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 phone supported sound, 24-bit/192kHz vs 32-bit/384kHz

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Hattori
post Sep 10 2020, 09:35 PM

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High sampling rates does have some effect.

For hearing, it can be noticeable when used with EQ to bring out some of the frequency details.
I tried on lower sampling rates and the sound comes out muffled due to lack of resolution like attempting to enhance a pixelated censor image.

Other than hearing for ears, sound does have effect on other senses when it makes your skin prickle/crawl, hair raising sensations or stomach thump on frequencies below or above human hearing range.


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post Sep 10 2020, 09:53 PM

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get a portable dac/mp3 player
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post Sep 10 2020, 10:10 PM

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done the test with r1700bt, dont have my headphone with me.
only 2 song guess correct
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post Sep 10 2020, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Sep 10 2020, 09:35 PM)
High sampling rates does have some effect.

For hearing, it can be noticeable when used with EQ to bring out some of the frequency details.
I tried on lower sampling rates and the sound comes out muffled due to lack of resolution like attempting to enhance a pixelated censor image.

Other than hearing for ears, sound does have effect on other senses when it makes your skin prickle/crawl, hair raising sensations or stomach thump on frequencies below or above human hearing range.
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post Sep 10 2020, 10:38 PM

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Done the test using Koss KSC-75 ear clips connected to my 15 years old AthlonX64 PC's front panel without using any EQ settings.

Got 4 out of 6 correct, which is not by guessing.

I could hear the wideness echo of the soundstage and less muffled instruments on the uncompressed WAV files compared to the other 2 samples, except for the 2 songs I got wrong by actually guessing due to the loudness of the music that drowns out these mentioned effects.
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post Sep 11 2020, 03:18 AM

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Vinyl sound better
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post Sep 11 2020, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Sep 10 2020, 08:56 PM)
This solves my problem: Fiio BTR5
Don't have to worry if the phone doesn't have 3.5mm plug. This unit even supports balanced out with 2.5mm TRRS.

Unless you get Bluetooth earbuds, then that's another story altogether.
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How does this work can u explain
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post Sep 11 2020, 04:33 AM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Sep 11 2020, 03:53 AM)
How does this work can u explain
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BTR5 connects to your phone via Bluetooth. It has a 3.5mm connector so I can connect my earphones to it, which solves the problem of phones not having 3.5mm connector. If I like, I can even use the 2.5mm connector it has, which should offer even better sound quality.

Besides, BTR5 bypasses the internal sound card of the phone as the main sound processing happens at BTR5, and the sound card at BTR5 should be more technically capable than most phones' sound card.
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post Sep 11 2020, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Sep 11 2020, 04:33 AM)
BTR5 connects to your phone via Bluetooth. It has a 3.5mm connector so I can connect my earphones to it, which solves the problem of phones not having 3.5mm connector. If I like, I can even use the 2.5mm connector it has, which should offer even better sound quality.

Besides, BTR5 bypasses the internal sound card of the phone as the main sound processing happens at BTR5, and the sound card at BTR5 should be more technically capable than most phones' sound card.
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So it can play hq audio to good earphone eh.

Apart from music. Can i get surround sound if watch movie or play games. Will it have lag on games?
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post Sep 11 2020, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Sep 11 2020, 04:37 AM)
So it can play hq audio to good earphone eh.

Apart from music. Can i get surround sound if watch movie or play games. Will it have lag on games?
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I suppose it's considered HQ? Output 80mW for 3.5mm and 240mW for 2.5mm is considered powerful enough for most earphones I think.

I'm not sure on the surround sound part as it doesn't have build in sound enhancer. Perhaps you can use enhancer (i.e. surround sound effect) on your phone/PC and hear if it makes a difference.

Regarding lag, if it's not too far then I think the playback is quite seamless. I tried standing furthest like 1~2m away from phone. However, sometimes i do have occasional short lag (like once every 2~3 mins for less than 1 second), and I'm unsure if it's due to my phone or BTR5's bluetooth issue.
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Sep 11 2020, 07:50 AM)
I suppose it's considered HQ? Output 80mW for 3.5mm and 240mW for 2.5mm is considered powerful enough for most earphones I think.

I'm not sure on the surround sound part as it doesn't have build in sound enhancer. Perhaps you can use enhancer (i.e. surround sound effect) on your phone/PC and hear if it makes a difference.

Regarding lag, if it's not too far then I think the playback is quite seamless. I tried standing furthest like 1~2m away from phone. However, sometimes i do have occasional short lag (like once every 2~3 mins for less than 1 second), and I'm unsure if it's due to my phone or BTR5's bluetooth issue.
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For gaming lag its important not to be lag since need hear footsteps or click to shoot and sound sync with audio effect
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post Sep 11 2020, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Sep 11 2020, 07:54 AM)
For gaming lag its important not to be lag since need hear footsteps or click to shoot and sound sync with audio effect
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I understand. Therefore, I can't be too sure if it won't. User experience may differ. So far it's like 90% of the time it won't have any issue. But for serious gaming, like what you've mentioned on the need to pick up all kinds of sound in real time, then perhaps the best choice is still wired setup. Using wireless (bluetooth) will always leave a room for possible gap between the two devices (source and playback device).
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post Sep 11 2020, 08:03 AM

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Sampling rate on audio is just like resolution on display, the higher, the closer to the original.
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post Sep 11 2020, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Sep 11 2020, 07:54 AM)
For gaming lag its important not to be lag since need hear footsteps or click to shoot and sound sync with audio effect
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Don't think it suitable for gaming coz I check the spec it don't support AAC or Aptx. So there won't be low latency connection.

 

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