http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8451

This post has been edited by toughnut: Aug 15 2007, 03:41 PM

Aint cheap =/
omg at the cache D:

it will cheap in few months time...

where got new tech sell cheap?

C2Q is going to drop price soon Btw, is this a processor really going to hv 4 cores? or 2 c2D ?

4 native cores

duh.. penryn is server types processor. sort like itanium if not mistaken. but some nut OCers will buy and torture it for sure

FYI

penryn is never like itanium...

in fact.. itanium is totally different (heavily dependent on compiler)

This post has been edited by jinaun: Aug 15 2007, 04:04 PM

wa...lowest price will cost us RM700++ that is expensive.

wrong post.

This post has been edited by Lemmings: Aug 15 2007, 04:20 PM

This is what you call the true quad core... with 4 cores... unlike the transition quad cores produced by intel that follows the same structure as pentium D just with 2 C2D, thats all. Now would be really interesting though the competition betwen phenom and penryn:) And well not that the normal user is gonna get quad core at the moment, because its ridiculously expensive.....

wa ! the most cheap also need $$200 ..
i might go 4 c2d now , IMO

yupp.. maybe next year ill get 1

dont expect quadcore priced at dualcore price.

Q6600 2.4GHz 8MB $25x
E5410 2.33GHz 12MB $256

compare both, actually it worth getting penryn

Just to make some correction, yorkfield is still MCM. Intel refuse on having native quad cores anytime soon.

Those price are for server/workstation parts. Desktop will be much cheaper. Maybe just a little expensive than current C2D and C2Q.

Whats MCM bro? yorkfield is made out of two wolfsdale dies on one module... in which wolfsdale is the desktop version of the penryn and yorksfield is suppose to be the succesor of the kentsfield...

This post has been edited by a1098113: Aug 15 2007, 05:19 PM

those pricelist above is quadcore? means yorkfield?

Yes the penryn family quad core is up to 12MB cache while dual core is 6MB. Its Xeon anyway. C2D family maybe E8xxx

wow, 12MB cache

You can't compare it this way.

1. Intel is expecting LARGE volumes of chips for this pricing, at least more than 10 purchases per Xeon order, and most of them from LARGE companies like Dell, HP and the like. What you see in retail is different (and probably marked up to a certain extent)

2. Happy paying the motherboard costs and switching to inferno FM-DIMMs. Both will cost you more than a ton, and Intel has a terribly large cut out of server motherboards, compared to even their lucrative margins on their consumer ones.

3. Quadcore Xeons were cheaper than quadcore Core 2s. And they came first. See point 2 to see why everyone balked.

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Aug 15 2007, 06:39 PM

LOL its the princing for workstation and server penryn only... wht about desktops?

Since the pricing is for workstation/server usage, so i think the price is reasonable, right?

Ya this is Xeon. ...

iirc, it's Multi Chip Module. 2 dual core die pasted onto the same package, thus the reference MCM.

I think wut he means here is, its a Server processor.

2008.

Multi-chip module aka > 1 die in a single package - not necessarily both dies are the same.
First done on the Pentium Pro (core + cache).
The XBox 360 chip Xenos is MCM (core + EDRAM), so is AMD's HD2900 GPUs (GPU + Ram).
Expect more MCMs in the near future.

Socket 775 but mobo-dependent.

2008- Funny, that's when AMD goes MCM-ing 2 45nm Barcelonas!
X360 chip MCM spec is right, but HD2900 has discrete memory.

What is the advantage of the 12MB cache? It is huge man

cache dependent application like games will benefit the large cache, maybe around 5-15% improvement. But the largest improvement on Penryn that it has fully SSE4 support which the optimized software will benefit around 100% for example DiVX.

MCM = multichip module.
I'm not quite sure what do you mean by desktop version of Penryn. Which indicates penryn is from mobile or server?
To makes things clear, read back the dailytech articles. The simplest way to understand what penryn is, its a 45nm shrink of current core 2 family. Not specifically refer to only one chip.

Hmm.. 2008. Right after nehalem?

I don't recall any mcm-ing in AMD's latest roadmap. Is it Shanghai? Bulldozer? Bobcat? Did I miss something?

This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Aug 17 2007, 05:11 AM

"K10.5" is both monolithic Shanghai, and also Montreal, MCM-ing 2 Shanghais. At 45nm and AMD's relatively better stance on each process they migrate to, it should be good.

i don think any XP users need this yet... i'll wait for Vista SP1 or 2 and no more complaints from Vista users only get... E2160 should be able to hold on wif me...

since this is a penryn thread... dun mind i ask something about c2q.... is the q6600 a real quad core? cause i read from c2dx's product brief.. it says it is running on 4 INDEPENDENT cores... whereas the c2q says 4 EXECUTION cores..

any sif00 mind explains to me?? thank u thank u very much..

This post has been edited by capiche: Sep 5 2007, 06:31 PM