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 Is it worth to buy used camry hybrid?

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DS51
post Sep 30 2020, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(captsiv @ Sep 30 2020, 01:22 AM)
There is no way a battery could last that long, even with newest and greatest technology, unless u pushed for 300k km in a year, than sure
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Sep 30 2020, 01:14 PM)
Conclusion: No need to argue with those wanna drive Myvis but wanna demotivate others to avoid futuristic cars.
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QUOTE(kkm @ Sep 30 2020, 03:59 PM)
Bro, I used to own the Camry Hybrid until 2 months ago. Have you had the pleasure?
I did the numbers. Extra 500 bucks road tax. Extra 300 bucks insurance. Sure, the low profile was fun to drive, but every time it rained, I had to take evasive action. I saw my neighbour with a Civic Hybrid fork out over 10k ringgit when he developed problems with his inverter equipment.

So if you haven't owned one, don't try to sound like you have!
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I want to story mory..u know what, Honda got 8 years warranty on battery. But that 8 years not cover battery degrade capacity.topkek. Means if ur battery totally cannot hold charge only they change new for u.

My brother just change his insight battery. He buying new in year 2011 and this year change new one. And he got warranty rejected from year 7 until warranty finish. kek.

Yes, hybrid battery can last very very long. But the degrade is happen, ya, it can last maybe up to 20 years. But above certain years, u already feel the power is lost even after the battery fully charged. And they dont cover battery degradation capacity.

B4 someone shoot me said I hate hybrid cars, I want to said, Im proud owner of 2013 facelifted crz with sport plus button. Dig my old comment. I do upload crz picture.

edit-I believe my crz battery can last 25 years. Only use for short distance, so if got loss power just layan dont want to change battery. Let them deplete until 0 only I change. Ya, I feel only a lil bit power loss, but not as obvious as my bro insight. Kek. Maybe due to his long distance often.

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post Sep 30 2020, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Sep 30 2020, 11:10 AM)
one thing you need to note is that. battery is not the only thing you need to consider.

from what i know, hybrid cars, different parts also is for hybrid design, which is more costly than a petrol car.

but then again, i'm not against buying one second hand. just see if its suit you. like other said, if its not a city stop-go drive, then your saving could be reduced.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 30 2020, 06:32 PM)
Well, how long your Lithium battery last? It is stated that the Lithium is designed to have 500 time recharge but well I can say it can last more recharge cycle, However, how long the battery last between recharge? I believe you know that the time for every recharge get shorter and shorter.  smile.gif
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When Honda city rs come out..u come to honda sa and query about hybrid battery. I believe they will said, 'honda gib 8 years warranty on battery'. 'battery can last very long'. 'even insight battery 10 years not even change'

Later on try, u try give knockout question 'Does it cover battery degradation?'. U will see their priceless reaction. lol.
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Oct 1 2020, 11:09 AM)
Some manufacturers are very transparent about the degradation.

In my Volvo for example:
- 96 cells battery in 6 modules (16 cells in each module)
- you can't change individual cell, but can change single module
- Use only 73% of the battery where empty = 17%, full = 90%
- designed degradation rate is with 2x full charge daily on 300 days a year, battery capacity remain > 70% over 15 years
- long term storage recommendation is store with 1/4 battery level. Check and top up every 6 months.

One full charge is 40KM of pure electrical drive in hybrid mode (50KM if deliberately set to Pure mode), it is true to real usage for me.

So 2x full charge = 80KM, 300 days = 24,000KM on pure electric drive a year.
That's more than normal people can charge unless one have charger at both work and home. Most people only able to charge on way due to limited charging stations.

Ya, completely agree with you, you change it when it degrade below your practical usage.
We know battery will degrade when we buy the car, there are other features we value that makes us want the car, when time comes just replace what degraded/gone bad. If you drive 100,000KM on ICE, piston ring leak lubricant also what.

Some people want to buy big car like Camry, but not willing to pay service, wear and tear maintenance, not even willing to pay road tax and insurance. He win liao loh.
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Fuh.very detailed and transparent from Volvo. Honda and other manufacturer definitely need to learn from them about this.

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post Oct 2 2020, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Oct 1 2020, 03:41 PM)
Can elaborate how your brother fail to claim warranty for the HV battery? AFAIK, battery degradation is allowed to claim warranty. I mean, how can you expect the battery not to degrade?
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Who said battery degrade can claim warranty ma?. at least not for Honda. lol. If can, I also want claim my crz battery since next year my battery warranty is expired.

I cannot explain very detail scared Honda Lod. But, its like this, my bro feel power no longer umphh.means torque no longer juicy supplied by battery. even after battery full charged, power no longer the same.

Honda reject said, its normal behavior and battery still hold charge. so warranty rejected.

Yeah, battery degrade is normal. but, they Honda should be very transparent said, 8 years warranty only cover battery malfunction, not cover 10% battery left from degrade. But if Honda told like that to customer, no one will buy hybrid rights?(as customer aware they force to change battery even if the battery still ok due to degrade capacity hence degrade power)



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post Oct 15 2020, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(chuckie3218 @ Oct 14 2020, 12:23 PM)
So far nothing broke or need any major replacement after 3.5 years.
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Jap sedan very robust. My accord until 7 years, no much change parts. only after enter into 8 years, problem surface one by one.

But luckily got 3rd party parts made from Thailand. If original Honda Japan parts, cut throat nia.

 

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