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post Sep 20 2020, 07:10 PM, updated 3y ago

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Seems Philips Malaysia is very slow to bring
new 2020 models (last digit in model is 5), not even OLED to offer here.

Noticed that DESA Home listed on Lazada Android model 50PUT8215, but no stock yet.

Singapore and Australia has much better choice, with 2020 and OLED models.

Philips 2020 TV line-up

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post Sep 22 2020, 08:34 PM

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next week i might buy philips 4k tv 55PUT6654 .. good price but i wonder why philips less popular here in malaysia
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 22 2020, 08:34 PM)
next week i might buy philips 4k tv 55PUT6654 .. good price but i wonder why philips less popular here in malaysia
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brought ? we have alot ready stock live chat with us from shopee or lazada , we got latest model 55put7374
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post Oct 4 2020, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(myelectricalshop @ Oct 4 2020, 12:21 PM)
brought ? we have alot ready stock live chat with us from shopee or lazada , we got latest model 55put7374
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not yet , planned to place an order this coming 7th october .. walla there is 55put7374 ? sweat.gif lucky me didnt place an order too fast laugh.gif

update : the price rm2999 , out of my budget .. so i will go for 55PUT6654 which is rm1.9k plus

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 4 2020, 01:57 PM)
not yet , planned to place an order this coming 7th october .. walla there is 55put7374 ? sweat.gif lucky me didnt place an order too fast laugh.gif

update : the price rm2999 , out of my budget .. so i will go for 55PUT6654 which is rm1.9k plus
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Live chat with us la ... we got discount for both model smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(myelectricalshop @ Oct 4 2020, 05:30 PM)
Live chat with us la ... we got discount for both model smile.gif
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your shop dont have installment via debit card maybank ?
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:18 PM

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someone said Philips TV not very long lasting...
2years like that.. sure problems..

open up the TV... parts from others brand TV like LG, Samsung etc.
so basically they don't really produce the parts. mostly bought outside...
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post Oct 4 2020, 06:25 PM

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https://www.consumeraffairs.com/home_electr...ent&filter=none

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 11:18 AM)
someone said Philips TV not very long lasting...
2years like that.. sure problems..

open up the TV... parts from others brand TV like LG, Samsung etc.
so basically they don't really produce the parts. mostly bought outside...
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That is common for many tvs, not just Philips.

SONY and Panasonic both get their OLED panel from LG Display.

By next year, even Samsung is going to get their LCD panel from China manufacturers.


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post Oct 4 2020, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:25 PM)
This is from USA....different models there.

QUOTE(touristking @ Oct 4 2020, 06:49 PM)
That is common for many tvs, not just Philips.

SONY and Panasonic both get their OLED panel from LG Display.

By next year, even Samsung is going to get their LCD panel from China manufacturers.
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Excatly.

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post Oct 4 2020, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Oct 4 2020, 06:49 PM)
That is common for many tvs, not just Philips.

SONY and Panasonic both get their OLED panel from LG Display.

By next year, even Samsung is going to get their LCD panel from China manufacturers.
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Hmm...
Interesting...
So after this.. samsung from bad to worse 🤭😁
Previously 3 to 5 years... After getting China parts... 2 to 3 years only then 🤣
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:18 PM)
someone said Philips TV not very long lasting...
2years like that.. sure problems..

open up the TV... parts from others brand TV like LG, Samsung etc.
so basically they don't really produce the parts. mostly bought outside...
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someone suggest me Hisense tv 55A7400F , if good i might place an order from hisense official store via shopee this coming wednesday
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Oct 4 2020, 08:45 PM)
someone suggest me Hisense tv 55A7400F , if good i might place an order from hisense official store via shopee this coming wednesday
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Not sure about Hisense TV...
No experience on that...
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 08:52 PM)
Not sure about Hisense TV...
No experience on that...
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post Dec 1 2020, 09:45 AM

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Finally Philips Malaysia update they web page with 2020 new 4K UHD Android model.

It's 50PUT8115/68.....

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/50PUT8115_68...-led-android-tv

Android 10 (?), Hybrid Log Gamma, HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision & Atmos
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post Dec 4 2020, 07:11 PM

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i just bought 58PUT6604... my tv technician fren said.... only Samsung, LG & Sharp have their hardware to produce tv... the rest of the brand, rojak of this 3 brand and developed their own OS...
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QUOTE(chilskater @ Dec 4 2020, 07:11 PM)
i just bought 58PUT6604... my tv technician fren said.... only Samsung, LG & Sharp have their hardware to produce tv... the rest of the brand, rojak of this 3 brand and developed their own OS...
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Then your friend need to catch up with times . He hasn't been out of the cage for a long time .

Perhaps a B&W TV technician ?
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post Dec 5 2020, 12:34 PM

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The review for Philips oled 80x series are good..but hardly found any online shop selling it.
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post Dec 5 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Nikmon @ Dec 5 2020, 12:34 PM)
The review for Philips oled 80x series are good..but hardly found any online shop selling it.
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For future buyers....
80x.....remember "x" is meaning year version.

2.....2017
3.....2018
4.....2019
5.....2020

Btw,

Philips Singapore has 8 type of OLED and 22 Android versions
https://www.philips.com.sg/c-m-so/tv/latest...ED_SU&layout=36

Philips Malaysia has 0 OLED and 3 Android version. sad.gif
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post Dec 9 2020, 03:12 PM

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Android TV PUT8215 listed......75",70",65",55" and 50"

Big improvements from last and this year (until November) only 2 Android TV offered.
Now is 8 models (6 new)... drool.gif
Still OLED missing.... sad.gif

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post Dec 16 2020, 01:25 AM

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Hi guys thinking to get the 65put7374 model. Would you guys recommend it?
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post Dec 16 2020, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(kananthen @ Dec 16 2020, 01:25 AM)
Hi guys thinking to get the 65put7374 model. Would you guys recommend it?
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This is last year model.
New model 2020 is 65PUT8215/68

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/65PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv

But,if the price is OK, why not.
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Philips tv 1 year plus spoilt, now claim warranty.. Dunno need wait how long...
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post Jan 8 2021, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(instantpostlikes @ Jan 8 2021, 04:45 PM)
This Philips's model is extremely good than others. Its features is better than another model.
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Shopee and Lazada got listed.....

Philips 50PUT8215/68......RM2,449.00
Philips 55PUT8215/68......RM2,899.00

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/own-lorr...D8kCky&search=1
https://shopee.com.my/-Own-Lorry-Delivery-O...7838.4854702909
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/own-lorr...eTNZRo&search=1

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post Jan 15 2021, 09:35 PM

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looking at 50PUT6604.. isit many problem, fast spoilt?.. Any brand to rec for 50 inch around RM1.5-1.6K?
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Mar 23 2018, 10:29 PM)
i seen this brand too but is it good ?
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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Jun 13 2018, 04:56 PM)
my situation is different
the color/brightness have minimal change for HDMI input... that why i complaint it very bright when use Astro channel
but in android tv, it have drastic changes...
donno why it is uneven...

at the end i change the Back Light to 50% and Brightness 50%
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QUOTE(Yamy @ Aug 15 2020, 03:21 AM)
I am considering 70 inches 4K TV on Philips 70PUT6774 and Samsung 70RU7100, price difference is small (Samsung is around RM200 more expensive).

Which one is more value for money as i only use it to connect to my Desktop for Youtube and web browsing only. Please help to comment and suggest.
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Just bought old version 70put6774/68 model at RM3680 after getting shop voucher and free delivery from Courts Mall in Shopee.

Worth buying guys? Listed price at RM3999.

There is not much talking about this model.

Thanks
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post Jan 18 2021, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(hahakat88 @ Jan 15 2021, 09:35 PM)
looking at 50PUT6604.. isit many problem, fast spoilt?.. Any brand to rec for 50 inch around RM1.5-1.6K?
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Philips 50PUT8215/68...... thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(stasio @ Jan 8 2021, 05:03 PM)
Price go down...!!! shocking.gif ....~RM600

Very good price for model specification. Main contender for TCL P715.

Philips 50PUT8215/68......RM1,888.00
Philips 55PUT8215/68......RM2,298.00


QUOTE(ReneeRay @ Jan 18 2021, 08:02 PM)
Just bought old version 70put6774/68 model at RM3680 after getting shop voucher and free delivery from Courts Mall in Shopee.

Worth buying guys? Listed price at RM3999.

There is not much talking about this model.

Thanks
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Yea, good price. Same as here:
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/philips-...bRoCa-oQAvD_BwE

Is not old version....2020 line up.
Philips Malaysia brings 2021 models just a month+ ago. sad.gif

Google for model 70PUT6774 to found more info. /68 is Malaysia code.
Many forums arround the world.....with usefull info..new firmware,etc.....

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post Jan 19 2021, 04:36 PM

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Philips 55PUT8215/68 use what type of panel? IPS or VA?
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post Jan 19 2021, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 19 2021, 04:36 PM)
Philips 55PUT8215/68 use what type of panel? IPS or VA?
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VA , Direct LED.
To be precise....MVA (Multi-domain Vertical Alignment) panel.

Similar Philips 8xx5 series..
https://www.displaydb.com/tv/philips-58pus850512
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/b2611ca9

Malaysia web page:
https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jan 19 2021, 05:03 PM)
VA , Direct LED.
To be precise....MVA (Multi-domain Vertical Alignment) panel.

Similar Philips 8xx5 series..
https://www.displaydb.com/tv/philips-58pus850512
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/b2611ca9

Malaysia web page:
https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/55PUT8215_68...-led-android-tv
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Thanks.. looks like I am going to buy this one instead of Sharp 4TC60BK1X .
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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 19 2021, 05:04 PM)
Thanks.. looks like I am going to buy this one instead of Sharp 4TC60BK1X .
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I saw your post about Sharp.
My Sharp 6800X only Netflix is in HDR10, YouTube not despite spec. say yes. blush.gif
Philips 55PUT8215/68 for RM2.3K is good buy.

Edit:
I looking this series before I buy TCL 50C716, from Philips Singapore web page, but that time
not yet available here.

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QUOTE(stasio @ Jan 19 2021, 05:13 PM)
I saw your post about Sharp.
My Sharp 6800X only Netflix is in HDR10, YouTube not despite spec. say yes. blush.gif
Philips 55PUT8215/68 for RM2.3K is good buy.

Edit:
I looking this series before I buy TCL 50C716, from Philips Singapore web page, but that time
not yet available here.
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Hi Bro - between 55PUT8215 vs TCL 55P715. Which one would you choose for features and warranty? Btw would like to thank you for continuously sharing your knowledge with us. Really appreciate it. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 20 2021, 01:33 AM)
Hi Bro - between 55PUT8215 vs TCL 55P715. Which one would you choose for features and warranty? Btw would like to thank you for continuously sharing your knowledge with us. Really appreciate it. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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Hmm...is hard to say...each has + and - in spec.
Main thing is price..Philips dealers surprise with latest price in good way.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Jan 20 2021, 12:08 PM)
Hmm...is hard to say...each has + and - in spec.
Main thing is price..Philips dealers surprise with latest price in good way.
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Yeah, was looking at SG price and it's higher. (1k SGD) surprising that it's lower in MY.
My main concern is the accessibility of repair centers if the TV goes kaput.
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 20 2021, 02:11 PM)
Yeah, was looking at SG price and it's higher. (1k SGD)  surprising that it's lower in MY.
My main concern is the accessibility of repair centers if the TV goes kaput.
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According to support Philips MY web page, it's much better then TCL web page,
so I presume also servis...if need.....better no. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(stasio @ Jan 20 2021, 04:32 PM)
According to support  Philips MY web page, it's much better then TCL web page,
so I presume also servis...if need.....better no.  tongue.gif
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good observation! biggrin.gif

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btw, i saw this 55PUT7374 with ambilight.. now i'm confused whether go get 55PUT8215 or this.
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 20 2021, 10:27 PM)
btw, i saw this 55PUT7374 with ambilight.. now i'm confused whether go get 55PUT8215 or this.
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55PUT7374 is 2019 model.

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I already placed order for 55PUT8215 but unfortunately the Lazada seller informed me the stock will only available in March-2021. I have to change to 55PUT7374 since similar specification (with ambilight) because I need a new TV urgently - my current 32" Panasonic has started to show its' age.

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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 21 2021, 06:20 PM)
I already placed order for 55PUT8215 but unfortunately the Lazada seller informed me the stock will only available in March-2021. I have to change to 55PUT7374 since similar specification (with ambilight) because I need a new TV urgently - my current 32" Panasonic has started to show its' age.
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Also considering 7374 due to ambilight. This seller has -->

https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/elektrik-shi...annelSource=pdp
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 21 2021, 09:07 PM)
Also considering 7374 due to ambilight.  This seller has -->

https://www.lazada.com.my/shop/elektrik-shi...annelSource=pdp
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Yup I bought from this store. Currently on the way. Tomorrow will deliver she said.
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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 25 2021, 12:12 AM)
Yup I bought from this store. Currently on the way. Tomorrow will deliver she said.
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Awesome. I was actually waiting for their CNY sale... the price was 2468.. and they advertised as 2?68... was waiting at midnight and it was still 2468.. doh.gif
anyway, will wait for your review on the state of their delivery and quality of the tv bro. smile.gif
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 25 2021, 08:34 AM)
Awesome.  I was actually waiting for their CNY sale... the price was 2468.. and they advertised as 2?68...  was waiting at midnight and it was still 2468..  doh.gif
anyway, will wait for your review on the state of their delivery and quality of the tv bro. smile.gif
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Ok my 55PUT7374 arrived yesterday, I have tried youtube, Netflix (HD), downloaded MP4/MKV 720p/1080P movies, and played some games on my XBOX ONE X.
Man... this TV is awesome the upscaler works great! watching Netflix HD ( my Netflix acc is not 4k acc due to my current internet speed). Watching Bumblebee and all Michael Bay Transformers movies is visual treat. I can seel all the details on the robots and the scenery (may be due to HDR).
I tried watching downloaded 720P/1080P old movies like Drunken Master2, the upscaler did a very good job -I am satisfied.
The ambi-light feature is an awesome plus u can change the reaction based on visual or audio etc.
Of course, playing Forza Horizon 3/4 in its 4k glory is a new experience for me.
Yes! I confirm that this model supports HDR on all input!

Now I am trying to figure out to side load an APK for Android Tv stuff...
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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 26 2021, 11:22 AM)
Ok my 55PUT7374 arrived yesterday, I have tried youtube, Netflix (HD), downloaded MP4/MKV 720p/1080P movies, and played some games on my XBOX ONE X.
Man... this TV is awesome the upscaler works great! watching Netflix HD ( my Netflix acc is not 4k acc due to my current internet speed).  Watching Bumblebee and all Michael Bay Transformers movies is visual treat. I can seel all the details on the robots and the scenery (may be due to HDR).
I tried watching downloaded 720P/1080P old movies like Drunken Master2, the upscaler did a very good job -I am satisfied.
The ambi-light feature is an awesome plus u can change the reaction based on visual or audio etc.
Of course, playing Forza Horizon 3/4 in its 4k glory is a new experience for me.
Yes! I confirm that this model supports HDR on all input!

Now I am trying to figure out to side load an APK for Android Tv stuff...
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Awesome bro! How about delivery? Which seller you bought from?
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QUOTE(canaviso @ Jan 26 2021, 06:01 PM)
Awesome bro! How about delivery? Which seller you bought from?
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From the link you shared.. they use their own delivery fleet
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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Jan 26 2021, 06:22 PM)
From the link you shared.. they use their own delivery fleet
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Cool.. i'll place my order then. smile.gif
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Now itching to get a new TV.... looks like Phillips cheaper.... thinking of minimum 50".... with smart TV...

want to link up with apple TV later.... waiting for latest appleTV release....

recommendation please...
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Is Philips 50" 50PUT6604 any good?
https://shopee.com.my/PHILIPS-50-INCH-NETFL...7262.3128612712
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anyone know what is the different between 7374 and 8215?
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QUOTE(faizdtk @ Feb 5 2021, 02:10 AM)
Im using 58PUT6604
Actually they replaced this TV for me, as my previous TV image flickering after close to 1 year usage.
The first thing i noticed on this TV is slim bezel. Not sure if others are slimmer, but this TV bezel is slim.
Apart from that, just a normal TV.
The remote is so not user friendly. My previous Samsung remote is much better
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Hi guys,

Didn't want to start a whole new thread since this discussion is ongoing. Does anyone know when the 65PUT8215/68 will be available in
the local market? I have asked a few Philips dealers in KL and JB but none have been able to provide a firm answer. The 55 and 70 inch
versions are being sold by a few sellers online but no news about the 65 inch though ...

Cheers,
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Apr 18 2021, 01:08 AM)
Hi guys,

Didn't want to start a whole new thread since this discussion is ongoing. Does anyone know when the 65PUT8215/68 will be available in
the local market? I have asked a few Philips dealers in KL and JB but none have been able to provide a firm answer. The 55 and 70 inch
versions are being sold by a few sellers online but no news about the 65 inch though ...

Cheers,
V.
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Try contact Desa Home Theater. They might be able assist. Currently they having promo you can trade in your old TV to offset the purchase price.

I just bought from them 50PUT8215 and traded in my old LED TV. The new TV has very good picture sharpness and color. Worth to buy.
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Apr 25 2021, 01:42 PM)
Try contact Desa Home Theater. They might be able assist. Currently they having promo you can trade in your old TV to offset the purchase price.

I just bought from them 50PUT8215 and traded in my old LED TV. The new TV has very good picture sharpness and color. Worth to buy.
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I was thinking of getting this tv as well, how's your experience so far with it any pros and cons? Also any members here have experience with their after sales service? Do appreciate your feedback, thank you

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Hi guys, like to check what apps are avb on the philips smart tv, if its not android based
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I was thinking of getting this tv as well, how's your experience so far with it any pros and cons? Also any members here have experience with their after sales service? Do appreciate your feedback, thank you
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This model is an android tv. So you can practically install any apps from Google playstore. I installed unifi playtv and it works well with the philips remote controller. However was not able to find Astro apps in the playstore.

It also comes perintalled with youtube n Netflix. YouTube plays hdr video but I can't check Netflix as I don't have an account.

TV picture is sharp and detail and can upscale full HD to UHD. Not bad too wt the upscaled picture.

Sound can support Dolby Atmos and backward compatible to the other audio formats like DD5.1 and DTS. However one of my file in my USB pendrive when i play Dolby Digital Plus 7.1 there was video but no audio/sound. Not sure why.

Overall I'm happy wt this product and still tinkering on its other features. I don't have any cons except from the above that I've mentioned.

I can't comment on Desa after sales service but the installer (father n son team) who came to my house was very professional and did the initial setup and setting for me.

And one other thing i took up their extended 2+3 years warranty for my piece of mind. You can however opt not to take it up.
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Ok my 55PUT7374 arrived yesterday, I have tried youtube, Netflix (HD), downloaded MP4/MKV 720p/1080P movies, and played some games on my XBOX ONE X.
Man... this TV is awesome the upscaler works great! watching Netflix HD ( my Netflix acc is not 4k acc due to my current internet speed).  Watching Bumblebee and all Michael Bay Transformers movies is visual treat. I can seel all the details on the robots and the scenery (may be due to HDR).
I tried watching downloaded 720P/1080P old movies like Drunken Master2, the upscaler did a very good job -I am satisfied.
The ambi-light feature is an awesome plus u can change the reaction based on visual or audio etc.
Of course, playing Forza Horizon 3/4 in its 4k glory is a new experience for me.
Yes! I confirm that this model supports HDR on all input!

Now I am trying to figure out to side load an APK for Android Tv stuff...
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Hi do u know if the tv using ips or va screen? Does the screen reflective?
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Philips 8200 Series 4K Android TVs Now Available In Malaysia; Price Starts From RM2799

Philips has recently announced that its new 8200 series 4K Android TVs are now available in Malaysia. The new TVs, which sports the model name of PUT8215, consist of three different screen sizes: 50-inch, 55-inch, and the flagship 70-inch.

Each Philips 8200 TV variant is equipped with a UHD LED display that supports high  resolutions of up to 4K. Image quality is enhanced via the brand’s P5 Perfect Picture Engine with Dolby Vision support, which the TV’s screen to deliver more depth to details, crisp contrast, and vivid colours. Also oboard is the High Dynamic Range Plus feature for an optimised viewing experience for HDR10+ video formats.

Audio-wise, the new TVs come with dual 8W full-range Dolby Atmos-tuned speakers. With a combined output of 16W, the brand claims that the 8200 series’ speakers are capable of filling an entire room with well-balanced sound, while at the same time retaining the audio quality’s clarity, detail, and depth. Of course, if you wish to add a bit more “oomph” to your home cinema experience, each PUT8215 TV also comes with optical digital audio connectivity for external speakers.

Being Android-based, you can expect the new Philips 8200 TVs to feature several smart functionalities as well. Included are voice-based controls via Google Assistant, smart home management tools, and the ability to install additional Android apps via Google Play Store or Philips App Gallery. Streaming services such as YouTube and Netflix are also pre-installed on each model.

The 8200 series 4K Android TVs can be purchased through all authorised Philips distributors starting today. In terms of pricing, the 50-inch PUT8215 model retails at RM2,799, the 55-inch at RM3,199, while the 70-inch flagship is at RM6,499.






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Hi do u know if the tv using ips or va screen? Does the screen reflective?
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Hi, it's an IPS panel as confirmed by Philips Malaysia. I am still considering this model and waiting for the MCO to be over
to head on over to a showroom.

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PUT7374 is 2019 model and PUT8215 is 2020 model.

IPS or VA panels can check on:
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/brand/3750b
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I bought a 70inch Phillips 4k smart TV 5 months ago. Its working fine, am enjoying Netfilx & youtube daily. Picture is sharp and reasonable sound quality. Hooked up a sound bar and movies are fabulous now!

Initially I had this issue of auto shut down. TV for no reason would suddenly count down to shut off after a few hours. I figured the chip was somehow getting a shut down signal even without me asking for it. I decided to intervene during the shut down initiation. I used the remote to puch in another request as soon as the shut down started. The shut down would stop & TV continued to play. This happened a few time during the 1st month.

Now the auto shut off has disappeared. It was an internal chip setting I feel. TV is working perfectly fine now. This is a budget TV & good value for money - $3899/-
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Hi guys,

Anyone using Philips 8215 here? Can I get ur short review?

I am considering to purchase the 50 inch model. Tq
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Hi guys,

Anyone using Philips 8215 here? Can I get ur short review?

I am considering to purchase the 50 inch model. Tq
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I bought this model and gave a short review in post #55

After my last review, I got to test the preinstalled Netflix app. I can confirm all UHD, Dolby Vision, Surround 5.1 including Dolby Atmos movies and TV series are running perfectly on this TV. There is a setting in the TV where you can adjust Dolby Vision brightness setting when Dolby Vision's source is played.

There was 1 firmware update recently but I did not notice any changes to the UI or features of the TV.

Also tested the ARC feature working on its HDMI input. However there is no eARC. I'm hoping a future firmware upgrade will enable this feature.

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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jun 25 2021, 12:08 PM)
I bought this model and gave a short review in post #55

After my last review, I got to test the preinstalled Netflix app. I can confirm all UHD, Dolby Vision, Surround 5.1 including Dolby Atmos movies and TV series are running perfectly on this TV. There is a setting in the TV where you can adjust Dolby Vision brightness setting when Dolby Vision's source is played.

There was 1 firmware update recently but I did not notice any changes to the UI or features of the TV.

Also tested the ARC feature working on its HDMI input. However there is no eARC. I'm hoping a future firmware upgrade will enable this feature.
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Thank you bro. Exactly the things I want to know.

I ordered this model. Awaiting delivery now.
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Thank you bro. Exactly the things I want to know.

I ordered this model. Awaiting delivery now.
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Welcome bro

Enjoy your new TV when it arrives
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jun 25 2021, 12:08 PM)
I bought this model and gave a short review in post #55

After my last review, I got to test the preinstalled Netflix app. I can confirm all UHD, Dolby Vision, Surround 5.1 including Dolby Atmos movies and TV series are running perfectly on this TV. There is a setting in the TV where you can adjust Dolby Vision brightness setting when Dolby Vision's source is played.

There was 1 firmware update recently but I did not notice any changes to the UI or features of the TV.

Also tested the ARC feature working on its HDMI input. However there is no eARC. I'm hoping a future firmware upgrade will enable this feature.
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I read your review. Thanks.

I’ve waffling between this and the Hisense. But with a 1K+ price difference, I might go Philips as there are many offers online at the moment. Android is good but I have an Amazon Firestick and watch everything on that.

How’s the Dolby Vision?
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jun 25 2021, 12:08 PM)
I bought this model [Philips PUT8215]  and gave a short review in post #55
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Also tested the ARC feature working on its HDMI input. However there is no eARC. I'm hoping a future firmware upgrade will enable this feature.
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eARC is a HDMI 2.1 feature. It's a hardware limitation issue not a firmware issue. If the port and chipset on the Philips PUT8215 are made to handle HDMI 2.1, then it can be solved via firmware. But I think if it was already capable, they would have enabled it at launch.

You can still feed Dolby Digital Plus (Atmos for streaming) with ARC though.

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 30 2021, 01:45 AM)
I’ve waffling between this and the Hisense. But with a 1K+ price difference, I might go Philips as there are many offers online at the moment. Android is good but I have an Amazon Firestick and watch everything on that.
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That's a sensible solution. Also because the hardware in the TVs can become obsolete, an external media player is better in the long run.

For some people who don't know much about Android and all that stuff, an all-in-one solution fits their needs.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 30 2021, 03:17 PM)
That's a sensible solution. Also because the hardware in the TVs can become obsolete, an external media player is better in the long run.

For some people who don't know much about Android and all that stuff, an all-in-one solution fits their needs.
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So I contacted Seng Heng or SenQ WhatsApp line and asked about the 55PUT8215/68 they just rudely said, oh that Philips model we don’t have. I asked if they can order cos they have other models. Well, typical Malaysian customer service response. No, cannot.

I’ve signed up for the pre sale Hisense 7G ULED ... scr*w it. I’ll pay the RM3.4K (for the 55”) for this.

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 30 2021, 10:28 PM)
So I contacted Seng Heng or SenQ WhatsApp line and asked about the 55PUT8215/68 they just rudely said, oh that Philips model we don’t have. I asked if they can order cos they have other models. Well, typical Malaysian customer service response. No, cannot.

I’ve signed up for the pre sale Hisense 7G ULED ... scr*w it. I’ll pay the RM3.4K (for the 55”) for this.
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Where you sign up? i looking for U6G already enough!! PM me!
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Where you sign up? i looking for U6G already enough!! PM me!
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 30 2021, 10:43 PM)
Done sign up! getting the 65" model =D
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jun 30 2021, 01:45 AM)
I read your review. Thanks.

I’ve waffling between this and the Hisense. But with a 1K+ price difference, I might go Philips as there are many offers online at the moment. Android is good but I have an Amazon Firestick and watch everything on that.

How’s the Dolby Vision?
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If the source is Dolby Vision, the TV will give an indication at the bottom right of the screen during first few seconds of play (if in the setting you have turn on Dolby Vision notification). There is also 5 different style of Dolby Vision settings you can choose which are HDR Personal, HDR Vivid, Dolby Vision Bright, Dolby Vision Dark & HDR Game. I find the Dolby Vision Bright to be most suitable for my liking. For me, the HDR Vivid seems too bright and the colors kind of 'cold'. I normally prefer warmer colors and i choose movie style setting for all my other sources.

I can see all the details for DV source movies even those in dark scene. An example is the tomb scene while watching Netflix Warrior Nun Season 1 Episode 10. The upscaling to 4k UHD also works well on 1080p source or even 720p source. This I tested watching the movie The Father downloaded into my media player connected to TV thru HDMI. At that time my picture style settings was set at Natural and the picture appears very sharp and kind of 'cold'.

Btw i bought the TV at Desa Home physical store at Kepong during their promo for trade-in. You can find their online store in Lz and Shopee. During my browsing at their store, I did compare this TV to other brands of equivalent value including Hisense model (i can't remember what model). The colors were beautifully produced on both TVs which I think the TVs are all set to showroom mode, so kind of difficult to asses in normal living room condition. But i did read somewhere here in another forum that Hisense TV's color reproduction is intentionally 'brighten up' and is not tuned to some kind of 'set' color band advocated by experts. That point actually put me off from buying Hisense TV and also at that time, the Hisense model did not have DV support. Anyway one man's meat is another man's poison. So the choice is yours.


QUOTE(writesimply @ Jun 30 2021, 03:17 PM)
eARC is a HDMI 2.1 feature. It's a hardware limitation issue not a firmware issue. If the port and chipset on the Philips PUT8215 are made to handle HDMI 2.1, then it can be solved via firmware. But I think if it was already capable, they would have enabled it at launch.

You can still feed Dolby Digital Plus (Atmos for streaming) with ARC though.

That's a sensible solution. Also because the hardware in the TVs can become obsolete, an external media player is better in the long run.

For some people who don't know much about Android and all that stuff, an all-in-one solution fits their needs.
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Oic. Thank you for the info. Seems I will have to settle with ARC only.

Yes Dolby Digital Plus (with Atmos) working flawlessly with ARC. However Dolby TrueHD source will not output any sound thru ARC (or TV speakers).

For me, I prefer the TV to be equiped with Android rather than their proprietary OS. It gives much more freedom to download apps from Google playstore.

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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 2 2021, 04:42 PM)
If the source is Dolby Vision, the TV will give an indication at the bottom right of the screen during first few seconds of play (if in the setting you have turn on Dolby Vision notification).

Cool.

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There is also 5 different style of Dolby Vision settings you can choose which are HDR Personal, HDR Vivid, Dolby Vision Bright, Dolby Vision Dark & HDR Game.

I think you mean HDR here - Personal, Vivid and Game. Dolby Vision has Bright and Dark.

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I find the Dolby Vision Bright to be most suitable for my liking. For me, the HDR Vivid seems too bright and the colors kind of 'cold'. I normally prefer warmer colors and i chose movie style setting for all my other sources.

I can see all the details for DV source movies even those in dark scene. An example is the tomb scene while watching Netflix Warrior Nun Season 1 Episode 10.

I don't own the Philips but believe it works like this.

If you are playing Dolby Vision content, the Picture mode will go to your preferred DV mode, which is DV Bright. But if you switch to HDR Personal, it'll still play but outside of the DV intent.

If you're playing HDR content, then it'd go to HDR Personal or whichever preset you've selected.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Play a DV content then see which Picture setting it is on. Then switch the Picture settings to something else to see if it's possible.

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The upscaling to 4k UHD also works well on 1080p source or even 720p source. This I tested watching the movie My Father downloaded into my media player connected to TV thru HDMI. At that time my picture style settings was set at Natural and the picture appears very sharp and kind of 'cold'.

I think you can change the color temperature to Warm manually. It might be saved in the Natural setting or it might be automatically in the User. Different manufacturer does this differently where the presets are not changeable and gives you User settings instead.

Good to hear that the upscaling is very good.

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But i did read somewhere here in another forum that Hisense TV's color reproduction is intentionally 'brighten up' and is not tuned to some kind of 'set' color band advocated by experts. That point actually put me off from buying Hisense TV and also at that time, the Hisense model did not have DV support.

I don't think it's just Hisense that does this before Dolby came in. Brighter picture sells even when they screws with the content.

From what I've read, TVs with Dolby Vision capability doesn't brighten up the picture when you're playing DV content, even if the TV would normally do that with other content. TVs will play them at the right DV level. If DV is asking 800 nits, it should get 800 nits or a tone-mapped frame/scene.

This happens only when you're playing DV content. Seems like Dolby is pretty strict about this. DV's dynamic metadata can be set on a frame-by-frame setting, instead of just scene-by-scene. If Dolby allows TV manufacturers to screw with the DV certified products, then the certification is meaningless.

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Seems I will have to settle with ARC only.

Yes Dolby Digital Plus (with Atmos) working flawlessly with ARC. However Dolby TrueHD  source will not output any sound thru ARC (or TV speakers).

If you're using Kodi on the Philips itself, then you may need to strip the DD/DD+ content from the THD signal in Kodi's settings. Then the DD/DD+ signal can be passed through the HDMI.

If you still want DD THD/DTS MA, you need to use a DAtmos receiver and your media player be connected to the receiver.

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For me, I prefer the TV to be equiped with Android rather than their proprietary OS. It gives much more freedom to download apps from Google playstore.
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I agree. I think TV manufacturers should do like PC market does. Offer TVs at a lower price if it's using their OS but if you want Android, you can top up and they'll do a firmware upgrade.

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New 2021 models (PUT8516 and PUT7406) start to appear on Philips web page......

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#layout=36


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New 2021 models (PUT8516 and PUT7406) start to appear on Philips web page......

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#layout=36
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SenHeng will say, these models they don’t sell.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 2 2021, 06:44 PM)
Cool.
I think you mean HDR here - Personal, Vivid and Game. Dolby Vision has Bright and Dark.
I don't own the Philips but believe it works like this.

If you are playing Dolby Vision content, the Picture mode will go to your preferred DV mode, which is DV Bright. But if you switch to HDR Personal, it'll still play but outside of the DV intent.

If you're playing HDR content, then it'd go to HDR Personal or whichever preset you've selected.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Play a DV content then see which Picture setting it is on. Then switch the Picture settings to something else to see if it's possible.
I think you can change the color temperature to Warm manually. It might be saved in the Natural setting or it might be automatically in the User. Different manufacturer does this differently where the presets are not changeable and gives you User settings instead.

Good to hear that the upscaling is very good.
I don't think it's just Hisense that does this before Dolby came in. Brighter picture sells even when they screws with the content.

From what I've read, TVs with Dolby Vision capability doesn't brighten up the picture when you're playing DV content, even if the TV would normally do that with other content. TVs will play them at the right DV level. If DV is asking 800 nits, it should get 800 nits or a tone-mapped frame/scene.

This happens only when you're playing DV content. Seems like Dolby is pretty strict about this. DV's dynamic metadata can be set on a frame-by-frame setting, instead of just scene-by-scene. If Dolby allows TV manufacturers to screw with the DV certified products, then the certification is meaningless.
If you're using Kodi on the Philips itself, then you may need to strip the DD/DD+ content from the THD signal in Kodi's settings. Then the DD/DD+ signal can be passed through the HDMI.

If you still want DD THD/DTS MA, you need to use a DAtmos receiver and your media player be connected to the receiver.
I agree. I think TV manufacturers should do like PC market does. Offer TVs at a lower price if it's using their OS but if you want Android, you can top up and they'll do a firmware upgrade.
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Shoppee having sale now. So want to take advantage of sales..
Bit the bullet. Bought the 55” Philips Android.

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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 2 2021, 04:42 PM)
If the source is Dolby Vision, the TV will give an indication at the bottom right of the screen during first few seconds of play (if in the setting you have turn on Dolby Vision notification). There is also 5 different style of Dolby Vision settings you can choose which are HDR Personal, HDR Vivid, Dolby Vision Bright, Dolby Vision Dark & HDR Game. I find the Dolby Vision Bright to be most suitable for my liking. For me, the HDR Vivid seems too bright and the colors kind of 'cold'. I normally prefer warmer colors and i choose movie style setting for all my other sources.

I can see all the details for DV source movies even those in dark scene. An example is the tomb scene while watching Netflix Warrior Nun Season 1 Episode 10. The upscaling to 4k UHD also works well on 1080p source or even 720p source. This I tested watching the movie The Father downloaded into my media player connected to TV thru HDMI. At that time my picture style settings was set at Natural and the picture appears very sharp and kind of 'cold'.

Btw i bought the TV at Desa Home physical store at Kepong during their promo for trade-in. You can find their online store in Lz and Shopee. During my browsing at their store, I did compare this TV to other brands of equivalent value including Hisense model (i can't remember what model). The colors were beautifully produced on both TVs which I think the TVs are all set to showroom mode, so kind of difficult to asses in normal living room condition. But i did read somewhere here in another forum that Hisense TV's color reproduction is intentionally 'brighten up' and is not tuned to some kind of 'set' color band advocated by experts. That point actually put me off from buying Hisense TV and also at that time, the Hisense model did not have DV support. Anyway one man's meat is another man's poison. So the choice is yours.    
Oic. Thank you for the info. Seems I will have to settle with ARC only.

Yes Dolby Digital Plus (with Atmos) working flawlessly with ARC. However Dolby TrueHD  source will not output any sound thru ARC (or TV speakers).

For me, I prefer the TV to be equiped with Android rather than their proprietary OS. It gives much more freedom to download apps from Google playstore.
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Thank you for your input. I just bought mine through Shoppee. The 55” was going for RM2538 + 24 delivery. Don’t have a soundbar (yet). Now only have simple Mission tower speakers plus centre and subwoofer. My apartment is too noisy with cars outside to enjoy full Dolby Atmos. Maybe in time I’d invest in a soundbar if I move.

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 5 2021, 01:06 PM)
Below quote : “.. New 2021 models (PUT8516 and PUT7406) start to appear on Philips web page......

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#layout=36..”

I went to Philips site, and noticed something..

The PUT8215/68 2020 models TV can show PAL, NTSC & SECAM, whereas the 2021 models PUT8516 models only show PAL & SECAM.

I have a US DVD player. Wonder if it’ll cause issues?

Lazada, Shoppee having sale now. So want to take advantage of sales..
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The issue would be no video would be displayed from the DVD player. Just powering up, you won't be able to see the menu because that would be in NTSC.

However, if you have a BD player that can upscale DVD content to 720p, then you can play NTSC DVDs without a problem.

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The issue would be no video would be displayed from the DVD player. Just powering up, you won't be able to see the menu because that would be in NTSC.

However, if you have a BD player that can upscale DVD content to 720p, then you can play NTSC DVDs without a problem.
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I just bought the older 2020 model with PAL, SECAM and NTSC. Can’t find the newer model on Shoppee.

The Blu-ray DVD player has some internal NTSC->PAL conversion and the newly acquired 4K Blu-ray player might have the same thing. But as I’ve the TV that can display NTSC, I hope it will resolve the problem. The Blu-ray player is multi system DVD and Blu-Ray ( I have some UK Region B Blu-ray Discs). The 4K Blu-Ray is strictly Region A. Both I bought from USA as they were so much cheaper than Malaysia... and get this, the SONY players are both Made in Malaysia!

Thank you for your expertise and know how in helping me these past few weeks.
Hisense’s loss. Philips’ gain.

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 5 2021, 04:01 PM)
Now only have simple Mission tower speakers plus centre and subwoofer. My apartment is too noisy with cars outside to enjoy full Dolby Atmos. Maybe in time I’d invest in a soundbar if I move.
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Ideally you get the same Mission speaker range for your surrounds and get an Atmos receiver. See if you can find Mission bookshelf speakers second hand.

If you can't find any and you still want a surround sound for cheap... devil.gif

1) Buy a new Atmos/DTS-X/Auro 5.1/2.4/2 4K receiver that fits your budget.

2) Keep the Mission Towers for stereo playback. Set it as Speaker B setup. Definitely keep the subwoofer. Retire the center speaker.

3) Get 5/7/9 of these.

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They are Dayton Audio Exciter 4 Ohm 40 watt.

4) Get 5/7/9 of these.
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These are foam insulation boards.

5) Build yourself DML speakers for surround sound.




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SenHeng will say, these models they don’t sell.
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LOL! I think most retailers will say that. I wanted the 65PUT8215 and was sent on a round-around until I finally found out Philips
is not making the 65 inch version available in Malaysia. So it's either the 50/55 inch or the large 70 inch version which is just too
large for my living room built-in cabinet. 65PUT7374 is an alternative but it's from their 2019 range and I am just wondering if I
should just wait for the 2021 range to come in sad.gif

Cheers,
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Ideally you get the same Mission speaker range for your surrounds and get an Atmos receiver. See if you can find Mission bookshelf speakers second hand.

If you can't find any and you still want a surround sound for cheap...  devil.gif

1) Buy a new Atmos/DTS-X/Auro 5.1/2.4/2 4K receiver that fits your budget.

2) Keep the Mission Towers for stereo playback. Set it as Speaker B setup. Definitely keep the subwoofer. Retire the center speaker.

3) Get 5/7/9 of these.

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They are Dayton Audio Exciter 4 Ohm 40 watt.

4) Get 5/7/9 of these.
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These are foam insulation boards.

5) Build yourself DML speakers for surround sound.


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Yes I will upgrade to the Onkyo Receiver with ATMOS you recommended. I have an older Onkyo now. I’ll do the side speakers eventually. But won’t bother with sound proofing as it’s a rented apartment.

Again, thank you for your expertise, and patience. You’re an audio visual expert! Should buy you a meal next time I’m at wherever you are! I’m in Penang!
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Yes I will upgrade to the Onkyo Receiver with ATMOS you recommended. I have an older Onkyo now. I’ll do the side speakers eventually.
The side speakers?

The package I recommended is a 5.1.2 package. You set it up as a 5.1 because the ceiling speakers is already part of the front stereo speakers.

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But won’t bother with sound proofing as it’s a rented apartment.
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The insulation foam is not for sound proofing. You need to watch the Youtube video I linked to.

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Again, thank you for your expertise, and patience. You’re an audio visual expert! Should buy you a meal next time I’m at wherever you are! I’m in Penang!
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I'm not an expert. I just know enough for people looking to have mid- to low-end budget stuff.

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The side speakers?

The package I recommended is a 5.1.2 package. You set it up as a 5.1 because the ceiling speakers is already part of the front stereo speakers.

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The insulation foam is not for sound proofing. You need to watch the Youtube video I linked to.

I'm not an expert. I just know enough for people looking to have mid- to low-end budget stuff.

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Ok. Will watch video. But if it’s DIY, forget it. I can’t even glue matchsticks together!🤪

You had recommended the Onkyo HT-S5805 5.1.2CH Dolby Atmos setup. It’s on Shoppee for RM3995. But I’ll just buy the receiver, if I can find it and the extra two side speakers. My sofa is against a wall, and there really isn’t any room on either side..soi might need to be imaginative as to where the placement will be.
What speakers have top ceiling reflecting speakers?

I like the Onkyo receivers (also made in Malaysia but more expensive here than the USA)... as it has HDMI setups.

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Ok. Will watch video. But if it’s DIY, forget it. I can’t even glue matchsticks together!🤪


Matchsticks and glue requires patience and precision. biggrin.gif

What I was giving instructions to is basically DIY Distributed Mode Loudspeaker or DMLs.

1) Cut the foam boards' edges.
2) Sand them.
3) Screw pegs to hang them.
4) Place the audio exciter onto the board. It comes with stickers.

The YouTube video explains in great detail the process of discovery of the best practices of making one. It's long and fascinating.

This one is shorter at about 15 minutes. You can skip to the end to watch the results and go back to watch the basic steps.


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You had recommended the Onkyo HT-S5805 5.1.2CH Dolby Atmos setup. It’s on Shoppee for RM3995. But I’ll just buy the receiver, if I can find it and the extra two side speakers.
The Onkyo HT-S5805 is a speaker and receiver set. The receiver alone is the HT-R494. But it is not sold separately.

If you're looking to buy just the receiver, look for one that's 5.1.2 or 7.2 minimum with Atmos and DTS-X capability. Also compare the receiver that you have with the one you intend on buying. The power requirement should be the same or slightly higher.

Too low on power and the receiver will burn up if you play it too loud. Too high on power and the speakers will blow.

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My sofa is against a wall, and there really isn’t any room on either side..soi might need to be imaginative as to where the placement will be.
That's not ideal but you work with what you have.

My suggestion is to move the sofa half a meter off the wall. Then place the surround speakers behind the sofa, either on speaker stands or a rack. The speakers have to be at about ear level.

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What speakers have top ceiling reflecting speakers?
The front stereo ones in the Onkyo HT-S5805. The top of it has speakers acting as the height reflective speakers.

There are height reflective speakers that are placed on top of the fronts. Or you can buy the same surround sound speakers and either aim it at the ceiling or hang it from the ceiling.

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I like the Onkyo receivers (also made in Malaysia but more expensive here than the USA)... as it has HDMI setups.
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What do you mean by "HDMI setups"?
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Jul 5 2021, 04:45 PM)
LOL! I think most retailers will say that. I wanted the 65PUT8215 and was sent on a round-around until I finally found out Philips
is not making the 65 inch version available in Malaysia. So it's either the 50/55 inch or the large 70 inch version which is just too
large for my living room built-in cabinet. 65PUT7374 is an alternative but it's from their 2019 range and I am just wondering if I
should just wait for the 2021 range to come in  sad.gif

Cheers,
V.
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Philips Customer service says 2021 models will come at the end of September..(maybe if MCO still on). So I decided to buy the 55” 55PUT8215/68 2020 version as the 2020 model can play PAL, NTSC and SECAM. I’ve some French DVDs about!

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I bought this model and gave a short review in post #55

After my last review, I got to test the preinstalled Netflix app. I can confirm all UHD, Dolby Vision, Surround 5.1 including Dolby Atmos movies and TV series are running perfectly on this TV. There is a setting in the TV where you can adjust Dolby Vision brightness setting when Dolby Vision's source is played.

There was 1 firmware update recently but I did not notice any changes to the UI or features of the TV.

Also tested the ARC feature working on its HDMI input. However there is no eARC. I'm hoping a future firmware upgrade will enable this feature.
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I just realised that there is no instructions manual other than a Quick Set Up guide.

Do you know what the differences are between the side HDMI plug on the side and the other 3 at the back? They all say ARC. So no output to soundbar eventually? I’m currently using the optical audio output to my receiver/amplifier. Is this cable enough for Dolby Atmos?

What are the two USBs for?

I find that there’s a slight brightened hue at three areas on the left side and two at the top of the screen in dark mode, but disappears not perfect but slightly annoying.

I’m using Standard or Natural Does boy Vision setting. Movie tended to darken it a little.

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I just realised that there is no instructions manual other than a Quick Set Up guide.

Do you know what the differences are between the side HDMI plug on the side and the other 3 at the back? They all say ARC. So no output to soundbar eventually? I’m currently using the optical audio output to my receiver/amplifier. Is this cable enough for Dolby Atmos?

What are the two USBs for?

I find that there’s a slight brightened hue at three areas on the left side and two at the top of the screen in dark mode, but disappears  not perfect but slightly annoying.

I’m using Standard or Natural Does boy Vision setting. Movie tended to darken it a little.
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First thing first.....congrats on your purchase

They don't provide hardcopy manuals which I guess is trying to be environment friendly. All the instructions and help is set inside the TV. When you press setting, at the bottom left to see there is Help which you then press the blue button.

You can also download the manual from their website and print it out like what I did.

All 4 HDMI inputs are the same with ARC support. So if your receiver or soundbar support ARC HDMI output, then the sound from TV will be channeled to those equipment. But do remember to go to General Settings > Easylink and select On for ARC to work. Also go to All Settings > Sound > Advanced > Audio out, and ensure HDMI sound system is selected.

As stated in the manual, SPDIF output (Digital Audio Out) will be disabled when streaming Dolby Digital Plus content. So I'm not sure if you will get sound from the optical output when you play Dolby Atmos content. For your info, I'm using HDMI ARC.

The USB at the back is 2.0 while the side USB is 3.0
You can link an air mouse using USB 2.0 and hook up a USB HDD to the USB 3.0

I don't find any bright hues on my TV. Maybe you can post snapshots of the problem here to explain what you see.

Since my last comment, I've have fine tuned the picture setting myself to be slightly warmer but using the Natural style setting when playing HDR content. When I play Dolby Vision content, it automatically goes to Dolby Vision Bright.

Hope my explanation helps you to understand the workings of your new TV. Some of those above I experiment it myself like setting the picture quality to my desired viewing preference.

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First thing first.....congrats on your purchase

They don't provide hardcopy manuals which I guess is trying to be environment friendly. All the instructions and help is set inside the TV. When you press setting, at the bottom left to see there is Help which you then press the blue button.

You can also download the manual from their website and print it out like what I did.

All 4 HDMI inputs are the same with ARC support. So if your receiver or soundbar support ARC HDMI output, then the sound from TV will be channeled to those equipment. But do remember to go to General Settings > Easylink and select On for ARC to work. Also go to All Settings > Sound > Advanced > Audio out, and ensure HDMI sound system is selected.

As stated in the manual, SPDIF output (Digital Audio Out) will be disabled when streaming Dolby Digital Plus content. So I'm not sure if you will get sound from the optical output when you play Dolby Atmos content. For your info, I'm using HDMI ARC.

The USB at the back is 2.0 while the side USB is 3.0
You can link an air mouse using USB 2.0 and hook up a USB HDD to the USB 3.0

I don't find any bright hues on my TV. Maybe you can post snapshots of the problem here to explain what you see.

Since my last comment, I've have fine tuned the picture setting myself to be slightly warmer but using the Natural style setting when playing HDR content. When I play Dolby Vision content, it automatically goes to Dolby Vision Bright.

Hope my explanation helps you to understand the workings of your new TV. Some of those above I experiment it myself like setting the picture quality to my desired viewing preference.
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I had a call from a very nice Philips Customer Service agent who explained what I needed to know...although you did a better job in detail! So, thank you !

The slight bright hues on the side and top of the screen is normal, the CS agent said. It’s very slight. But he said if it gets brighter and bigger, contact Service.

Can the Digital Audio output handle ATMOS Dolby? Right now I don’t have a receiver that has Dolby Atmos yet. Just True Dolby.

But if I’m playing thru the Blu-ray player, the sound will come from there to the receiver. The only time is playing Netflix. Does any movie have 4K Dolby Atmos that can go on the Optical audio cable?

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Philips Customer service says 2021 models will come at the end of September..(maybe if MCO still on). So I decided to buy the 55” 55PUT8215/68 2020 version  as the 2020 model can play PAL, NTSC and SECAM. I’ve some French DVDs about!
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I think that makes a great choice since you have all 3 standards covered. I spent a few months reading up and finally thought the 65PUT8215/68
will be the best choice. It's an updated version of the 65PUT7374/68 model from the 2019 range without the Ambilight feature so that works for
me. Philips MY CS gave me a few retailers to talk to and each of them came back finally saying the 65 inch version will not be sold in Malaysia. I
find it strange as it's actually available just across the Causeway but somehow Philips is only selling the 50, 55 and 70 inch models here. Looking
at the way things are going, they might do the same with the 2021 range as well.


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I think that makes a great choice since you have all 3 standards covered. I spent a few months reading up and finally thought the 65PUT8215/68
will be the best choice. It's an updated version of the 65PUT7374/68 model from the 2019 range without the Ambilight feature so that works for
me. Philips MY CS gave me a few retailers to talk to and each of them came back finally saying the 65 inch version will not be sold in Malaysia. I
find it strange as it's actually available just across the Causeway but somehow Philips is only selling the 50, 55 and 70 inch models here. Looking
at the way things are going, they might do the same with the 2021 range as well.
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May I know what made you to choose philips over samsung and Sony?
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Can the Digital Audio output handle ATMOS Dolby? Right now I don’t have a receiver that has Dolby Atmos yet. Just True Dolby.

But if I’m playing thru the Blu-ray player, the sound will come from there to the receiver. The only time is playing Netflix. Does any movie have 4K Dolby Atmos that can go on the Optical audio cable?
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You'd think fiber optic would have more bandwidth and be faster than cable. And it is when used in servers. However, the standards for TOSLINK (TOShiba LINK) or SP-DIF audio does not allow that. It caps at 1.5 Mbps. That's just enough to carry the full DTS signal on DVD.

Dolby Atmos has two flavors : Embedded in Dolby Digital Plus maxed at 6.14 Mbps and embedded in Dolby TrueHD at 18 Mbps.

Listen to Aspick. If all four HDMI ports are ARC, then you can use any of the ports to send audio back to the receiver via HDMI. However, use the port that you are least likely to plug and unplug so that you don't have to mess with it anymore.

Right now you can just plug it in like this.
BD/media player -> Philips <- ARC -> Dolby TrueHD/DTS HDMA receiver.

But I wouldn't do that if you are planning to upgrade to an Atmos/DTS-X/Aero receiver. You don't want to be rearranging the HDMI cables when you get the receiver. It's much easier to plug all the HDMI cables into the receiver than it is to the TV.
BD/media player -> Dolby Atmos/TrueHD DTS HDMA/X receiver <- ARC -> Philips

If you get your setup right, you should be able to get Dolby Digital Plus light up on your receiver when playing Netflix on the TV's app. And Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA will light up on your receiver when you use your BD player.
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Price..... biggrin.gif
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So philips 8215 would be equivalent to samsung AU9000 and Sony x90j?
Or the lower end models..

Pls correct me wrong.. smile.gif
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So philips 8215 would be equivalent to samsung AU9000 and Sony x90j?
Or the lower end models..

Pls correct me wrong.. smile.gif
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I didn't say any model.
Let say mid (high low) -range.
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Can the Digital Audio output handle ATMOS Dolby? Right now I don’t have a receiver that has Dolby Atmos yet. Just True Dolby.

But if I’m playing thru the Blu-ray player, the sound will come from there to the receiver. The only time is playing Netflix. Does any movie have 4K Dolby Atmos that can go on the Optical audio cable?
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As what @writesimply said, i presume you will not be able to output Dolby Atmos thru the digital audio output. However I can confirm Dolby Atmos able to be output thru HDMI ARC even though my receiver does not support Atmos. Just make sure you set the Digital out format to "Multichannel" or "Stereo".

If you have a premium Netflix account, there will be plenty of Dolby Vision + Atmos sources to watch. You can try playing them and report here if there is sound coming out thru digital audio output after setting the Digital out format as above.

QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 8 2021, 09:21 PM)
Dolby Atmos has two flavors : Embedded in Dolby Digital Plus maxed at 6.14 Mbps and embedded in Dolby TrueHD at 18 Mbps.

Right now you can just plug it in like this.
BD/media player -> Philips <- ARC -> Dolby TrueHD/DTS HDMA receiver.

It's much easier to plug all the HDMI cables into the receiver than it is to the TV.
BD/media player -> Dolby Atmos/TrueHD DTS HDMA/X receiver <- ARC -> Philips

If you get your setup right, you should be able to get Dolby Digital Plus light up on your receiver.
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I tried both flavours. Only Atmos embedded inside Dolby Digital Plus content able to output sound thru the TV speakers or HDMI ARC (in 5.1 format which sadly is because it is HDMI 2.0 and not 2.1). Apparently this TV does not support Dolby TrueHD content.

I agree the 2nd method of plugging is easier and better in handling complex audio sources like Dolby TrueHD.

However in my case due to my receiver's HDMI output was damaged by lightning, I found an alternative method to continue using the receiver to receive audio from the same source equipment. Below is setup of my arrangement.
Source equipments - > HDMI Matrix 4x2 Switch Splitter Arc - > TV (Output A) & Receiver (Output B)

In my setup above, I get all the Dolby and DTS audio formats going into my receiver to be output into my 6.1 speakers
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May I know what made you to choose philips over samsung and Sony?
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Hahahaha! As Stasio said, price being the primary factor. I don't have an issue with Samsung but I dislike how some of their entry + mid
range models tend to look straight out of the box. I personally feel their color profiles are overly-saturated and contrast is over-enhanced
but that's just my personal view. I'm sure with a bit of adjustment and tinkering this can be fixed but the Philips P5 engine (though it's an
older gen in the 7374 and 8215 models) tends to be way ahead of the processors on related Samsung / LG models. Can't really say much
about Sony but if budget permitted, I would have gone for the X9000H which is a FALD TV.



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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 9 2021, 12:09 AM)
I tried both flavours. Only Atmos embedded inside Dolby Digital Plus content able to output sound thru the TV speakers or HDMI ARC (in 5.1 format which sadly is because it is HDMI 2.0 and not 2.1).


Regarding "5.1 format" : Dolby Digital Plus can do 7.2.4 because that's the Atmos speaker configuration. It's a lossy compression, unlike Dolby TrueHD. Dolby made sure that there's enough space to insert the Atmos metadata inside a Dolby Digital stream to make it a Dolby Atmos/Digital Plus stream.

Technically ARC doesn't have enough bandwidth to just transmit Dolby TrueHD alone. But at 18 Mbps, that's the limit for HDMI 2.0. ARC being a two-way connection cannot sustain this.

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Apparently this TV does not support Dolby TrueHD content.

TVs sold in Malaysia has to comply with the DVB-Terrestrial/Satellite/Cable standard because that's what the government adopted. Most of Europe and the world does too. Part of that is the audio codec it must decode and that is AAC, MP-3 and AC-3 aka Dolby Digital. The mandatory decoding has to be stereo. Multichannel decoding is not mandatory so no Dolby TrueHD support for DVB.

However, inside a Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Digital Plus stream has a Dolby Digital 5.1 stream. And inside that has a mixdown Dolby Digital 2.0 stream. The Dolby decoder in TVs can look at the stream and ignore everything else and just decode the 2.0 stream.

In short, you can connect a BD player to the TV and play a BD with Dolby TrueHD. The TV will decode a stereo signal for you.

DTS is not a mandatory spec. But I think most TVs have the decoder in there as well and again, just in stereo.

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However in my case due to my receiver's HDMI output was damaged by lightning, I found an alternative method to continue using the receiver to receive audio from the same source equipment. Below is setup of my arrangement.
Source equipments - > HDMI Matrix 4x2 Switch Splitter Arc - > TV (Output A) & Receiver (Output B)
That's a good bandage solution until your next upgrade. Is the splitter a HDMI 2.1 or 2.0?

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In my setup above, I get all the Dolby and DTS audio formats going into my receiver to be output into my 6.1 speakers
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6.1? Only one rear back speaker?

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Regarding "5.1 format" : Dolby Digital Plus can do 7.2.4 because that's the Atmos speaker configuration. It's a lossy compression, unlike Dolby TrueHD. Dolby made sure that there's enough space to insert the Atmos metadata inside a Dolby Digital stream to make it a Dolby Atmos/Digital Plus stream.

Technically ARC doesn't have enough bandwidth to just transmit Dolby TrueHD alone. But at 18 Mbps, that's the limit for HDMI 2.0. ARC being a two-way connection cannot sustain this.
TVs sold in Malaysia has to comply with the DVB-Terrestrial/Satellite/Cable standard because that's what the government adopted. Most of Europe and the world does too. Part of that is the audio codec it must decode and that is AAC, MP-3 and AC-3 aka Dolby Digital. The mandatory decoding has to be stereo. Multichannel decoding is not mandatory so no Dolby TrueHD support for DVB.

However, inside a Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Digital Plus stream has a Dolby Digital 5.1 stream. And inside that has a mixdown Dolby Digital 2.0 stream. The Dolby decoder in TVs can look at the stream and ignore everything else and just decode the 2.0 stream.

In short, you can connect a BD player to the TV and play a BD with Dolby TrueHD. The TV will decode a stereo signal for you.

DTS is not a mandatory spec. But I think most TVs have the decoder in there as well and again, just in stereo.

That's a good bandage solution until your next upgrade. Is the splitter a HDMI 2.1 or 2.0?

6.1? Only one rear back speaker?
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My current receiver do not support Dolby Atmos. Initially I have plans to upgrade to one which support Dolby Atmos with 7.1.2 speaker configuration. However I thought it will be useless because my current TV's HDMI ARC is 2.0 standard, which limits the return audio from TV to receiver to only 5.1 audio format. I thought need HDMI ARC 2.1 to be able to carry Dolby Digital Plus embedded with Atmos (of 7.2.4 audio signal) back to the receiver. Or did I get it wrong?

Are you saying if I invest in a receiver that support Dolby Atmos, when I use the TV's preinstalled Netflix playing content with Dolby Atmos........ and using HDMI ARC, the return audio from TV to receiver can output audio in 7.2.4 format (if I have that number of speakers)?

When I said this TV does not support Dolby TrueHD, it was because I tested playing a number of Audio Visual Test files (downloaded from web into pendrive) which contains only 1 audio stream. I know in some movies, there exist a couple of streams in various audio format which we can choose.

As for DTS format, this TV I tested can support multichannel. Again it limits to 5.1 format. DTSHD-MA in 7.1 and DTSHD-X format downconvert into 5.1 signal. Is it because of the TV's HDMI 2.0 because my receiver supports DTSHD-MA.

Splitter is a HDMI 2.0b HDCP 2.2 that supports up to 18 G Mbps

Yup only 1 rear back speaker due to room constraint and my mistake during renovation in pulling the wires. biggrin.gif

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My current receiver do not support Dolby Atmos. Initially I have plans to upgrade to one which support Dolby Atmos with 7.1.2 speaker configuration. However I thought it will be useless because my current TV's HDMI ARC is 2.0 standard, which limits the return audio from TV to receiver to only 5.1 audio format. I thought need HDMI ARC 2.1 to be able to carry Dolby Digital Plus embedded with Atmos (of 7.2.4 audio signal) back to the receiver. Or did I get it wrong?

Correct. You got it not right. console.gif

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Are you saying if I invest in a receiver that support Dolby Atmos, when I use the TV's preinstalled Netflix playing content with Dolby Atmos........ and using HDMI ARC, the return audio from TV to receiver can output audio in 7.2.4 format (if I have that number of speakers)?

Correct. You got it right. thumbup.gif

Most streaming apps don't really want to push the maximum bitrate of audio and video because the high bandwidth may get interrupted and not everybody has that kind of internet service. So they cap it both in audio and video before the video files are uploaded on their servers.

Dolby Atmos on streaming services is basically a trimmed version put inside a Dolby Digital Plus container. A Dolby Digital Plus signal can be passed through HDMI ARC. So if you replace your receiver with a Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/Auro one, you will get the 5.1.2 or 7.2.4 channels based on what the receiver can handle.

You can read the details here on Dolby.com!

But in case I'm wrong, you previously said your current setup is this.
Source equipments - > HDMI Matrix 4x2 Switch Splitter Arc - > TV (Output A) & Receiver (Output B)
So this works in getting you Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA, and 4K video.

I believe you also connect your Philips to your receiver with a HDMI cable to play Netflix/streaming apps on the TV. Do you get Dolby Digital Plus decoded through the receiver when playing Netflix? If the answer is yes, well there you go.

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When I said this TV does not support Dolby TrueHD, it was because I tested playing a number of Audio Visual Test files (downloaded from web into pendrive) which contains only 1 audio stream. I know in some movies, there exist a couple of streams in various audio format which we can choose.
I don't know if the Philips TV support Dolby TrueHD but that bitstream cannot be passed through with ARC. Try an AV test file with only Dolby Digital Plus in case the Netflix test is inconclusive.

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As for DTS format, this TV I tested can support multichannel. Again it limits to 5.1 format. DTSHD-MA in 7.1 and DTSHD-X format downconvert into 5.1 signal.

Is it because of the TV's HDMI 2.0 because my receiver supports DTSHD-MA.
It's because the TV's HDMI port is ARC, not eARC. HDMI Licensing Administrator said "Generally speaking, no" to the question "Is eARC available through a firmware update?"

DTS HDMA's maximum bitrate is 24 Mbps, bigger than Dolby TrueHD. If THD can't fit, HDMA certainly wouldn't.

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Splitter is a HDMI 2.0b HDCP 2.2 that supports up to 18 G Mbps
That's good enough for your current use. Once you upgrade the receiver, you no longer need this. Sell it as a combo with the old receiver.

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Yup only 1 rear back speaker due to room constraint and my mistake during renovation in pulling the wires.  biggrin.gif
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Well you want to make space and pull more wires before you upgrade your receiver. No point in getting one and still have the same speaker configuration. icon_rolleyes.gif

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I love you guys! Aspick and writesimply... notworthy.gif

This is my set-up now.
4K UHD BD Player (Sony UBP-X700) -> HDMI 2.0 -> Onkyo TX-SR606 -> HDMI (will upgrade to HDMI 2.0 next week) -> Philips 4K

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Amazon 4K Firestick with direct Ethernet connection -> Philips 4K -> Optical audio -> Onkyo

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I’ve ordered black plastic/silicon fridge stands to replace those ugly brick ones but these just lift the TV perfectly to slightly above the centre speaker. The wires visible at the back are an eyesore. Will think of putting a cloth back there eventually.

My Onkyo can only do Dolby True HD as I’ve only got 2 Mission V62 stand + 1 centre speakers, with subwoofer. Might eventually get the side speakers stands but I’m happy with my set up now.

I’ll eventually upgrade my Onkyo receiver to one that can do Dolby Atmos but I only got the whole sound set up over a year ago. Got all that..speakers, subwoofer and receiver for 1.5K. Got the 4K UHD BD player off eBay USA for US$110 and RM105 postage. It’s RM1300 on Lazada! shocking.gif

I’ve another multi-region Blu-ray player i also got from USA that can play my European Blu-ray discs. Set up is on another cupboard stand off to the left. The little white thing on the left is my Amazon Echo Dot to stream Spotify and connected directly to the receiver. biggrin.gif

Sorry to hijack this thread with my setup. But the Philips TV is really a good buy!



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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 8 2021, 06:17 PM)
First thing first.....congrats on your purchase


I don't find any bright hues on my TV. Maybe you can post snapshots of the problem here to explain what you see.

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It’s on the side, and top...

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It’s not too obvious.. just irritating.
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Most streaming apps don't really want to push the maximum bitrate of audio and video because the high bandwidth may get interrupted and not everybody has that kind of internet service. So they cap it both in audio and video before the video files are uploaded on their servers.

Dolby Atmos on streaming services is basically a trimmed version put inside a Dolby Digital Plus container. A Dolby Digital Plus signal can be passed through HDMI ARC. So if you replace your receiver with a Dolby Atmos/DTS-X/Auro one, you will get the 5.1.2 or 7.2.4 channels based on what the receiver can handle.

You can read the details here on Dolby.com!

But in case I'm wrong, you previously said your current setup is this.
Source equipments - > HDMI Matrix 4x2 Switch Splitter Arc - > TV (Output A) & Receiver (Output B)
So this works in getting you Dolby TrueHD and DTS HDMA, and 4K video.

I believe you also connect your Philips to your receiver with a HDMI cable to play Netflix/streaming apps on the TV. Do you get Dolby Digital Plus decoded through the receiver when playing Netflix? If the answer is yes, well there you go.

I don't know if the Philips TV support Dolby TrueHD but that bitstream cannot be passed through with ARC. Try an AV test file with only Dolby Digital Plus in case the Netflix test is inconclusive.

Well you want to make space and pull more wires before you upgrade your receiver. No point in getting one and still have the same speaker configuration. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the lesson on Dolby Atmos. I didn't realise you had written a very informative narrative on this subject in the Hisense thread until I read it. It will be beneficial to everyone if a new thread on this subject is created. Then you won't have to repeat yourself. 😅

I did not connect TV directly to receiver with HDMI as my receiver's HDMI output has been damaged by lightning. Instead to get ARC working, I connected the TV to the splitter's output with HDMI cable. Then I run an optical cable from the splitter to receiver. In this arrangement, I can get Dolby Digital Plus decoded thru the receiver when playing Netflix app in the TV.
When playing AV test files, file with DD+ in 5.1 format played out in multichannel mode but file with DD+ in 7.1 format only output picture without any sound. Is this bcoz of limitation of the optical cable in this arrangement?

Dolby Truehd files on pendrive (inserted into the USB slot) cannot be played on this TV. The file won't load at all.

On your last statement, certainly will be saving up now for future renovation with the final goal of having a 7.2.4 system installed in my home. This of course will have to get the blessing of my home minister. 😆

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 10 2021, 01:27 PM)
I love you guys! Aspick and writesimply...  notworthy.gif

This is my set-up now.
4K UHD BD Player (Sony UBP-X700) -> HDMI 2.0 -> Onkyo TX-SR606 -> HDMI (will upgrade to HDMI 2.0 next week) -> Philips 4K

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Amazon 4K Firestick with direct Ethernet connection -> Philips 4K -> Optical audio -> Onkyo

I’ve ordered black plastic/silicon fridge stands to replace those ugly brick ones but these just lift the TV perfectly to slightly above the centre speaker. The wires visible at the back are an eyesore. Will think of putting a cloth back there eventually.

My Onkyo can only do Dolby True HD as I’ve only got 2 Mission V62 stand + 1 centre speakers, with subwoofer. Might eventually get the side speakers stands but I’m happy with my set up now.

I’ll eventually upgrade my Onkyo receiver to one that can do Dolby Atmos but I only got the whole sound set up over a year ago. Got all that..speakers, subwoofer and receiver for 1.5K. Got the 4K UHD BD player off eBay USA for US$110 and RM105 postage. It’s RM1300 on Lazada!  shocking.gif

I’ve another multi-region Blu-ray player i also got from USA that can play my European Blu-ray discs. Set up is on another cupboard  stand off to the left. The little white thing on the left is my Amazon Echo Dot to stream Spotify and connected directly to the receiver.  biggrin.gif

Sorry to hijack this thread with my setup. But the Philips TV is really a good buy!
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Hahaha that's the purpose of this forum. We share our knowledge and help others in understanding better the products they intend to buy.

Nice setup. Looks impressive and intimidating with the 2 tower speakers. 😄

I can't help notice the support you use for your TV. I had the same problem with the centre speaker. In my case I recycle all my obsolete business cards and it's plastic holders, wrapped them with black tape to become the TV's support.

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I used to own a basic 5.1 Onkyo receiver paired with 2 Mission MX5 tower speakers and Mordaunt-Short for centre speaker and subwoofer. When I decided to upgrade, I compared and found Marantz receiver to best complement the Mission speakers. The combination works well to bring out the 'warm' sound of any music. Details were also clearly heard during high octane movie playbacks. Alas my Marantz broke after 5 years and had to settle with a 2nd hand Yamaha receiver as could not afford the premium pricing of these receivers.

Have you tried playing Dolby Digital Plus content on the TV and is there sound coming thru the optical cable to your receiver? Are you getting multichannel sound?
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It’s on the side, and top...

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It’s not too obvious.. just irritating.
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It does looks obvious from your photo. I hope it's not a defect.

For your info, I don't find this problem on my TV. Mine is the 50" model.
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 10 2021, 07:55 PM)
It does looks obvious from your photo. I hope it's not a defect.

For your info, I don't find this problem on my TV. Mine is the 50" model.
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 10 2021, 07:47 PM)
Hahaha that's the purpose of this forum. We share our knowledge and help others in understanding better the products they intend to buy.

Nice setup. Looks impressive and intimidating with the 2 tower speakers. 😄
Thanks. I like it too. I’ve always liked tower speakers. Weigh a ton though. People just don’t get it why I have a brand they’ve never heard of instead of Sony or Yamaha, or Bose. Nothing like good British speakers. I used to own a couple of tower B&W speakers many years ago when I lived in Canada. So was really happy when I got these! Got the whole setup as a steal. An expat didn’t want them anymore so I bought speakers + centre + KEF subwoofer + Onkyo receiver for RM1.5K

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I can't help notice the support you use for your TV. I had the same problem with the centre speaker. In my case I recycle all my obsolete business cards and it's plastic holders, wrapped them with black tape to become the TV's support.

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I just ordered a couple of new fridge stands in dark silicon/plastic. I was amazed that these just graced the top of the centre speaker!

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I used to own a basic 5.1 Onkyo receiver paired with 2 Mission MX5 tower speakers and Mordaunt-Short for centre speaker and subwoofer. When I decided to upgrade, I compared and found Marantz receiver to best complement the Mission speakers. The combination works well to bring out the 'warm' sound of any music. Details were also clearly heard during high octane movie playbacks. Alas my Marantz broke after 5 years and had to settle with a 2nd hand Yamaha receiver as could not afford the premium pricing of these receivers.

Have you tried playing Dolby Digital Plus content on the TV and is there sound coming thru the optical cable to your receiver? Are you getting multichannel sound?
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I’m not sure about multi channel but the receiver is showing Dolby True HD on it but as I’ only got 3 speakers, there’s no surround. I haven’t streamed anything yet other than some 4K destination videos on YouTube. The sound quality sounds better too though.

What side stand speakers do you recommend for the overall effect? I see many choices eg 2nd hand Mission mini speakers on eBay UK but the postage to get here will be exorbitant. I like Onkyo only because of their HDMI inputs so my next upgrade will probably be them too. Why do they cost so high in Malaysia considering they’re made here!

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I love you guys! Aspick and writesimply...  notworthy.gif

This is my set-up now.
4K UHD BD Player (Sony UBP-X700) -> HDMI 2.0 -> Onkyo TX-SR606 -> HDMI (will upgrade to HDMI 2.0 next week) -> Philips 4K

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That's a decent setup. Finding matching surrounds might be expensive. My suggestion is either two pairs of bookshelf speakers or two pairs of the DIY DML speakers for the 5.1.2 setup, whenever you upgrade.

Seeing that setup though, a laser 4K short-throw projector with ALR screen would match better with the floorstanders. brows.gif

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Amazon 4K Firestick with direct Ethernet connection -> Philips 4K -> Optical audio -> Onkyo
You don't need the optical cable.

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This is my set-up now.
4K UHD BD Player (Sony UBP-X700) -> HDMI 2.0 -> Onkyo TX-SR606 -> HDMI (will upgrade to HDMI 2.0 next week) -> Philips 4K
HDMI would be enough to get you Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Streaming. I'm just going to use Atmos-S for Streaming and Atmos-F for Full bandwidth.

Once you upgrade to HDMI 2.0/2.1 cable, this becomes your audio return channel - ARC - to the receiver.

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My Onkyo can only do Dolby True HD as I’ve only got 2 Mission V62 stand + 1 centre speakers, with subwoofer. Might eventually get the side speakers stands but I’m happy with my set up now.

I’ll eventually upgrade my Onkyo receiver to one that can do Dolby Atmos but I only got the whole sound set up over a year ago. Got all that..speakers, subwoofer and receiver for 1.5K.
Dolby Digital Plus is not new. It was launched about the same time as Dolby TrueHD. So your receiver can handle it.

Great price for the second-hand stuff!

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Got the 4K UHD BD player off eBay USA for US$110 and RM105 postage. It’s RM1300 on Lazada!  shocking.gif

I’ve another multi-region Blu-ray player i also got from USA that can play my European Blu-ray discs. Set up is on another cupboard  stand off to the left. The little white thing on the left is my Amazon Echo Dot to stream Spotify and connected directly to the receiver.  biggrin.gif
Which 4K UHD player you got? I was looking on Amazon and they don't have the same features.

The Panasonic DP-UB420-K at $200 seems to have all the major features including Dolby Vision than the DP-UB150-K at $150. I would also like a Multi-region BD player but it seems that if you have a 4K UHD, you already have a multi-region player. But I could be wrong on that. 4K BDs seems to be multi-region anyway.

I'm just going to use a PS5 as my 4K BD player, if I ever can buy one at MSRP. ranting.gif

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Sorry to hijack this thread with my setup. But the Philips TV is really a good buy!
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Glad that you are somewhat happy with the TV. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 10 2021, 02:04 PM)
It’s on the side, and top...

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It’s not too obvious.. just irritating.
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Already been infected withe upgrade-atitis, I see.

From the looks of it, it is "normal". It looks like this Philips is an edge-lit TV based on the bright patches. I think most lower priced TVs are. As the TV price suggests, you shouldn't try watching it in complete darkness. It's not built for that. Your eyes will adjust in complete brightness and when it's looking at a "black" screen on TV, you'll notice the brighter patches. If it's too bright or too dark or completely off, then you should call for warranty.

Panel uniformity can also an issue but usually if it's within their margin of error, manufacturers would not allow you to return it or request a repair.

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 11 2021, 01:34 PM)
I’m not sure about multi channel but the receiver is showing Dolby True HD on it but as I’ only got 3 speakers, there’s no surround. I haven’t streamed anything yet other than some 4K destination videos on YouTube. The sound quality sounds better too though.
Try any of the Netflix movies or shows that shows up as Dolby Atmos. Your TV won't know that you only have the previous gen receiver. It would just output Atmos-S as Dolby Digital Plus. Your receiver will only decode the Dolby Digital Plus signal and ignore the rest.

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What side stand speakers do you recommend for the overall effect? I see many choices eg 2nd hand Mission mini speakers on eBay UK but the postage to get here will be exorbitant.
In a perfect setup, it should all be Mission speakers of the same range.

I suggest that you set a budget for 4 speakers of the same model, probably bookshelf speakers that are not too big. Two for the surrounds and two as your height speakers to aim at the ceiling.

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I like Onkyo only because of their HDMI inputs so my next upgrade will probably be them too. Why do they cost so high in Malaysia considering they’re made here!
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So many good electronics that are made here costs a bomb. Like the Sony TVs.

QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 10 2021, 06:54 PM)
Thanks for the lesson on Dolby Atmos. I didn't realise you had written a very informative narrative on this subject in the Hisense thread until I read it. It will be beneficial to everyone if a new thread on this subject is created. Then you won't have to repeat yourself. 😅
I didn't mean to repeat myself, or start a lesson. blush.gif I think most people would only read the threads that they participate in and won't read the others.

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I did not connect TV directly to receiver with HDMI as my receiver's HDMI output has been damaged by lightning. Instead to get ARC working, I connected the TV to the splitter's output with HDMI cable. Then I run an optical cable from the splitter to receiver. In this arrangement, I can get Dolby Digital Plus decoded thru the receiver when playing Netflix app in the TV.
After you've explained it three times, I finally understood your issue. Three time's the charm.

So your HDMI splitter is also a switcher? As in multiple players connected to it and then one HDMI cable goes into the receiver and the other one to the receiver?

Coming back to the TV and the receiver. How are you connecting them? Just using the optical cable? Have you tried connecting the TV to the receiver using one of the inputs on the receiver? This might work in giving you Dolby Digital Plus.

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When playing AV test files, file with DD+ in 5.1 format played out in multichannel mode but file with DD+ in 7.1 format only output picture without any sound. Is this bcoz of limitation of the optical cable in this arrangement?

Dolby Digital Plus starts at 1.7 Mbps. It's intended to give more fidelity than the basic Dolby Digital. A short history on Dolby Digital and how optical cable plays into this.

Dolby Digital started in 1992 with the first film released with DD being Batman Returns. Dolby Digital's data is embedded between the film's sprockets itself. The theatrical DD bitrate is 320 kbps for 5.1 channels.

In January 1995, Paramount released Clear and Present Danger on Laserdisc. By the 1990s, Laserdiscs had analog and digital (PCM) stereo channels on the platter. Using just the right analog channel on the Laserdisc, Dolby delivered DD 5.1 at 384 kbps, higher than the theatrical experience.

In November 1996, DVD was introduced and either Dolby Digital 2.0 or PCM 2.0 has to be the mandatory audio that each DVD had to have. By then, more movies are coming out in 5.1 mixes so most chose DD 5.1. The bitrate for DD 5.1 on DVD is 448 kbps.

Of course, while Dolby began rolling out DD Theatrical, DTS was also pushing their format and succeeding to be backwards compatible on film for a single, simple reason - CDs. Instead of putting digital data onto film, DTS uses a timecode data embedded on the film to sync it with a dedicated CD player.

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A 120-minute movie would need 2 CDs while anything longer would require 3 CDs. The data rate for DTS theatrical is 784 kbps. This, and the fact that DTS on Laserdisc and DVDs have bitrate of 1.5 Mbps (and 784 kbps), is why AV enthusiasts liked DTS more. Less compression means better audio, as the thinking went. By the way, the first movie with DTS on film and Laserdisc is Jurassic Park. rclxms.gif

So lets come back to CDs. By late 80s and all through the 90s, CD was the audio format. You can play CDs on CD players and also Laserdisc players. It's bitrate is 1.5 Mbps and the best way to connect a CD player to a receiver would be via optical cable.

So by the fault of old technology - analog 480i video and 1.5 Mbps optical digital audio - that exists on CD and DVD, and how their players are connected to AV receivers, we get to digital audio and video via HDMI.

Both Dolby and DTS audio compression technologies are scalable. On BD, Dolby Digital 5.1 is 640 kbps. To add more fidelity, DD increases by more than double to 1.7 Mbps to be Dolby Digital Plus at 7.1. But using optical cable at 1.5 Mbps, all that extra audio data and metadata in DD+ and Atmos-S have to be removed. That means you end up with 5.1 when using an optical cable. Scalable.

Phew. cheers.gif

Dolby Digital Plus was probably Dolby's answer to Blu-ray content maker who wanted better fidelity than Dolby Digital but doesn't want to pay for an extra layer on the disc - BD25 instead of BD50.

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Dolby Truehd files on pendrive (inserted into the USB slot) cannot be played on this TV. The file won't load at all.
I assume you're using the built-in media player on the TV. I think you have the same TV as GuyB, right? The Philips PUT8215 with Android TV OS?

Have you installed Kodi and tried playing from there? With Kodi, the files can be on the USB flashdrive or your home NAS. It can play them in any format, even in 3D. Also you can enable audio passthrough.

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On your last statement, certainly will be saving up now for future renovation with the final goal of having a 7.2.4 system installed in my home. This of course will have to get the blessing of my home minister. 😆
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Work on it slow and steady!


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Couldn’t get the quotes to work.. so requote answers below

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That's a decent setup. Finding matching surrounds might be expensive. My suggestion is either two pairs of bookshelf speakers or two pairs of the DIY DML speakers for the 5.1.2 setup, whenever you upgrade.

Seeing that setup though, a laser 4K short-throw projector with ALR screen would match better with the floorstanders. brows.gif
Yah, I already told you about my ability to DIY anything... 😬
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You don't need the optical cable.

HDMI would be enough to get you Dolby Digital Plus/Atmos Streaming. I'm just going to use Atmos-S for Streaming and Atmos-F for Full bandwidth.

Once you upgrade to HDMI 2.0/2.1 cable, this becomes your audio return channel - ARC - to the receiver.


Well, there’s no input for my Onkyo from the TV (when using the Firestick). Im only using the Optical Audio cable for sound, and turn on CBL/SAT as the audio. I’ll have to wait till I get my upgraded receiver with Dolby Atmos, then the HDMI ARC will replace the Optical Audio cable. However , do you mean, I can connect the HDMI 2.0 from TV back to the receiver under CBL/SAT? Can a normal HDMI cable handle ARC? It’s just sound right?
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Dolby Digital Plus is not new. It was launched about the same time as Dolby TrueHD. So your receiver can handle it.

Great price for the second-hand stuff!

Which 4K UHD player you got? I was looking on Amazon and they don't have the same features.

The Panasonic DP-UB420-K at $200 seems to have all the major features including Dolby Vision than the DP-UB150-K at $150. I would also like a Multi-region BD player but it seems that if you have a 4K UHD, you already have a multi-region player. But I could be wrong on that. 4K BDs seems to be multi-region anyway.

I'm just going to use a PS5 as my 4K BD player, if I ever can buy one at MSRP.  ranting.gif 

Glad that you are somewhat happy with the TV.  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Try any of the Netflix movies or shows that shows up as Dolby Atmos. Your TV won't know that you only have the previous gen receiver. It would just output Atmos-S as Dolby Digital Plus. Your receiver will only decode the Dolby Digital Plus signal and ignore the rest.

In a perfect setup, it should all be Mission speakers of the same range.

I suggest that you set a budget for 4 speakers of the same model, probably bookshelf speakers that are not too big. Two for the surrounds and two as your height speakers to aim at the ceiling.

Already been infected withe upgrade-atitis, I see.
What do you mean “upgrade-atitis”? 😬

I got the SONY UBP-X700. Lazada wanted RM1288 (cheapest). I got it on eBay US as an open box item for US$110. Shipping was RM104. Only 4K is multi region. Blu-ray Discs have their regions. I got a whole bunch of European BD that I couldn’t play when I brought them back here. The US ones are same region as Malaysia so that’s ok. So last year I bought a BD multi region player ..thru a US company for US$99. Shipping came to around RM 60. The ones here wanted an arm and a leg for multi-region capability.

QUOTE(writesimply)
So many good electronics that are made here costs a bomb. Like the Sony TVs.

I didn't mean to repeat myself, or start a lesson.  blush.gif  I think most people would only read the threads that they participate in and won't read the others.


Work on it slow and steady!
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Couldn’t get the quotes to work.. so requote answers below
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It's a basic programming thing. You have to mark the start [ quote ] and end [ /quote ] of what you want to quote.

You can type it manually. Or you can use the buttons. When you use the buttons though, place the cursor at the spot where you want to start commenting, then click the button. Everything must have a start and end square brackets [] for you to make bold, italicize or underline words, insert YouTube links or websites.

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 13 2021, 12:37 PM)
Yah, I already told you about my ability to DIY anything... 😬
It's the lockdown. Plenty of time to learn new skills. Or not. You do you.

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Well, there’s no input for my Onkyo from the TV (when using the Firestick). Im only using the Optical Audio cable for sound, and turn on CBL/SAT as the audio. I’ll have to wait till I get my upgraded receiver with Dolby Atmos, then the HDMI ARC will replace the Optical Audio cable. However , do you mean, I can connect the HDMI 2.0 from TV back to the receiver under CBL/SAT? Can a normal HDMI cable handle ARC? It’s just sound right?
I was assuming the wrong thing again. Sorry. I didn't realize the Onkyo TX-SR606 has no ARC support. doh.gif

Right now how you're connecting is the right way to go to get any sound from the TV to the receiver. When you have updated your receiver to one with eARC, then you can just use a HDMI 2.0/2.1 cable for audio and video bi-directional connection to the TV.

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What do you mean “upgrade-atitis”? 😬
It's a malady often associated with AV enthusiasts. Every other year, they want to upgrade to a new receiver, player, speakers and such.

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I got the SONY UBP-X700. Lazada wanted RM1288 (cheapest). I got it on eBay US as an open box item for US$110. Shipping was RM104. Only 4K is multi region. Blu-ray Discs have their regions.
Good to know.

That's a nice player it seems. Even supports SACD. May need to look into it.

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I got a whole bunch of European BD that I couldn’t play when I brought them back here. The US ones are same region as Malaysia so that’s ok. So last year I bought a BD multi region player ..thru a US company for US$99. Shipping came to around RM 60. The ones here wanted an arm and a leg for multi-region capability.
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I only have one Region B BD and I've already ripped it. May not need multi-region player yet though my R3 DVDs are collecting dust.

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Hi all sifu

Want to ask, is put6654 or put6604 still relevant to but now?
Is there huge difference on picture quality between these model and put8215/put7374?

Put aside tv OS coz will pair TV with tivo4k.

Tqia..
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I’m not sure about multi channel but the receiver is showing Dolby True HD on it but as I’ only got 3 speakers, there’s no surround. I haven’t streamed anything yet other than some 4K destination videos on YouTube. The sound quality sounds better too though.
Showing Dolby TrueHD when playing your source material from your UHD Bluray player? That will be correct if your current arrangement as follow: UHD BD player -> Receiver -> TV

Try switching the arrangement as follow: UHD BD player -> TV -> (optical cable) -> Receiver
Then play a UHD Bluray disk and choose the audio stream with "Dolby TrueHD" (not "Dolby Digital 5.1 or 7.1)
I doubt you can still get Dolby TrueHD on your receiver.

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 11 2021, 01:34 PM)
What side stand speakers do you recommend for the overall effect? I see many choices eg 2nd hand Mission mini speakers on eBay UK but the postage to get here will be exorbitant. I like Onkyo only because of their HDMI inputs so my next upgrade will probably be them too. Why do they cost so high in Malaysia considering they’re made here!
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I will suggest getting a pair of Mission surround speakers to complement your existing Mission front speakers. Or any bookshelf speakers, preferably British brand to complement the 'warm' sound of your equipment.

QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 13 2021, 12:37 PM)
Well, there’s no input for my Onkyo from the TV (when using the Firestick). Im only using the Optical Audio cable for sound, and turn on CBL/SAT as the audio. I’ll have to wait till I get my upgraded receiver with Dolby Atmos, then the HDMI ARC will replace the Optical Audio cable. However , do you mean, I can connect the HDMI 2.0 from TV back to the receiver under CBL/SAT? Can a normal HDMI cable handle ARC? It’s just sound right?
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I do not think connecting using HDMI cable from TV to your receiver under CBL/SAT (HDMI in port) will work (see my comment below on the experiment I did). Neither will it work with your current HDMI cable from receiver HDMI out port to TV HDMI in port. That is because your receiver model does not have ARC support.


QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 11 2021, 10:29 PM)
So your HDMI splitter is also a switcher? As in multiple players connected to it and then one HDMI cable goes into the receiver and the other one to the receiver?
Yes its a 4x2 splitter switcher with ARC and EDID as shown in photo below. I got three sources (TV box, Bluray player & Media Player) each with a HDMI cable going into this thing. Then two HDMI cables coming out from it, one to TV and the other to receiver. I also have an optical cable coming out from it to the receiver in oreder to pass the audio return signal from TV to the receiver.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 11 2021, 10:29 PM)
Coming back to the TV and the receiver. How are you connecting them? Just using the optical cable? Have you tried connecting the TV to the receiver using one of the inputs on the receiver? This might work in giving you Dolby Digital Plus.
The splitter switcher is connecting TV to the receiver only for purpose of carrying audio return signal as follow:
TV <-(Audio & Visual) - HDMI cable - (Audio Return)-> Splitter Switcher -> Optical cable (Audio Return)-> Receiver

Connecting TV to any of the inputs of the receiver will not produce any sound.

QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 11 2021, 10:29 PM)
I assume you're using the built-in media player on the TV. I think you have the same TV as GuyB, right? The Philips PUT8215 with Android TV OS?

Have you installed Kodi and tried playing from there? With Kodi, the files can be on the USB flashdrive or your home NAS. It can play them in any format, even in 3D. Also you can enable audio passthrough.
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The built-in media player on the TV cannot decode Dolby TrueHD audio format. The files will not load at all.

I installed Kodi 19.1 into the TV and played the same files. When I enable audio passthrough, I found that Dolby TrueHD files can be played but the receiver display PCM 2.0 with only stereo sound.

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Hi all sifu

Want to ask, is put6654 or put6604 still relevant to but now?
Is there huge difference on picture quality between these model and put8215/put7374?

Put aside tv OS coz will pair TV with tivo4k.

Tqia..
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PUT6654 & PUT6604 are previous year model. Current model in the market are PUT8215 & PUT7374.

I do not think anyone can help on picture quality unless he has both models at home installed side by side to compare. You can however try visiting AV showrooms which have these models to compare them yourself.
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 14 2021, 11:38 PM)
PUT6654 & PUT6604 are previous year model. Current model in the market are PUT8215 & PUT7374.

I do not think anyone can help on picture quality unless he has both models at home installed side by side to compare. You can however try visiting AV showrooms which have these models to compare them yourself.
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PUT6654 & PUT6604 & PUT7374.....year 2019

PUT8215.....year 2020

PUT7406 & PUT8516 .......year 2021
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Philips TVs are good (I have a Philips CD-I Interactive Player from back in the day which I have upgraded to play A/V or multimedia files and formats from disc or memory card, watch DVD, SACD, HDCD, MP4 DVD, MP3 DVD, DivX DVD, Photo CD etc. play 24 & 32 bit 2D and 3D games, play Interactive titles from Philips CD-I format as well as later install the networking module to surf the Internet and watch and listen to streaming services.)

But I find my homegrown Malaysian brand or off-brand Dawa LED TV much more sharper, brighter, clearer and vivid than my Philips LED Smart TV downstairs.
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QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 14 2021, 11:26 PM)
Yes its a 4x2 splitter switcher with ARC and EDID as shown in photo below. I got three sources (TV box, Bluray player & Media Player) each with a HDMI cable going into this thing. Then two HDMI cables coming out from it, one to TV and the other to receiver. I also have an optical cable coming out from it to the receiver in order to pass the audio return signal from TV to the receiver.

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The splitter switcher is connecting TV to the receiver only for purpose of carrying audio return signal as follow: 
TV  <-(Audio & Visual) - HDMI cable - (Audio Return)-> Splitter Switcher  -> Optical cable (Audio Return)-> Receiver
That configuration almost broke my brain. Glad you found your solution to get surround sound!

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Connecting TV to any of the inputs of the receiver will not produce any sound.
So okay. Now I know that TVs with ARC and eARC are not blindly sending out audio signals back.

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The built-in media player on the TV cannot decode Dolby TrueHD audio format. The files will not load at all.
It's the limitation of the Google player. They should update it because it's not just for phones anymore.

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I installed Kodi 19.1 into the TV and played the same files. When I enable audio passthrough, I found that Dolby TrueHD files can be played but the receiver display PCM 2.0 with only stereo sound.
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There is a configuration for this. Of course, you'll only get Dolby Digital/DTS and not THD/HDMA because you're playing the file via Kodi on the TV. If you're using Kodi using a TV box, you will get THD/HDMA.

Basically, you have to set the speakers to 2.0. It's completely counterintuitive to how we think the player setup to be.

QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Jul 15 2021, 07:05 AM)
Philips TVs are good (I have a Philips CD-I Interactive Player from back in the day which I have upgraded to play A/V or multimedia files and formats from disc or memory card, watch DVD, SACD, HDCD, MP4 DVD, MP3 DVD, DivX DVD, Photo CD etc. play 24 & 32 bit 2D and 3D games, play Interactive titles from Philips CD-I format as well as later install the networking module to surf the Internet and watch and listen to streaming services.)
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That is a major hack! As far as I know, the CD-I only have a red book laser for playing CDs and VCDs. How'd you manage to change the laser mechanism and change the ROM. Are you playing real SACDs or DVDs with DSD/DST files?

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Well, if I told you everything it would be like giving my secret away, my Philips CD-i player is definitely modified hardware wise by adding commercially available plug in circuit boards. I had the disc tray changed to DVD capable laser head and had additional programming added or additional software features or instruction set added to its firmware. The additional firmware or instruction set comes on the ROM in the circuit boards that support all CD-I upgraded features by way of switching. All additional upgraded firmware that support additional functions is GUI OSD (Graphical User Interface On Screen Display) menu driven to match the Philips CD-i built in pre programmed original firmware.

Any SACD, DVD or disc, thumb/pen drive as well as memory card is possible. Mine has the capability to read 40 A/V formats including FLAC, OGG, WMV, WMA, 3GP, Xvid, AVI etc.

Yup, you can say my Philips CD-I player is modified and upgraded electronics and firmware wise. Yikes, looks like I gave my secret away.

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It's the limitation of the Google player. They should update it because it's not just for phones anymore.
Agreed. Google need to update their player as more Android TVs are being released.

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There is a configuration for this. Of course, you'll only get Dolby Digital/DTS and not THD/HDMA because you're playing the file via Kodi on the TV. If you're using Kodi using a TV box, you will get THD/HDMA.

Basically, you have to set the speakers to 2.0. It's completely counterintuitive to how we think the player setup to be.
Thanks bro for pointing me to the link. It has solved my problem of attempting to play Dolby Vision with TrueHD+Atmos content files thru the TV USB port. Surround sound going into my receiver now.

Agree too completely counterintuitive to what we think. Wonder are there any further tricks to setting the Kodi player.
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QUOTE(Wobblyblob @ Jul 16 2021, 12:05 AM)
Yup, you can say my Philips CD-I player is modified and upgraded electronics and firmware wise. Yikes, looks like I gave my secret away.
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Not really. You didn't say how you did it or where you got the parts from.

QUOTE(Aspick @ Jul 17 2021, 11:00 AM)
Thanks bro for pointing me to the link. It has solved my problem of attempting to play Dolby Vision with TrueHD+Atmos content files thru the TV USB port. Surround sound going into my receiver now.
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Glad to be of help. thumbup.gif

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Hi all master, sifus, owner.

I would like to request your advice on the below Philips model.

1.65put6654
2.65put7374 (P5 engine)

Personally, I would like to get 6654 due to its lower price compared with 7374 and pair it with media box.

But upon my small research, I found out that the 6654 model does not come with a P5 engine. and I was wondering will it affected the picture quality in terms of upscaling.

I already tried to find a review regarding this particular model. But it seems there is not much info about that.

So, I need support from others that have experience or already owning this TV to give some insight to me.

Much thanks in advance

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Ah.........that's why I say it's a secret.
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QUOTE(wutedo @ Jul 18 2021, 10:19 PM)
Hi all master, sifus, owner.

I would like to request your advice on the below Philips model.

1.65put6654
2.65put7374 (P5 engine)

Personally, I would like to get 6654 due to its lower price compared with 7374 and pair it with media box.

But upon my small research, I found out that the 6654 model does not come with a P5 engine. and I was wondering will it affected the picture quality in terms of upscaling.

I already tried to find a review regarding this particular model. But it seems there is not much info about that.

So, I need support from others that have experience or already owning this TV to give some insight to me.

Much thanks in advance
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Not sure if this is of any help but here's what I have found out so far - both are 2019 models.

65PUT6654 / IPS screen for 65 inch / Saphi OS / Pixel Precise processing / supports HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos / 320-350 nits
65PUT7374 / IPS screen for 65 inch / Android 9 / P5 Gen 3 if I am not wrong / supports all standards as above / 3 sided Ambilight / 400-450 nits

I have not seen the PUT6654 yet but I have seen the PUT7374 and it is a very impressive TV for the price if you want something else
compared to the usual mainstream Samsung, LG and Sony entry / mid range models. You won't find much reviews locally for these 2
models (though there is one for 65PUT7374 by a Malaysian on YouTube. Personally, I think the P5 Gen 3 processor is easily the better
processor compared to the Pixel Precise in terms of picture quality, color rendition and depth of details but this is purely my opinion.

Philips tend to change up their model numbers for the EU or LATAM market so you can Google up PUS/PUG6554 and PUS7304 which
are the closest / similar versions to the local models. Philips Malaysia has not brought many of their 2020 range - the PUT8215 is the
replacement for the PUT7374 (minus the Ambilight) - only the 50, 55 and 70 inch versions are available. The 65PUT8215 is available
across the border in S'pore but not locally which is just baffling dry.gif

Cheers,
V.

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hi guys, i'm interested in this 50PUT6604/68.. can anyone confirm this is model from which year? seller said year 2020.
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hi guys, i'm interested in this 50PUT6604/68.. can anyone confirm this is model from which year? seller said year 2020.
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It's 2019 range though it could have only been made available in 2020 locally. PUT6604 - means its from their 6000 series while
04 stands for 2019 model year. So the current PUT8215 means it's from their 8000 series while 5 stands for 2020 model year.

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It's 2019 range though it could have only been made available in 2020 locally. PUT6604 - means its from their 6000 series while
04 stands for 2019 model year. So the current PUT8215 means it's from their 8000 series while 5 stands for 2020 model year.
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That made sense. The 2021 Philips TVs are listed ending with 6s.

QUOTE(rahtid @ Jul 19 2021, 02:38 PM)
hi guys, i'm interested in this 50PUT6604/68.. can anyone confirm this is model from which year? seller said year 2020.
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You can check the full list starting with the 2021 models here.
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Jul 19 2021, 02:14 PM)
Not sure if this is of any help but here's what I have found out so far - both are 2019 models.

65PUT6654 / IPS screen for 65 inch / Saphi OS / Pixel Precise processing / supports HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos / 320-350 nits
65PUT7374 / IPS screen for 65 inch / Android 9 / P5 Gen 3 if I am not wrong / supports all standards as above / 3 sided Ambilight / 400-450 nits

I have not seen the PUT6654 yet but I have seen the PUT7374 and it is a very impressive TV for the price if you want something else
compared to the usual mainstream Samsung, LG and Sony entry / mid range models. You won't find much reviews locally for these 2
models (though there is one for 65PUT7374 by a Malaysian on YouTube. Personally, I think the P5 Gen 3 processor is easily the better
processor compared to the Pixel Precise in terms of picture quality, color rendition and depth of details but this is purely my opinion.

Philips tend to change up their model numbers for the EU or LATAM market so you can Google up PUS/PUG6554 and PUS7304 which
are the closest / similar versions to the local models. Philips Malaysia has not brought many of their 2020 range - the PUT8215 is the
replacement for the PUT7374 (minus the Ambilight) - only the 50, 55 and 70 inch versions are available. The 65PUT8215 is available
across the border in S'pore but not locally which is just baffling  dry.gif

Cheers,
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Hi Vanquish_08,

Thank you so much for your time to construct your comment and reply, appreciated it so much.

The thing that catches my eye is your statement of comparison to the others mainstreams brands as I have already been in dilemma between PUT7374 & Sony X80AJ since the market price is very similar. Hence i need to create some justification for myself why I need to choose Philips over Sony.

That brings me back to my basic requirement which is for the streaming movies through media box, Astro Njoi and my initial budget (3.2K) hence PUT6654 should be enough for me.

But upon some research & info digging from video & statement review, I tend to go to PUT7374 since PUT8215 did not have 65' in MA market due to extra technical features. There where i stumble upon X80AJ due to the price similarity. Parallelly I have been increasing my budget to 3.7K maximum.

Now i really in dilemma between PUT7374 & X80AJ. Yesterday i was pretty sure tu get Sony but today it tends toward Philips again and still trying to create a strong argument with myself. LOL


Now i also confuse with myself





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QUOTE(wutedo @ Jul 19 2021, 04:23 PM)
Hi Vanquish_08,

Thank you so much for your time to construct your comment and reply, appreciated it so much.

The thing that catches my eye is your statement of comparison to the others mainstreams brands as I have already been in dilemma between PUT7374 & Sony X80AJ since the market price is very similar. Hence i need to create some justification for myself why I need to choose Philips over Sony.

That brings me back to my basic requirement which is for the streaming movies through media box, Astro Njoi and my initial budget (3.2K) hence PUT6654 should be enough for me.

But upon some research & info digging from video & statement review, I tend to go to PUT7374 since PUT8215 did not have 65' in MA market due to extra technical features. There where i stumble upon X80AJ due to the price similarity. Parallelly I have been increasing my budget to 3.7K maximum.

Now i really in dilemma between PUT7374 & X80AJ. Yesterday i was pretty sure tu get Sony but today it tends toward Philips again and still trying to create a strong argument with myself. LOL
Now i also confuse with myself
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Glad to be of some help. But allow me to confuse you further - for that budget, you may also include the older and better performing 65X8000H
compared to the X80J (both IPS screens) which runs on Google TV and being this year's entry level model. Philips basically did not introduce any
65 inch version of their 7000/8000 series in 2020 but their 2021 range includes the 65PUT8516 which looks like an updated version of 65PUT8215
with 3-sided Ambilight. If it's any consolation to you, I will tell you I am equally confused and unable to make up my mind tongue.gif

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It's 2019 range though it could have only been made available in 2020 locally. PUT6604 - means its from their 6000 series while
04 stands for 2019 model year. So the current PUT8215 means it's from their 8000 series while 5 stands for 2020 model year.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 19 2021, 03:18 PM)
That made sense. The 2021 Philips TVs are listed ending with 6s.

You can check the full list starting with the 2021 models here.
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thanks for the fast confirmation!!!
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thanks for the fast confirmation!!!
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Hi,

I am not sure what you are being quoted for the 50PUT6604 but Harvey Norman is having a very good deal for the 50PUT8215 which a
couple of guys here are having. It's from their 2020 range with Android 9 with better specs and performance too for a couple of hundred
RM more. Just a thought ...

Philip 50PUT8215

Cheers,

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Hi,

I am not sure what you are being quoted for the 50PUT6604 but Harvey Norman is having a very good deal for the 50PUT8215 which a
couple of guys here are having. It's from their 2020 range with Android 9 with better specs and performance too for a couple of hundred
RM more. Just a thought ...

Philip 50PUT8215

Cheers,
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this is awesome, never thought of getting from HN, usually just buy everything from shopee, lzd. thanks so much for sharing this !!

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this is awesome, never thought of getting from HN, usually just buy everything from shopee, lzd. thanks so much for sharing this !!
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You're welcome. I was quite surprised too as their price is about RM 100.00 to 120.00 cheaper than what online sellers are quoting now.
Of course you have the benefit of adding extended warranty if needed and they handle their own deliveries to major cities. I am told it is
also possible to secure additional discounts via their online chat at times (not sure if it applies to all products) during this current FMCO
sale that's going on.
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I bought the 55” through Shoppee seller for RM2399. Then seller called next day and said sold out.. 😢. So back to online and found another for RM2599 in the end. Local Penang delivery RM20, plus setup RM30. Was worth it.

Love the fact the TV shows a little flag on the bottom right the display...eg Dolby Atmos, or HDR10+
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 29 2021, 04:07 AM)
I bought the 55” through Shoppee seller for RM2399. Then seller called next day and said sold out.. 😢. So back to online and found another for RM2599 in the end. Local Penang delivery RM20, plus setup RM30. Was worth it.

Love the fact the TV shows a little flag on the bottom right the display...eg Dolby Atmos, or HDR10+
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Thought you've been enjoying the Philips all this while. biggrin.gif

A friend asked me about 4K receivers, which made me look into that again. The Onkyo set I recommended (with the speakers) has a basic receiver that has no HDMI eARC, just ARC. Something to pay attention to when you look into 4K receivers.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Jul 30 2021, 04:17 PM)
Thought you've been enjoying the Philips all this while.  biggrin.gif

A friend asked me about 4K receivers, which made me look into that again. The Onkyo set I recommended (with the speakers) has a basic receiver that has no HDMI eARC, just ARC. Something to pay attention to when you look into 4K receivers.
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Thank you.

I’m thinking of getting the Onkyo TX-NR696. But by the time i get round to it, a newer model might be available then! tongue.gif

https://www.intl.onkyo.com/products/av_comp...r696/index.html

Actually I just posted over at the Home Theatre Setup page. I’m going to get Mission MV-DS Bookshelf speakers as my surround sound speakers. Remember that I only have an old Onkyo TX-SR606 Receiver. Although it can aptly provide 7.1, though not ATMOS, I’m happy to have just 5.1 until my upgrade.

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I’m thinking of getting the Onkyo TX-NR696. But by the time i get round to it, a newer model might be available then!  tongue.gif
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The TX-NR696 is already an old model. It doesn't even have eARC and I don't know if eARC can be made as an update biggrin.gif

The new model is the 100 series like the TX-NR7100 and the TX-NR6100. CNet apparently didn't like the TX-NR5100 much. It seems like Onkyo skipped 2020 and just go with 2021 TX-NR models. Look at TX-RZ840 if you want eARC. It's also the beefier model.

Another forum said that the Denon AVR-X2500H has eARC and it's a good performer. But that seems to be sold out here. The 600 (2019) and 700 (2020) series have eARC too so you might look into that. The AVR-X1600H or AVR-X2600H might fit your bill.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 3 2021, 07:39 PM)
The TX-NR696 is already an old model. It doesn't even have eARC and I don't know if eARC can be made as an update  biggrin.gif

The new model is the 100 series like the TX-NR7100 and the TX-NR6100. CNet apparently didn't like the TX-NR5100 much. It seems like Onkyo skipped 2020 and just go with 2021 TX-NR models. Look at TX-RZ840 if you want eARC. It's also the beefier model.

Another forum said that the Denon AVR-X2500H has eARC and it's a good performer. But that seems to be sold out here. The 600 (2019) and 700 (2020) series have eARC too so you might look into that. The AVR-X1600H or AVR-X2600H might fit your bill.
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Yes I know that my Onkyo model is very old. I didn’t even have a sound system until a year plus ago. So am grateful for anything now.

But if the TX-NR696 is already old (but it’s still being sold for RM3K online).. I’ll look into the other one..TX-RZ840. Why is it US$1100 in the US (RM4645) and its RM6900 on Lazada? The TX-RZ830 is going for RM5K! Considering Onkyos are made in this country !

I don’t want to buy extra speakers. Am happy with the Missions I have now, and the bookshelf ones I’m getting next month or so as my surround. Later will get the 7.1 setup for ATMOS add ons.

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But if the TX-NR696 is already old (but it’s still being sold for RM3K online).. I’ll look into the other one..TX-RZ840. Why is it US$1100 in the US (RM4645) and its RM6900 on Lazada? The TX-RZ830 is going for RM5K! Considering Onkyos  are made in this country !
That's how it is for AV components outside of North America. For some reason once you're out of there, the price goes up by 20-40%. It doesn't matter if they are made in Malaysia or not. The UK has the same problem.

Also it's odd the way sellers here hold on to old products. They don't realize that slowly they are turning their shops into old product museum. And they don't even lower the prices for these products either.

You can try importing receivers that you want from the US. The risk is warranty and repair. Also radio channels may not work. biggrin.gif Just so you know, Malaysian Customs cannot tax receivers because that's the law with regards to devices that has radio capabilities. You would also need a very beefy and clean step-down converter. Or you can try importing from the UK.

If you want to see more about electronics price differences between the US and the world, look at projectors. doh.gif

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Maybe your DIY skills would improve by then. biggrin.gif

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That's how it is for AV components outside of North America. For some reason once you're out of there, the price goes up by 20-40%. It doesn't matter if they are made in Malaysia or not. The UK has the same problem.

Also it's odd the way sellers here hold on to old products. They don't realize that slowly they are turning their shops into old product museum. And they don't even lower the prices for these products either.
🤣🤣🤣 I know what you mean!

QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 4 2021, 02:06 PM)
You can try importing receivers that you want from the US. The risk is warranty and repair. Also radio channels may not work. biggrin.gif Just so you know, Malaysian Customs cannot tax receivers because that's the law with regards to devices that has radio capabilities. You would also need a very beefy and clean step-down converter. Or you can try importing from the UK.

If you want to see more about electronics price differences between the US and the world, look at projectors.  doh.gif

Maybe your DIY skills would improve by then. biggrin.gif
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Can you please elaborate on the “Malaysian Customs cannot tax receivers ..” Onkyo receivers, those mentioned anyway, all have switches between 110v & 240v. Would buying an amplifier without receiver be better? Who listens to the radio nowadays? Actually, the Onkyo TX-RZ840 is 2019 model. The US is promoting the Onkyo TX-NR5100. It’s at US$599. The US price is always less than the UK’s. Need to worry about Malaysian Customs that’s all.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainmen...ll-wait-to-buy/

Never mind repair. If it’s made here. It can be repaired here. That’s what I did when I bought my 4K UHD BluRay player from eBay USA. So far, playing perfectly. 1/3 the price than Lazada even.

Actually look at all the models available...
https://www.onkyousa.com/home/

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Can you please elaborate on the “Malaysian Customs cannot tax receivers ..”
It's in the tax code. It's a tax-exempt item, like PCs, cameras and projectors. brows.gif So for personal use, no tax.

When you're a seller and importing in bulk, then the government wants in on your sales. So if someone ever calls you to help you "clear" your items, tell them no. I think the tax code itself is published in a book. You can bring the book to KLIA or Port Klang.

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Onkyo receivers, those mentioned anyway, all have switches between 110v & 240v.
Not if you bring the North American one. Most electronics there are single voltage only. And I don't think that explains the cheaper price.

I mean, Sony could do it on the Playstations.

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Would buying an amplifier without receiver be better? Who listens to the radio nowadays?
A receiver is actually two things: 1) a source selector and processor, as in it passes through some video signals while decoding and processing audio signals; and 2) it amplifies the audio signal.

An audio amplifier just amplifies the audio signal. So if you go this route, you need a pre-amplifier. For people who own bungalows and are very rich, they would go this route.

Radio can be useful in times of emergency. When the internet is down and the TV is out, radio delivers the news and music.

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Actually, the Onkyo TX-RZ840 is 2019 model. The US is promoting the Onkyo TX-NR5100. It’s at US$599. The US price is always less than the UK’s. Need to worry about Malaysian Customs that’s all.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainmen...ll-wait-to-buy/
That's the review of the TX-NR5100 that I read. You can look into that.

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Never mind repair. If it’s made here. It can be repaired here. That’s what I did when I bought my 4K UHD BluRay player from eBay USA. So far, playing perfectly. 1/3 the price than Lazada even.
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I guess. Maybe receivers have worldwide warranty or something. I guess you made up your mind about importing. Guess you'll go with North America because it's cheaper than the UK.

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Hey guys what you all thinking about this model? My current TV is Samsung 40 FHD from 2014. I just need this Philips TV to use till 2023 since I will be getting the Sony TV next. Is the 43inch panel is IPS or VA panel? How good is Philips panel picture quality? Is the dynamic range same level as Samsung? Also may I know where does Philips TV made in?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/43PUT7406_68...-led-android-tv
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QUOTE(John42 @ Aug 6 2021, 02:09 PM)
Hey guys what you all thinking about this model? My current TV is Samsung 40 FHD from 2014. I just need this Philips TV to use till 2023 since I will be getting the Sony TV next. Is the 43inch panel is IPS or VA panel? How good is Philips panel picture quality? Is the dynamic range same level as Samsung? Also may I know where does Philips TV made in?

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/43PUT7406_68...-led-android-tv
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Is this already available in Malaysia? As I recall from my recent contact with the Philips CS team, their 2021 range of TVs will not be coming
into Malaysia until Q4 this year or Q1 next year.

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Is this already available in Malaysia? As I recall from my recent contact with the Philips CS team, their 2021 range of TVs will not be coming
into Malaysia until Q4 this year or Q1 next year.

Cheers,
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I am not sure whether is available in MY or not. But it's listed on Philips MY website. Wow Q1 next new no more 2021 model lol. Generally how's Philips TV. Is it good?
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QUOTE(John42 @ Aug 6 2021, 09:58 PM)
I am not sure whether is available in MY or not. But it's listed on Philips MY website. Wow Q1 next new no more 2021 model lol. Generally how's Philips TV. Is it good?
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The 2021 range is definitely not available in Malaysia yet - even the above timeline is quite optimistic as it can change depending on the
current pandemic. Is there a reason why is has to be Philips or are you also willing to consider other brands for the budget? Just curious.


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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 7 2021, 01:50 AM)
The 2021 range is definitely not available in Malaysia yet - even the above timeline is quite optimistic as it can change depending on the
current pandemic. Is there a reason why is has to be Philips or are you also willing to consider other brands for the budget? Just curious.
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Well because the price is cheaper and it comes with android TV. Just need this TV till 2023 since I will be getting Sony TV. Well I just considering. My current TV anytime can die so just doing survey for now. If my current Samsung TV doesn't die then I just wait till 2023 and get a Sony TV. Why 2023 because that's when Sony premium TV might comes with mini led for X90j series or if the prices for the OLED gets cheaper for 48inch I will get the OLED.
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I am not sure whether is available in MY or not. But it's listed on Philips MY website. Wow Q1 next new no more 2021 model lol. Generally how's Philips TV. Is it good?
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I’m happy with my new 55” Android 4K , 2020 model.

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QUOTE(John42 @ Aug 7 2021, 02:23 AM)
Well because the price is cheaper and it comes with android TV. Just need this TV till 2023 since I will be getting Sony TV. Well I just considering. My current TV anytime can die so just doing survey for now. If my current Samsung TV doesn't die then I just wait till 2023 and get a Sony TV. Why 2023 because that's when Sony premium TV might comes with mini led for X90j series or if the prices for the OLED gets cheaper for 48inch I will get the OLED.
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Got it - I am hoping to see if Mini LED actually takes off too and if LG's EVO OLED panel prices get to a slightly more realistic pricing levels too.
The general consensus with Philips is that you can't go wrong with their 7000 / 8000 series TVs and these generally come with Android TV OS.
I personally prefer the PQ of the above Philips models if compared to equivalent Samsung models mainly as their color reproduction and image
processing look more natural to me but this is very subjective indeed. If I am not wrong, the smallest sized UHD Android TV Philips sells locally
is the 50 inch PUT8215 as the smaller models are all either non Android or Android FHD models. Check out the link below :


Philips 43 inch FHD Android TV


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Hi guys, anyone here bought the 50/55PUT8215 from HN online store?

I'm looking for 50" / 55" 4K UHD tv for my parent to replace their stone age Toshiba LCD which suddenly cannot be turn on, but still have power shown at the indicator.

Due to budget constrain, I'm trying to get the best spec vs price within RM2500.

Beside that, did anyone here bought extended warranty from 3 party insurer? Usually how much is the premium for 3 years additional warranty period?
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 7 2021, 02:31 PM)
Got it - I am hoping to see if Mini LED actually takes off too and if LG's EVO OLED panel prices get to a slightly more realistic pricing levels too.
The general consensus with Philips is that you can't go wrong with their 7000 / 8000 series TVs and these generally come with Android TV OS.
I personally prefer the PQ of the above Philips models if compared to equivalent Samsung models mainly as their color reproduction and image
processing look more natural to me but this is very subjective indeed. If I am not wrong, the smallest sized UHD Android TV Philips sells locally
is the 50 inch PUT8215 as the smaller models are all either non Android or Android FHD models. Check out the link below :
Philips 43 inch FHD Android TV
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Reason why not to Buy Smart TV

There are Security Reason...I decide to avoid them....

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Reason why not to Buy Smart TV

There are Security Reason...I decide to avoid them....
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I believe none of the 4K TVs made in the last three years are not Smart TVs. Regardless whether they have Android, Tyzen, VIDAA, Roku or other built-in functions, if they have Netflix and YouTube, they are Smart TVs.

The only way to avoid Smart functions is to buy older 4K TVs or HDTVs, or buy a projector.

But if you're going to use an Android box to connect to the TV anyway or if you're using an Android phone right now, then the point is moot. If you're that "security" conscious, nobody living with you should have smart phones or even computers.

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Guys, I called HN helpline today and they told me that as of today, all their outlets & warehouse have NO READY STOCK for 50/55PUT8215 series...

So is either I buy from other retailer with around RM2200 for 50PUT8215 or preorder with HN with ETA delivery within 14~30 working days.

So happen I come across with another model 50/58PUT6604/98 which the pricing is ard 1.9k & 2.4k respectively.

Now the price of 58PUT6604 looks quite tempting as the cheapest I can get for 55PUT8215 is ard less than 2.6k.

Just wondering what are the major difference between the 6604 & 8215 series beside one is smart tv & another is android tv?

I'm more concern on the screen quality as I know 8215 series are using dual (hard) panel across their 50,55,70 tv. So is 6604 50" or 58" using the same panel as well?

Hopefully some sifus here can clear my doubts.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 12 2021, 04:57 PM)
I believe none of the 4K TVs made in the last three years are not Smart TVs. Regardless whether they have Android, Tyzen, VIDAA, Roku or other built-in functions, if they have Netflix and YouTube, they are Smart TVs.

The only way to avoid Smart functions is to buy older 4K TVs or HDTVs, or buy a projector.

But if you're going to use an Android box to connect to the TV anyway or if you're using an Android phone right now, then the point is moot. If you're that "security" conscious, nobody living with you should have smart phones or even computers.
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I hope you really read the whole article before comment.
The lack of update feature is one of the security issue. Phone/tab/computer has periodical security patches. Even some Android Boxes has update patches.

Devices without constant security update will allow devices camera/mic being hacked frequently. There are several websites which allow ppl to download API to access outdated/unpatched IOT. This software and API is readily made.

Simple example, Camera on SmartTV is on without anyone knowing...

You may youtube for some documentary...

Having said that, if restricted choice on Digital TV with 4K....then this is probably a Technology push by the market for Smart TV. Then will see what offer come next...probably will get one Smart TV-Disabled build-in Android, and get one proper Android Box/buy a Android phone and Chromecast

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I hope you really read the whole article before comment.
I skimmed through because the points I have read before elsewhere.

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The lack of update feature is one of the security issue. Phone/tab/computer has periodical security patches. Even some Android Boxes has update patches.

Devices without constant security update will allow devices camera/mic being hacked frequently. There are several websites which allow ppl to download API to access outdated/unpatched IOT. This software and API is readily made.
This is true.

But unlike phones which needs a constant connection to function, TVs do not. If the TV is not being updated to patch the security and you feel the TV is no longer safe, you can disconnect the LAN cable and remove the WIFI password.

People who don't know how to do this should be cautious. But then they should also be cautious about using their smartphones.

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Having said that, if restricted choice on Digital TV with 4K....then this is probably a Technology push by the market for Smart TV. Then will see what offer come next...probably will get one Smart TV-Disabled build-in Android, and get one proper Android Box/buy a Android phone and Chromecast
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Having a separate Android box is always a better option because their specs are always better than the built-in version in TVs.

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Hi guys.

Just wondering any 55PUT8215 or 58PUT6604?

For 55PUT8215 I manage to obtain RM 2188 and 58PUT6604 RM 2399.

The TV will be use by my parent with a TVBox. So whether it is an Android or Google TV, I think is not that important. What they are more concern is the image quality & size of the screen.

I was told by some salesperson @ hyperstore which has the ready stock for 50PUT8215, that the 8215 series are using hard/dual panel aka IPS panel. So if there is any 58PUT6604 user here that can confirm whether this 58" model also using hard/dual aka IPS panel?

Both this model also have dolby vision & dolby atmos right?


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QUOTE(cskean @ Aug 13 2021, 11:58 PM)
Hi guys.

Just wondering any 55PUT8215 or 58PUT6604?

For 55PUT8215 I manage to obtain RM 2188 and 58PUT6604 RM 2399.

The TV will be use by my parent with a TVBox. So whether it is an Android or Google TV, I think is not that important. What they are more concern is the image quality & size of the screen.

I was told by some salesperson @ hyperstore which has the ready stock for 50PUT8215, that the 8215 series are using hard/dual panel aka IPS panel. So if there is any 58PUT6604 user here that can confirm whether this 58" model also using hard/dual aka IPS panel?

Both this model also have dolby vision & dolby atmos right?
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The 8215 is from their 2020 range running on Android TV OS while the 6604 is an early 2019 model running on Saphi OS (smart TV). Both TVs support
DV / HDR10 & HLG / HDR10+ but the 8215 has a slightly brighter screen (about 350-400 nits) which makes a difference when viewing the said contents;
though not by much

You won't find much user reviews or feedback on the old 6604 models but the local 58 inch is definitely using VA panel and not IPS. Since screen size
and the fact the TV is going to be connected to an ATV box comes into factor, any reason why it has to be IPS screen only? Is the TV being placed in a
living room with a wide seating arrangement? Just wondering ...

Link : Philips 58PUT6604 specs



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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 14 2021, 09:05 PM)
The 8215 is from their 2020 range running on Android TV OS while the 6604 is an early 2019 model running on Saphi OS (smart TV). Both TVs support
DV / HDR10 & HLG / HDR10+ but the 8215 has a slightly brighter screen (about 350-400 nits) which makes a difference when viewing the said contents;
though not by much

You won't find much user reviews or feedback on the old 6604 models but the local 58 inch is definitely using VA panel and not IPS. Since screen size
and the fact the TV is going to be connected to an ATV box comes into factor, any reason why it has to be IPS screen only? Is the TV being placed in a
living room with a wide seating arrangement? Just wondering ...

Link : Philips 58PUT6604 specs
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Thx for the reply & input...

My parent living hall is quite huge and the viewing distance should be around 13ft. So I'm thinking to get them a clearer viewing quality screen as I did compare side by side with different brand single & dual layer panel. The difference between these 2 type of panel seems quite significant to me.

TV OS isn't a big matter as their viewing source is mainly from tvbox. Are both the series support Dolby Vision & Atmos too?

Today I manage to get RM2450 for 55PUT8215, but I didn't ask around for 58PUT6604 yet. I was quoted RM350 for additional 3yrs warranty by 3rd party insurer, is it a reasonable price?

In term of viewing angle & video quality, how much difference between these 2 model?


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QUOTE(cskean @ Aug 15 2021, 01:45 AM)
Thx for the reply & input...

My parent living hall is quite huge and the viewing distance should be around 13ft. So I'm thinking to get them a clearer viewing quality screen as I did compare side by side with different brand single & dual layer panel. The difference between these 2 type of panel seems quite significant to me.

TV OS isn't a big matter as their viewing source is mainly from tvbox. Are both the series support Dolby Vision & Atmos too?

Today I manage to get RM2450 for 55PUT8215, but I didn't ask around for 58PUT6604 yet. I was quoted RM350 for additional 3yrs warranty by 3rd party insurer, is it a reasonable price?

In term of viewing angle & video quality, how much difference between these 2 model?
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Hi bro,

For a 12-13 ft viewing distance, I think even a 58 inch TV is quite small but again it's a matter of preference. The most important factors to
consider between a VA panel and IPS is the contrast ratio and black levels (hence better picture quality) and the viewing angles. VA panels
usually offer better contrast ratio and black levels but it has narrow viewing angles while IPS panels usually have much better viewing angle
when you have a large hall but slightly worse contrast ratio and black levels (more evident in dim lighting environment).

The extended warranty price looks good - some stores tend to charge even higher and it's a good purchase if you're planning to keep your
TV beyond the usual warranty terms.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:25 PM)
Wow

So many bad review
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Wow

So many bad review
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Look at the top of the page next to the Philips logo. Also look at the "Overall Satisfaction Rating". It's not bad.

Here is somebody giving it a one-star review.

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I bought my Philips tv 2 weeks ago and a brand new HDMI cable. It worked perfectly for over 2 weeks then stopped. When I contacted the company they just said it wasn't MHL compatible so they couldn't help me. Even though it worked flawlessly before. I asked if they had a tv that was MHL compatible they said no. So if you expect to use your phone or other device for streaming don't buy Philips.


There's two complaints but it's really just one- that it wasn't MHL compatible. If you didn't check the specs before buying, that's your problem.

Also, if he just bought the TV and it didn't work, they could just return it. Clearly a reviewer who is trolling.


QUOTE(cskean @ Aug 15 2021, 01:45 AM)
My parent living hall is quite huge and the viewing distance should be around 13ft. So I'm thinking to get them a clearer viewing quality screen as I did compare side by side with different brand single & dual layer panel. The difference between these 2 type of panel seems quite significant to me.

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At 13 feet from sofa to TV, I would suggest a 65". An IPS panel would work better for wide viewing angles but VA panel would look the better straight on. You have to think about where they would spend most time watching the TV. If it's at too much of an angle, you need an IPS panel. But who spends most of their time watching TV at an angle?


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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 16 2021, 12:58 AM)
Hi bro,

For a 12-13 ft viewing distance, I think even a 58 inch TV is quite small but again it's a matter of preference. The most important factors to
consider between a VA panel and IPS is the contrast ratio and black levels (hence better picture quality) and the viewing angles. VA panels
usually offer better contrast ratio and black levels but it has narrow viewing angles while IPS panels usually have much better viewing angle
when you have a large hall but slightly worse contrast ratio and black levels (more evident in dim lighting environment).

The extended warranty price looks good - some stores tend to charge even higher and it's a good purchase if you're planning to keep your
TV beyond the usual warranty terms.
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Previously my parent are using 40" LCD which cannot be turn on out of a sudden...

From my own observation with both VA & IPS panel side by side, it seems like IPS display is more promising. Which is why I try to get them a TV with IPS panel.

True enough for the extended warranty pricing as someone told me it would easily cost more than RM400.


QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 16 2021, 02:51 PM)
At 13 feet from sofa to TV, I would suggest a 65". An IPS panel would work better for wide viewing angles but VA panel would look the better straight on. You have to think about where they would spend most time watching the TV. If it's at too much of an angle, you need an IPS panel. But who spends most of their time watching TV at an angle?
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Hahaha, true also. But even from straight point of viewing, I still find IPS panel quality better. Maybe they set the display TV with different setting for VA & IPS panel?
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Hahaha, true also. But even from straight point of viewing, I still find IPS panel quality better. Maybe they set the display TV with different setting for VA & IPS panel?
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Most shops would set it at Demo mode, which is probably what you would have experienced. IPS panels would attract your attention more because of the wider angles. But when it comes to dark scenes, IPS panel would be grey instead of near dark with VA panels. It's especially true when the TV has full-array local dimming capability. Neither of the Philips TVs you shortlisted has FALD.

Anyway, choose a TV based on your space requirement, your budget, the features you want and the use case.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 17 2021, 03:49 PM)
Most shops would set it at Demo mode, which is probably what you would have experienced. IPS panels would attract your attention more because of the wider angles. But when it comes to dark scenes, IPS panel would be grey instead of near dark with VA panels. It's especially true when the TV has full-array local dimming capability. Neither of the Philips TVs you shortlisted has FALD.

Anyway, choose a TV based on your space requirement, your budget, the features you want and the use case.
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Thx for the reply.

I choose the Philips 55PUT8215 as my final choice as the price is quite reasonable and it is a newer model too.

Perhaps for my parent usage with a tvbox, this model should be sufficient as their daily driver.

Plus today the salesperson just text me telling me that Philips is doing Merdeka Promotion for their 7000 & 8000 series tv model. Which they will he giving out tws earbud & 3 months of tvb anywhere+ subscription. Well this are bonus to me even without this promotion, I will be still getting their tv anyway.

Just that if I doesn't need the earbud, then can sell it to further reduce the cost of tv😅
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QUOTE(cskean @ Aug 18 2021, 01:34 AM)
Thx for the reply.

I choose the Philips 55PUT8215 as my final choice as the price is quite reasonable and it is a newer model too.

Perhaps for my parent usage with a tvbox, this model should be sufficient as their daily driver.
The PUT8215 is already an Android TV so you don't need a TV box anymore. So just connect it to Astro, Unifi or an antenna, that'll do it. Hook them up with your Netflix and Disney+ Hotstar account, and they're set.

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Plus today the salesperson just text me telling me that Philips is doing Merdeka Promotion for their 7000 & 8000 series tv model. Which they will he giving out tws earbud & 3 months of tvb anywhere+ subscription. Well this are bonus to me even without this promotion, I will be still getting their tv anyway.

Just that if I doesn't need the earbud, then can sell it to further reduce the cost of tv😅
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Good promo.

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The PUT8215 is already an Android TV so you don't need a TV box anymore. So just connect it to Astro, Unifi or an antenna, that'll do it. Hook them up with your Netflix and Disney+ Hotstar account, and they're set.

Good promo.
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If have a good display 4K UHD tv without android, I would have go for it too. At least can save couple of hundreds ringgit...

The tvbox have a lot live channels & vod in it. So I don't have to subscribe to other services...

Today the tv was delivered and the UI & system is quite easy to navigate too...

One thing I find that the sound is a bit soft from the tv speaker...
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title : BEEN LOOKING FOR PUT7374 FOR AWHILE NOW ( until the new 8215 come out.. so which one is better or "okay" erish )

not dare to pull the trigger on 7.7 and 8.8.

really need a tv rite now coz now my pc is useless without my monitor..
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 20 2021, 04:34 PM)
title : BEEN LOOKING FOR PUT7374 FOR AWHILE NOW ( until the new 8215 come out.. so which one is better or "okay" erish )

not dare to pull the trigger on 7.7 and 8.8.

really need a tv rite now coz now my pc is useless without my monitor..
( rent out to my boys to watch youtube kids since they kungfued my last tv )
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What sizes are you looking for? As far I know, the PUT7374 is only available in 55 and 65 inch versions while the PUT8215 is
available in 50, 55 and 70 inch versions locally. The PUT8215 is basically an updated version of the PUT7374 but without the
Ambilight feature.
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my philips tv dont have ARC. just normal HDMI.

if i buy a soundbar with ARC, can it read the soundbar read the input from the TV ?


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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 20 2021, 09:51 PM)
What sizes are you looking for? As far I know, the PUT7374 is only available in 55 and 65 inch versions while the PUT8215 is
available in 50, 55 and 70 inch versions locally. The PUT8215 is basically an updated version of the PUT7374 but without the
Ambilight feature.
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Ah I see.. so if I just ignore the ambilight.. 8215 is the better buy lah..
I think 50 or 55 is ok.. 65 maybe out of my league already
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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Aug 21 2021, 04:57 PM)
my philips tv dont have ARC. just normal HDMI.

if i buy a soundbar with ARC, can it read the soundbar read the input from the TV ?
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If the TV doesn't have ARC, you can use the optical cable from the TV to the soundbar to get sound, if the soundbar has optical as an input.

I don't know if a TV without ARC would be a Smart TV. Of course you didn't say which TV it is. If you use the TV as the main HDMI switcher, that's the way to do it.

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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 22 2021, 03:44 PM)
If the TV doesn't have ARC, you can use the optical cable from the TV to the soundbar to get sound, if the soundbar has optical as an input.

I don't know if a TV without ARC would be a Smart TV. Of course you didn't say which TV it is. If you use the TV as the main HDMI switcher, that's the way to do it.
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the TV does not have optical port.

https://www.philips.com.my/c-p/32PHA4100S_9...-clear/overview


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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Aug 22 2021, 04:25 PM)
So I thought I already replied to your post here but I guess you didn't know how that works.

So first, how a soundbar with a TV supposed to work.

Soundbar <- HDMI ARC -> TV

In the above setup, the TV should be a SmartTV because then you can use that function to watch Netflix for instance from the TV and have the audio information sent to the soundbar via ARC.


For your setup, there's two ways to get a soundbar in play.

Media player/PS4 -> HDMI -> Soundbar with HDMI Input/s and Output -> HDMI -> Philips PHA4100S

The soundbar MUST have at least ONE HDMI INPUT and ONE HDMI OUTPUT. Because you want to connect your PS4 with the soundbar, that's how it has to be done. Something like this RM1,000 Samsung HW-A550 soundbar.


If you can't spend that much money, then buy a soundbar or powered bookshelf speakers and get an HDMI audio extractor like this.
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Media player/PS4 -> Audio Extractor -> HDMI -> Philips PHA4100S
Audio Extractor -> Optical or RCA cables -> Soundbar or speakers.


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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 22 2021, 07:59 PM)
So I thought I already replied to your post here but I guess you didn't know how that works.

So first, how a soundbar with a TV supposed to work.

Soundbar <- HDMI ARC -> TV

In the above setup, the TV should be a SmartTV because then you can use that function to watch Netflix for instance from the TV and have the audio information sent to the soundbar via ARC.
For your setup, there's two ways to get a soundbar in play.

Media player/PS4 -> HDMI -> Soundbar with HDMI Input/s and Output -> HDMI -> Philips PHA4100S

The soundbar MUST have at least ONE HDMI INPUT and ONE HDMI OUTPUT. Because you want to connect your PS4 with the soundbar, that's how it has to be done. Something like this RM1,000 Samsung HW-A550 soundbar.
If you can't spend that much money, then buy a soundbar or powered bookshelf speakers and get an HDMI audio extractor like this.
user posted image

Media player/PS4 -> Audio Extractor -> HDMI -> Philips PHA4100S
                               Audio Extractor -> Optical or RCA cables -> Soundbar or speakers.
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Media player/PS4 -> HDMI -> Soundbar with HDMI Input/s and Output -> HDMI -> Philips PHA4100S

are you sure this setup will work? no sound/sync issue ? i heard some people say this setup caused the mouth slower than the voice.

if this is the case, i prefer to just buy sony's HT-X8500 since it got Atmos support.

X8500

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Aug 21 2021, 06:51 PM)
Ah I see.. so if I just ignore the ambilight.. 8215 is the better buy lah..
I think 50 or 55 is ok.. 65 maybe out of my league already
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They are almost identical without the Ambilight feature but it's better to buy the newer model also in view of OS support from
Philips. The PUT8215 is a great for the price with Dolby Vision, HDR10+ and HLG with Dolby Atmos support. I think there is a
promotion going on from Philips for AUG with free TWS earbuds for this model.
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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Aug 22 2021, 09:08 PM)
are you sure this setup will work? no sound/sync issue ? i heard some people say this setup caused the mouth slower than the voice.
I'm sure it'll work. I don't know if there will be a sync issue. The HDMI Audio Extractor is like RM50. The Sony is RM900 at the cheapest price that I saw. RM50 vs RM900.

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if this is the case, i prefer to just buy sony's HT-X8500 since it got Atmos support.
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The HT-X8500 is still a 2.1 stereo soundbar. It'll give you a simulated surround sound, which is not that much better than getting a pair of powered bookshelf speakers.

I would spend that money getting a bigger TV, preferably 4K.
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QUOTE(writesimply @ Aug 23 2021, 02:53 PM)
I'm sure it'll work. I don't know if there will be a sync issue. The HDMI Audio Extractor is like RM50. The Sony is RM900 at the cheapest price that I saw. RM50 vs RM900.

The HT-X8500 is still a 2.1 stereo soundbar. It'll give you a simulated surround sound, which is not that much better than getting a pair of powered bookshelf speakers.

I would spend that money getting a bigger TV, preferably 4K.
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do you think there is a 4K TV that have acceptable speakers?
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 23 2021, 09:18 AM)
They are almost identical without the Ambilight feature but it's better to buy the newer model also in view of OS support from
Philips. The PUT8215 is a great for the price with Dolby Vision, HDR10+ and HLG with Dolby Atmos support. I think there is a
promotion going on from Philips for AUG with free TWS earbuds for this model.
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Anyone knows if the 55PUT8215 and 58PUT6604 panel are glossy or semi glossy or matte screen
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do you think there is a 4K TV that have acceptable speakers?
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Anyone knows if the 55PUT8215 and 58PUT6604 panel are glossy or semi glossy or matte screen
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 23 2021, 09:18 AM)
They are almost identical without the Ambilight feature but it's better to buy the newer model also in view of OS support from
Philips. The PUT8215 is a great for the price with Dolby Vision, HDR10+ and HLG with Dolby Atmos support. I think there is a
promotion going on from Philips for AUG with free TWS earbuds for this model.
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Is that ok with Bluetooth 4.2 on Philips 50' PUT8215? saw nowadays already 5.0.. Means is that 4.2 or 5.0 matter?
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Is that ok with Bluetooth 4.2 on Philips 50' PUT8215? saw nowadays already 5.0.. Means is that 4.2 or 5.0 matter?
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The short answer is yes, BT 5.0 will make a difference if both the devices are BT 5.0 capable - your TV and your headphone for example.
BT 5.0 is an enhanced version of BT 4.2 but it is also backward compatible to BT 4.2 or older. I could be wrong but most of the entry and
mid-range TV models are still on BT 4.2 so to me at least it is not a deal breaker.
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Sep 2 2021, 01:13 AM)
The short answer is yes, BT 5.0 will make a difference if both the devices are BT 5.0 capable - your TV and your headphone for example.
BT 5.0 is an enhanced version of BT 4.2 but it is also backward compatible to BT 4.2 or older. I could be wrong but most of the entry and
mid-range TV models are still on BT 4.2 so to me at least it is not a deal breaker.
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i see.. Because i went to HLK Store and the offer me around RM2200.. Since you said that BT 5.0 is matter, should i consider another brand? like Sharp 4TC-50BK1X..?
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i see.. Because i went to HLK Store and the offer me around RM2200.. Since you said that BT 5.0 is matter, should i consider another brand? like Sharp 4TC-50BK1X..?
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Personally I will go with the Philips mainly because to Sharp tends to advertise capabilities such as HDR10 or HLG which in real experience may not
be the case. The BK1X does have BT 5.0 but the PUT8215 has a better picture processor and HDR10+, HLG and DV support. Is there a reason why
BT 5.0 is a must for you? What will you be using it for?
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i see.. Because i went to HLK Store and the offer me around RM2200.. Since you said that BT 5.0 is matter, should i consider another brand? like Sharp 4TC-50BK1X..?
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Read this article about the differences between BT 4.2 and 5.0.

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Philips OLED...(not yet in Malaysia)

https://www.whathifi.com/amp/news/philips-o...e-2021-tv-range

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Is posted earlier that OLED is available in Singapore, but not here (yet).

https://www.philips.com.sg/c-m-so/tv/latest#availability=all

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Today i went to Aeon Big Mid Valley to look closely on my targeted model, Philips 50' 50PUT8215.. At first when i look on that model, the screen seems a bit natural and not vibrant.. Then after the salesman change to latest 4K Video, then realise that the color is so beautiful.. 😅

But that salesman said this 50' 50PUT8215 only using single panel and its good if we watch it straight view, but if look at side angle view, its noticeable a bit dim.

Then he show me the 55' 55PUT8215.. He said that the 55' is using dual panel, color is very good.. Then if i look at side angle view, the screen is same as we look it straight.. He said its because of dual panel..

So my question, is it 50' and 55' using different LED panel? Salesman said the only difference between both model are single panel / dual panel and the size 50 / 55
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QUOTE(aregip @ Sep 19 2021, 08:48 PM)
Today i went to Aeon Big Mid Valley to look closely on my targeted model,  Philips 50' 50PUT8215.. At first when i look on that model, the screen seems a bit natural and not vibrant.. Then after the salesman change to latest 4K Video, then realise that the color is so beautiful.. 😅

But that salesman said this 50' 50PUT8215 only using single panel and its good if we watch it straight view, but if look at side angle view, its noticeable a bit dim.

Then he show me the 55' 55PUT8215.. He said that the 55' is using dual panel, color is very good.. Then if i look at side angle view, the screen is same as we look it straight.. He said its because of dual panel..

So my question, is it 50' and 55' using different LED panel? Salesman said the only difference between both model are  single panel / dual panel and the size 50 / 55
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Only difference is that 55PUT8215 has Micro Dimming Pro.
Both is with Direct LED, VA panel.

https://www.philips.com.my/etc/philips/b2c/...68,55PUT8215/68

Btw,

FINALLY...OLED and MiniLED is listed for 2021 models..... biggrin.gif

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#

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[quote=stasio,Sep 19 2021, 09:00 PM]
Only difference is that 55PUT8215 has Micro Dimming Pro.
Both is with Direct LED, VA panel.

https://www.philips.com.my/etc/philips/b2c/...68,55PUT8215/68

I see.. So both panel actually the same right? So the salesman gave me a false information.. 😂😂

So if like that, then 50' is enough.. But do Micro Dimming Pro better?
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QUOTE(stasio @ Sep 19 2021, 09:00 PM)
Only difference is that 55PUT8215 has Micro Dimming Pro.
Both is with Direct LED, VA panel.

https://www.philips.com.my/etc/philips/b2c/...68,55PUT8215/68

Btw,

FINALLY...OLED and MiniLED is listed for 2021 models..... biggrin.gif

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#
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I have asked Philips TV thru Shopee Chat.. below is their reply..

hi sir/madam, i explain it clearly ya, for 8215 series is using same hard panel, for 50 inch is hard panel with single panel & for 55 inch is hard panel with dual panel ya smile.gif

That why when i look at both, its look differently especially on the side view..
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after so long cctv .. bought 55put7473 on 9.9
the offer for 25.9k coins , 5y warranty and free philips tws for total of 2.6k with shipping.

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What’s the purpose of ambient light? A friend has a Philips ambient TV in Amsterdam and I found it very irritating with the light in the background. ( This was 4 years ago).
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QUOTE(Vanquish_08 @ Aug 23 2021, 09:18 AM)
They are almost identical without the Ambilight feature but it's better to buy the newer model also in view of OS support from
Philips. The PUT8215 is a great for the price with Dolby Vision, HDR10+ and HLG with Dolby Atmos support. I think there is a
promotion going on from Philips for AUG with free TWS earbuds for this model.
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Finally i read all pages of this thread but still undecided for Philips 55PUT7374 or 55PUT8215/68. Both of them have similar pricing. Can I know where is this promotion which is free TWS earbud?

I checked the price from Harvey norman and found out 7374 higher than 8215. Weird is it because of the ambient light?

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put7374.html

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put8215.html

Any guidances for me to choose between these 2 models? How about their sound quality? Preferably Android TV but will still connect with tv box due to some livestreaming. Really appreciated all bro's comments.
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QUOTE(GuyB @ Sep 27 2021, 09:51 PM)
What’s the purpose of ambient light? A friend has a Philips ambient TV in Amsterdam and I found it very irritating with the light in the background. ( This was 4 years ago).
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I try off the ambilight. feel like my eye hurt abit more .
so turn on the ambilight back ..
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Btw,

FINALLY...OLED and MiniLED is listed for 2021 models..... biggrin.gif
Any idea when their new models will be available?? Specially interested in their Mini-LED line up and how will it compare to the Samsung NEO QLED.

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QUOTE(ideaplus @ Sep 30 2021, 09:30 AM)
Finally i read all pages of this thread but still undecided for Philips 55PUT7374 or 55PUT8215/68. Both of them have similar pricing. Can I know where is this promotion which is free TWS earbud?

I checked the price from Harvey norman and found out 7374 higher than 8215. Weird is it because of the ambient light?

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put7374.html

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put8215.html

Any guidances for me to choose between these 2 models? How about their sound quality? Preferably Android TV but will still connect with tv box due to some livestreaming. Really appreciated all bro's comments.
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In the last 2 weeks, I'm doing some survey and do some research on 50PUT8215, 55PUT8215, 55PUT7374 and i found out that:


50PUT8215
-2021 model (can see in Philips website)
- VA Single hard panel
- P5 processor
- Android TV
- Pictures Performance Index (PPI) - Unknown
- Price RM2200-2300

55PUT8215
-2021 model (can see in Philips website)
- VA Dual hard panel
- P5 processor
- Android TV
- Pictures Performance Index (PPI) - Unknown
- Price RM 2500-2600


55PUT7374
- 2020 model (can see in Philips website)
- Got ambilight
- VA Dual hard panel
- P5 Processor
- Android TV
- 1700 Pictures Performance Index (PPI)
- Price RM 2600-2700

From my perspective, I saw that 55PUT7374 is more better in term of color rich, brightness and very smooth motion (1700 PPI) despite for me ambilight is a bonus.. The motion is very smooth.. even though it is 2020 model (before this stated as 2019 model, but then Philips update and put in 2020 model list)..

Specification for both 7300 series and 8200 series more or less are same..

But Philips representative in Philips TV Chat said that if you wanna optimize the viewing experience with faster RAM can select 8200 series..

So, for me, i will go for Philips 55PUT7374 and will buy it after got my key house.. rclxm9.gif


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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 1 2021, 09:44 AM)
In the last 2 weeks, I'm doing some survey and do some research on 50PUT8215, 55PUT8215, 55PUT7374 and i found out that:
50PUT8215
-2021 model (can see in Philips website)
- VA Single hard panel
- P5 processor
- Android TV
- Pictures Performance Index (PPI) - Unknown
- Price RM2200-2300

55PUT8215
-2021 model (can see in Philips website)
- VA Dual hard panel
- P5 processor
- Android TV
- Pictures Performance Index (PPI) - Unknown
- Price RM 2500-2600
55PUT7374
- 2020 model (can see in Philips website)
- Got ambilight
- VA Dual hard panel
- P5 Processor
- Android TV
- 1700 Pictures Performance Index (PPI)
- Price RM 2600-2700

From my perspective, I saw that 55PUT7374 is more better in term of color rich, brightness and very smooth motion (1700 PPI) despite for me ambilight is a bonus.. The motion is very smooth.. even though it is 2020 model (before this stated as 2019 model, but then Philips update and put in 2020 model list)..

Specification for both 7300 series and 8200 series more or less are same..

But Philips representative in Philips TV Chat said that if you wanna optimize the viewing experience with faster RAM can select 8200 series..

So, for me, i will go for Philips 55PUT7374 and will buy it after got my key house.. rclxm9.gif
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GOT my 557374 on 9.9 sales. i love it
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GOT my 557374 on 9.9 sales. i love it
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Congrat! I cant pull the trigger yet.. Waiting until i got my key house by end of this yer, then will buy it.. Hehe
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QUOTE(ideaplus @ Sep 30 2021, 09:30 AM)
Finally i read all pages of this thread but still undecided for Philips 55PUT7374 or 55PUT8215/68. Both of them have similar pricing. Can I know where is this promotion which is free TWS earbud?

I checked the price from Harvey norman and found out 7374 higher than 8215. Weird is it because of the ambient light?

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put7374.html

https://www.harveynorman.com.my/tv-and-audi...-55put8215.html

Any guidances for me to choose between these 2 models? How about their sound quality? Preferably Android TV but will still connect with tv box due to some livestreaming. Really appreciated all bro's comments.
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You can't really go wrong with either one of them but Philips' pricing sometimes can be hard to understand when they are still commanding a premium
for their 2019 range. Whatever said and done, the 7374 is from their 2019 model range while the 8215 is from their 2020 range. The 7374 has the 1st
generation P5 processor but I am not sure if the 8215 is using the same version or if it received the much better 2nd generation P5. Both are running
Android TV 9.0 but the 7374 will not be getting the upgrade to 10.0 but I can't confirm for the 8215.

The main selling point for the 7374 is the Ambilight feature but it's not something that everyone likes so it is really a matter of personal choice. Both
TVs support Dolby Atmos so that's a nice feature at this price point but they are pretty much the same with other TVs in terms of SQ in general. So it
might be better to opt for a decent soundbar if you are serious about your SQ. The Free TWS promo was part of their Merdeka sale via their Lazada
and Shopee stores but I am quite sure that has ended.

Cheers,
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QUOTE(mufihamid @ Oct 1 2021, 12:01 AM)
Any idea when their new models will be available?? Specially interested in their Mini-LED line up and how will it compare to the Samsung NEO QLED.
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During my last chat with their CS rep, the intended launch timeline for their 2021 model range will be around the 4th quarter of this year
or even 1st quarter of next year. Current supply chain issues and general shortage of electronic components is impacting everyone and it
is also one of the reasons why Philips only brought just 1 model from their 2020 range into Malaysia last year. Hopefully we will see some
of their more interesting models coming through soon.
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hi otai's,

i own 55put8215 for about 1 month already but still searching for the best picture setting. already googled it but cannot fine specifically for this model
appreciate if u guys share the setting that u guys use so i can try it out smile.gif

thanks,
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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 1 2021, 07:40 PM)
Congrat! I cant pull the trigger yet.. Waiting until i got my key house by end of this yer, then will buy it.. Hehe
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haha.. I already paid deposit for 55PUT7374 yesterday at HLK.. Got it at a price RM2,600.. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 6 2021, 10:19 AM)
haha.. I already paid deposit for 55PUT7374 yesterday at HLK.. Got it at a price RM2,600.. rclxm9.gif
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not bad considering non sales duration now..
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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 6 2021, 10:19 AM)
haha.. I already paid deposit for 55PUT7374 yesterday at HLK.. Got it at a price RM2,600.. rclxm9.gif
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if u wait for 10.10 sale, probably can get free 3 year extended warranty with same price at official Philips TV official shopee.
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Any review for 50PUT8115 model?
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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 1 2021, 09:44 AM)
very smooth motion (1700 PPI) despite for me ambilight is a bonus.. The motion is very smooth.. even though it is 2020 model
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Did you compare those tv's side by side before makes that conclusion?
There's no jerkiness, juddering etc etc in busy scenes at all?
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QUOTE(X_F@cT0R @ Oct 7 2021, 01:29 AM)
Did you compare those tv's side by side before makes that conclusion?
There's no jerkiness, juddering etc etc in busy scenes at all?
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Ya, I already compared 8215 and 7374 side by side, not only 1 shop, but at 3 or 4 different shops.. during comparison, i'm not only look on pre installed demo video in those tv, but also tried to play a real 4K HDR video via youtube.. the PPI is very noticable.. i'm not gonna say that 8215 is not good, but I have my own requirement.. but on 8215 series, yes i noticed on juddering motion..

So far i'm really satisfied on 7374..not only motion, but on color richness also noticeable, 7374 is better on my eyes.. got dual VA hard panel, the speaker also got 20Watt (10w x 2) and quite good..

for ambilight i dont care because for me, its only a bonus.. it can be turned off..
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I believe the 55 put8215 is IPS panel and the 55 7374 is VA panel. Better contrast on the VA but the IPS has full features for Smart TV including DV and HDR.
The 70 put8215 is also VA but of inferior quality and lousy speakers for a 70in TV . I almost bought this but it is still good for its price at rm4k+. Colors of skin tone is natural and pleasing on most Philips TV.

This are my observation.

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QUOTE(k0p3p0d @ Oct 6 2021, 01:30 PM)
if u wait for 10.10 sale, probably can get free 3 year extended warranty with same price at official Philips TV official shopee.
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yeah. definetely i recommended that move
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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Oct 7 2021, 09:17 PM)
I believe the 55 put8215 is IPS panel and the 55 7374 is VA panel. Better contrast on the VA but the IPS has full features for Smart TV including DV and HDR.
The 70 put8215 is also VA  but of inferior quality and lousy speakers for a 70in TV . I almost bought this but it is still good for its price at rm4k+. Colors of skin tone is natural and pleasing on most Philips TV.

This are my observation.
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for the panel, I have made a confirmation with Philips Salesman, Philips TV Shopee and Philips TV Facebook.. All of them said that 50PUT8215 using Single VA Hard Panel, while 55PUT8215 using Dual VA Hard Panel (all i can says that 55 inch and above using Dual Panel)..

Ya, 8215 series color is more natural and pleasing..
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I'm waiting my 55put8215 coming, but seems like 7374 is better in term of viewing quality? sad.gif
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QUOTE(ideaplus @ Oct 11 2021, 09:01 AM)
I'm waiting my 55put8215 coming, but seems like 7374 is better in term of viewing quality?  sad.gif
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I dont know la what its like on other people's eyes.. but for me its very noticeable.. 8215 is more to natural color, but for 7374, the color brightness was awesome..

You can see the link below on how the 1700 PPI.. See the movement..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5CMT_ZLXQ&t=127s

But everyone got their own requirement.. for me, i love the 7374.. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 11 2021, 02:43 PM)
I dont know la what its like on other people's eyes.. but for me its very noticeable.. 8215 is more to natural color, but for 7374, the color brightness was awesome..

You can see the link below on how the 1700 PPI.. See the movement..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5CMT_ZLXQ&t=127s

But everyone got their own requirement.. for me, i love the 7374.. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(aregip @ Oct 11 2021, 02:43 PM)
I dont know la what its like on other people's eyes.. but for me its very noticeable.. 8215 is more to natural color, but for 7374, the color brightness was awesome..

You can see the link below on how the 1700 PPI.. See the movement..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5CMT_ZLXQ&t=127s

But everyone got their own requirement.. for me, i love the 7374.. icon_idea.gif
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Haha, I can't compare 7374 with 8215 and that's why I just bought the 8215. It reached yesterday and so far for me is ok, since no comparisons can be made. However, I noticed there are some leaking lights at the top left, maybe 3 spots from the top. Not so serious, but quite annoying when watching in the dark.
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 1 2021, 03:47 PM)
GOT my 557374 on 9.9 sales. i love it
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from which shopee/lazada did you bought ya?
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QUOTE(gocawesome @ Oct 27 2021, 02:39 PM)
from which shopee/lazada did you bought ya?
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Sellers clear stock from 2019 model.
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QUOTE(stasio @ Oct 27 2021, 04:04 PM)
Sellers clear stock from 2019 model.
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yes i know that. i just want to know from which seller did he bought. wanna see their current price right now.
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I just bought 65PUT6654 for my parent. After several days, the TV keep turn off by itself every 3-4 hours. Is it the setting or the TV is defective?
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QUOTE(Russkij @ Oct 29 2021, 09:27 AM)
I just bought 65PUT6654 for my parent. After several days, the TV keep turn off by itself every 3-4 hours. Is it the setting or the TV is defective?
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Check whether the timer is set or not.
Or claim back for warranty.
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QUOTE(gocawesome @ Oct 27 2021, 02:39 PM)
from which shopee/lazada did you bought ya?
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philips.os official store
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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Oct 29 2021, 03:15 PM)
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alright thanks. will check on them for the incoming 11.11 sales. currently back and forth between philips 55' 7374 with hisense 55' A6100G (budget tv haha) rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(gocawesome @ Oct 29 2021, 09:00 PM)
alright thanks. will check on them for the incoming 11.11 sales. currently back and forth between philips 55' 7374 with hisense 55' A6100G (budget tv haha)  rclxub.gif
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bro, which TV u got at the end? Any review? I'm in the market also for a budget TV around 2-2.5k range..
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Just wonder if anyone here got a same prob with me?

My Philips TV will lost connection to WiFi after waking up from sleep. It wont reconnect manually even when I rescan and keyin the password. I have to power cycle the TV then only it will connect.

Maybe not related but this only started to happen after I connected a soundbar to the TV few weeks ago.

No changes to my network or router since I bought the TV.

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mine so far ok/ but from another forum
few user have problem with maxis router wifi on their phone.
lost connection like u
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is 55PUT7374 still a good buy? or other model is better?

i want to try the ambilight feature
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If i'm planning to buy a budget UHD TV and go for philips.. which model should I choose (50")?
50PUT8215
50PUT6604

What's the differnce apart from Smart vs Android, which one better? in term of images or quality...
Don't mind smart tv, probably will use Android Box...
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QUOTE(d3v073d_50uL @ Feb 17 2022, 12:15 AM)
If i'm planning to buy a budget UHD TV and go for philips.. which model should I choose (50")?
50PUT8215
50PUT6604

What's the differnce apart from Smart vs Android, which one better? in term of images or quality...
Don't mind smart tv, probably will use Android Box...
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Nothing much different between Smart vs Android in terms of quality. Just that Android TV supports more apps compared to "Smart", which are limited to any apps that the TV manufacturer develops.
Note also that "Android TV" devices (TV built in, as well as stuffs like Mibox S, Mecool, etc) is different from "Android Box". It has the necessary DRM to support streaming apps (like Netflix/VIU/Unifi TV/BBC), something that those cheap android boxes can't support since it doesn't come with DRM.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Feb 17 2022, 06:16 AM)
Nothing much different between Smart vs Android in terms of quality. Just that Android TV supports more apps compared to "Smart",  which are limited to any apps that the TV manufacturer develops.
Note also that "Android TV" devices (TV built in, as well as stuffs like Mibox S, Mecool, etc) is different from "Android Box". It has the necessary DRM to support streaming apps (like Netflix/VIU/Unifi TV/BBC), something that those cheap android boxes can't support since it doesn't come with DRM.
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Thanks..

So.. basically.. between these two.. nothing much different in term of picture quality?
That's my main concern for choosing... since price difference ~RM2-300...
I got Mibox S lying around... so, no problem even if it Smart TV.
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QUOTE(d3v073d_50uL @ Feb 17 2022, 11:30 AM)
Thanks..

So.. basically.. between these two.. nothing much different in term of picture quality?
That's my main concern for choosing... since price difference ~RM2-300...
I got Mibox S lying around... so, no problem even if it Smart TV.
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Did you read previous posts ?
Both models are Android TV, but probably different version.
PUT6604 .....year 2019
PUT8215.....year 2020
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QUOTE(stasio @ Feb 17 2022, 01:48 PM)
Did you read previous posts ?
Both models are Android TV, but probably different version.
PUT6604 .....year 2019
PUT8215.....year 2020
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Eh.. i read wrong?
I thought the 6604 only Smart TV, not an Android?
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Eh.. i read wrong?
I thought the 6604 only Smart TV, not an Android?
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Yeah, probably you are right, but why looking for model 3 years old in first place?
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Coz i'm just looking for a basic UHD TV... Don't really need all the extras
Philips seems to have a quite cheap options.
Price between two around 2-300...
I know there's brand like Haier, Hisense and Skyworth... but i don't have experience with those brands...
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Its 2022 now not sure it is still worth it to buy PUT7374. The price is competitive given the specs compared to other TVs around the price range.

Currently weighing between:
1. Philips 65PUT7374
2. Sony KD-65X80J

I have another in mind the 2021, Philips 65PUT7906 but unfortunately not available in my area in Sarawak.
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QUOTE(adriansie @ Mar 3 2022, 11:34 AM)
Its 2022 now not sure it is still worth it to buy PUT7374. The price is competitive given the specs compared to other TVs around the price range.

Currently weighing between:
1. Philips 65PUT7374
2. Sony KD-65X80J

I have another in mind the 2021, Philips 65PUT7906 but unfortunately not available in my area in Sarawak.
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How much u find the sony 80J?

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Anyone tried plug in USB to Gigabit LAN into PUT8215? Can share what model of adapter to purchase?

I saw in av forums and reddit some Android TV managed to use the adapter without any software modification
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Hi guys, I’m considering to get
65PUT7906, mostly for the ambient light feature
Any owner can comment on the smoothness of the android tv ui? They don’t exactly list the processor other than quad core

Also, do i still need dolby atmos soundbar or the tv speaker is sufficient?

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jun 3 2022, 07:38 PM)
Hi guys, I’m considering to get
65PUT7906, mostly for the ambient light feature
Any owner can comment on the smoothness of the android tv ui? They don’t exactly list the processor other than quad core

Also, do i still need dolby atmos soundbar or the tv speaker is sufficient?
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Owner of 55put7374 here. Used it bout 1 year alr. No big problem yet. What can I say is the UI feel a bit unresponsive sometimes. Not as smooth as smart tv ofkos. Meh, still acceptable for me.

Yes, you definitely need the soundbar if you plan on buying the Philips TVs. The speaker is just so bad. Not loud at all and flat as earth (lol). I recommend Creative Stage V2! This soundbar is just ummphh! Perfecto. Cant find anything else better below RM500.
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QUOTE(adukafighter @ Jul 5 2022, 02:05 AM)
Owner of 55put7374 here. Used it bout 1 year alr. No big problem yet. What can I say is the UI feel a bit unresponsive sometimes. Not as smooth as smart tv ofkos. Meh, still acceptable for me.

Yes, you definitely need the soundbar if you plan on buying the Philips TVs. The speaker is just so bad. Not loud at all and flat as earth (lol). I recommend Creative Stage V2! This soundbar is just ummphh! Perfecto. Cant find anything else better below RM500.
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Seems like my cheaper android box (tivo 4k, onn) still a lot smoother than the tv. I guess i just expected more from a model released this year.
I just find annoying there’s no long press for the volume keys. The volume is 60? Need to press vol down 20-30 times

As for the creative stage v2 soundbar, does it need to support dolby atmos like the tv?
I also still got pioneer 5.1 speakers but the receiver/bluray player no sound output, was wondering if i could just replace it with another and keep the speakers

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jun 3 2022, 07:38 PM)
Hi guys, I’m considering to get
65PUT7906, mostly for the ambient light feature
Any owner can comment on the smoothness of the android tv ui? They don’t exactly list the processor other than quad core

Also, do i still need dolby atmos soundbar or the tv speaker is sufficient?
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I'm too looking at this Philips model now - 7906 (either 65" or 70").
still couldn't decide (option B will be Samsung BU8000 or Q60)

Anyone knows whether this model is using a VA panel or an IPS?


At night I usually watch TV in my cozy dim room, very dim or total dark room sometimes.
I'm very particular about the backlit lights. What I found out is that IPS has more leak in dark images/scenes as compared to VA panels. VA has better contrasts and more black it seems.

Does the 7906 has this issue?



My existing Samsung (7 years old) does a very good job in this area, black is black even when watching in a dark room.
no "leakage".


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Philips PUx7906....seemse is IPS (Edge LED).... blush.gif
But still need to double check with distributor.

2 best site for specification....

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/philips_pus7906_2021.php
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/c0832625



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QUOTE(stasio @ Sep 2 2022, 10:42 PM)
Philips PUx7906....seemse is IPS (Edge LED).... blush.gif
But still need to double check with distributor.

2 best site for specification....

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/philips_pus7906_2021.php
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/c0832625


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I finally purchased this model.
7906

65" is IPS
70" is VA


I took the 70" . And it came with a Philips soundbar - Free.
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So far i'm happy with it. no issues watching this tv in the dark.

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Philips announces 2023 LCD TVs....

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1675782000
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1675782001

https://www.philips.com.my/c-m-so/tv/latest#


Interesting, nice specification...latest MediaTek Pentonic SoC...

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any pricing announced yet?
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This tv PUT 8215 is for budget conscious people... get this if u just want to save on costs

Regardin direct connection of audio to TV

For soundbars > if soundbar support DD plus or atmos or some kind of virtual 5.1 effect . - just set to bypass or multichannl
For soundbars that support only stereo - multichannel or bypass ( if u want uncompressed clearer audio , set to stereo uncompressed but with will be just 2.1)

personally i set all to uncomressed stereo and it sounds great n my yamaha SRb20A soundbar

Hoever this tv does not support uncompressed 5.1 or 7.1 or atmos through hdmi ( u need Earc for this)..






There is newer model of this tv with Earc and Light sensor >> PUT 8217
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 4 2020, 06:18 PM)
someone said Philips TV not very long lasting...
2years like that.. sure problems..

open up the TV... parts from others brand TV like LG, Samsung etc.
so basically they don't really produce the parts. mostly bought outside...
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All manufacturer sources more than 50% of component from component manufacturers which are not TV producers. This is reality.

Answering to old tered laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 20 2023, 04:38 PM)
All manufacturer sources more than 50% of component from component manufacturers which are not TV producers. This is reality.

Answering to old tered  laugh.gif
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Lolz...
Surprised to see reply for 3 years ago posting 🤪😅

Anyway...

Probably from Samsung...
That's why 2 years or so Kaput the TV
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 20 2023, 05:45 PM)
Lolz...
Surprised to see reply for 3 years ago posting 🤪😅

Anyway...

Probably from Samsung...
That's why 2 years or so Kaput the TV
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TV kaput in 2 years is good because the warranty is 2 years. A the end of year 2, no more spare part. So you get full refund.  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 21 2023, 11:00 AM)
If take extended warranty is better 👌
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Yes, because not much additional. The point is you get your money back.

I bought a Super UHD Samsung which is just display set on clearance because new model is coming. Still get full 2 years warranty. Just 1 month before expiring, the screen one hot spot. Samsung authorize repair shop came and check. They knew because it was known issue. No more spare part because no more in production. So, Samsung gave full purchase price refund. Bought another new series which is now known as Q-LED which was on introduction offer at the same amount of the refund. Basically free new TV.

This time I paid for extended warranty but unfortunately still good. Was hoping it become bad laugh.gif
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Anyone still using Philips TV.
AFTER NEW UPDATE. CANNOT activate real debrid..

Please don't update the tv
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Anyone still using Philips TV.
AFTER NEW UPDATE. CANNOT activate real debrid..

Please don't update the tv
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In kodi, stremio?
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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Apr 21 2023, 04:26 PM)
In kodi, stremio?
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ok done already. need to factory reset back and do the setup from scratch.

btw wifi connection kinda slow to wake up compared to before update.

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Hi anybody has the latest Philips OLEDPhilips OLED

Cannot find it neither at Shopee nor Lazada
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Just discovered diyhue that works with 3rd party lights
Unfortunately my ambilight tv doesn't have ambilight hue option in the setting.
Apparently some tv models omit hue feature, they sure didn't mention this on the website
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hi anyone know legit replacement remote for PUT7374?
or have one to sell to me?
thanks
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post Sep 25 2023, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Sep 25 2023, 10:08 AM)
hi anyone know legit replacement remote for PUT7374?
or have one to sell to me?
thanks
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did you try to search it at shopee ? hmm.gif
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post Sep 26 2023, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 25 2023, 03:46 PM)
did you try to search it at shopee ? hmm.gif
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got searched but price over 80+ and not sure really original or not
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post Sep 26 2023, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Sep 26 2023, 10:57 AM)
got searched but price over 80+ and not sure really original or not
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true , need to be careful when purchasing at shopee sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2023, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 26 2023, 12:23 PM)
true , need to be careful when purchasing at shopee  sweat.gif
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Bought basic one dulu lah below rm10. blush.gif
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post Sep 27 2023, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Sep 27 2023, 10:11 AM)
Bought basic one dulu lah below rm10.  blush.gif
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ya la , as long as can use it , better la icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 29 2023, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 27 2023, 10:16 AM)
ya la , as long as can use it , better la  icon_idea.gif
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Got it. Work perfectly like the original.
Just without Bluetooth. It's IR only and no physical back keyboard.

But hey. It's 7.90 and I'm ain't complaining at all.

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post Sep 29 2023, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Sep 27 2023, 10:16 AM)
ya la , as long as can use it , better la  icon_idea.gif
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Got it. Work perfectly like the original.
Just without Bluetooth. It's IR only and no physical back keyboard.

But hey. It's 7.90 and I'm ain't complaining at all.



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post Sep 29 2023, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(salimbest83 @ Sep 29 2023, 12:06 PM)
Got it. Work perfectly like the original.
Just without Bluetooth. It's IR only and no physical back keyboard.

But hey. It's 7.90 and I'm ain't complaining at all.
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that's good party.gif
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post Oct 20 2023, 06:21 PM

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Hi guys, how do your tune your tv setting for HDR?
It looks so obviously dim compared to dolby vision and sdr.


 

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