time when i change my springs set..

the tyre shop fella said must add to adjust camber then only can get the allignment correct..

so as far as i know camber wont run much if u don kena bang or always hit into holes on the road..(especially big holes)

Some one correct me if im wrong..

but i think 45 bucks a piece is too darn expensive laa

mine is 35 bucks oni...next time adjust from him oso 15 bucks oni

This post has been edited by -dexter-: Aug 30 2007, 12:13 PM

camber will neva run out. . . .
jus tat fella wanna get more commision from on only chop u camber nut. . . .
next time tell tat fella adjust toe in/out only. . .
if tis guy say must change camber nut only can adjust then u can jus walk away cuz he's trying 2 conned u

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Added on August 31, 2007, 11:23 pmyes!!
he's right. . . .

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Added on August 31, 2007, 11:24 pmi 2nd it cuz it's suppose 2 b. . . .
otherwise go other shop. . ..

This post has been edited by cheeann: Aug 31 2007, 11:24 PM

change camber or adjust camber?camber screw doesnt need changes so often.afaik camber is the setting of the tilt of the tyre when looking from front or rear.if the tyre ti.lt to which the top goes towards inside the fender is called -ve camber and vice versa .i adjust camber everytime service my car.i think its important camber 'lari' (blame potholes) the tyre will eat one side like others mentioned before, and corner also not syiok

This post has been edited by icyd: Sep 3 2007, 12:50 AM

well,bro....
i can say 100% tat u've been chop everytime also kena adjust camber. . . .
i believe tis shop dunno how 2 adjust d car's toe in/out 4 da car's wear n tear~

some info

"Toe

Toe, simply put, is direction the wheels are pointing. Zero toe would be perfectly parallel wheels pointing straight forward. Toe-out means the front of the tires are farther apart than the rear of the tires. Toe-in means the front of the tires are closer together than the rear of the tires. Toe has different effects on tire wear in the front and in the rear. When the front wheels are toed out, the inside edge of the tire scuff and wear out early. When the front wheels are toed in, the outside edge will scuff and wear out early. However, on rear tires toe usually causes a diagonal cupping wear pattern whether the tires have too much toe in or too much toe out. The diagonal cups are caused by the tires hopping and skipping along the road. It's hard to explain why, but I'll give it a try. Draw an overview of a car with 4 wheels on a piece of paper, make the front wheels parallel, but toe the rear wheels in substantially (say 45 deg. in just to make the demo easier) Now draw lines parallel with the rear tires following their path of travel if they were to roll. You will notice that the lines you have drawn intersect. Since the tires are attached to the car they can not intersect. Instead they roll a bit, then skid outward, roll a bit, then skid outward again. This goes on and on until the tires have diagonal cups worn into the treads where they have been skidding outward. By the way, if you are reading this, and get it, and can write a clearer version, and feel like doing a good deed, and have some spare time, my e-mail address is paul@artsautomotive.com

Camber

Camber is the lean of the wheel. If the top of the wheel tilted away from the car, that is called positive camber. If the top of the wheel is tilted in towards the car, that is called negative camber. Camber can cause a pull to one side or the other depending on the direction of the lean. The car will pull in the direction of the wheel with the most positive camber. However, if both sides have the same amount of negative or positive camber, they will cancel each other out and the car will not pull. Camber can cause premature tire wear, but is not as hard on tires as toe is."

http://www.artsautomotive.com/thealignmentstory.htm

then can u tell me y my tire wear outside more then inside while my front camber is -1.00 both side n my total toe is zero. . . .
it's ok if u can't explain 2 me cuz now many ppl actually understand da real meaning of aligment

maybe u do a lot of high speed cornering kot haha.dangerous u know

yes indeed. . . .
both my satria n kancil is set tis way. . . .
cuz i'm an agresive driver n easily get provoke by ppl on da road. . . .
normally i take corner way much faster than normal ppl without good aligment setup. . . .
i've been working as mechanic 4 d passed 12yrs
n i know a lot workshop's tactic of chopping camber 2 get more commision on their salary. . . .
n do u know tat most 95% of all cars in malaysia will pull slighty a bit 2 da left? ?