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TSblek
post Sep 10 2020, 08:46 PM, updated 6y ago

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most of my song collection are in 384KHz and i love the detail or the song playing on my laptop compare to lower KHz.
but things is most phone out there only support 24-bit/192kHz unless option for flagship model which is more expensive.

now the things is how will my song(384KHz) played in my phone that only support 192KHz?
anyone audiophile expert know or you all prefer dedicated audio player?

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post Sep 10 2020, 08:48 PM

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ur song will downscale to watever ur phone can support, if wan audio quality go dap and quality iem or headphone
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:49 PM

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make no mistake, any phone can process 384khz but the speaker cannot output 384khz only….

So get a good headset that can output 384khz
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:50 PM

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get LG V series
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:53 PM

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Isn't human hearing range only 20Hz to 20kHz?
You mean kbps?
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:56 PM

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This solves my problem: Fiio BTR5
Don't have to worry if the phone doesn't have 3.5mm plug. This unit even supports balanced out with 2.5mm TRRS.

Unless you get Bluetooth earbuds, then that's another story altogether.
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Sep 10 2020, 08:53 PM)
Isn't human hearing range only 20Hz to 20kHz?
You mean kbps?
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Then CD is pointless since they are 44.1kHz ?

https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/2...hing-at-44-1khz
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post Sep 10 2020, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Sep 10 2020, 08:48 PM)
ur song will downscale to watever ur phone can support, if wan audio quality go dap and quality iem or headphone
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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Sep 10 2020, 08:49 PM)
make no mistake, any phone can process 384khz but the speaker cannot output 384khz only….

So get a good headset that can output 384khz
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thanks, now i know that audio spec is for phone speaker actually.


QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Sep 10 2020, 08:53 PM)
Isn't human hearing range only 20Hz to 20kHz?
You mean kbps?
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Yes, should kbps actually
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Sep 10 2020, 08:56 PM)
This solves my problem: Fiio BTR5
Don't have to worry if the phone doesn't have 3.5mm plug. This unit even supports balanced out with 2.5mm TRRS.

Unless you get Bluetooth earbuds, then that's another story altogether.
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thanks, thats is like rm500+ for a portable amp
any other option like mp3 player?
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Sep 10 2020, 09:02 PM)
thanks, thats is like rm500+ for a portable amp
any other option like mp3 player?
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fiio m3 pro, fiio m6, hidizs ap80
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:03 PM

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does it really make a big difference between 128 and 384?
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Sep 10 2020, 09:03 PM)
does it really make a big difference between 128 and 384?
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it really huge difference between 128kbps compare to 320kbps especially some detail instrument background that cannot be heard from 128kbps
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:09 PM

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320kbps? mp3?
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QUOTE(blek @ Sep 10 2020, 09:02 PM)
thanks, thats is like rm500+ for a portable amp
any other option like mp3 player?
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I didn't suggest MP3 player because it's a standalone device. If you are comfortable with another device, perhaps there are some cheaper alternatives which I may not really surveyed. Nevertheless, you may want to test it out first to hear if you like the particular sound. I tried the Shanling Bluetooth receiver and didn't like the sound much. Fiio suits my preference in that price bracket, and it's a Dac-Amp combo with bluetooth capability so it fits my requirement.
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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Sep 10 2020, 09:03 PM)
fiio m3 pro, fiio m6, hidizs ap80
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thanks, really good stuff with additional function like recording and calculator thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Sep 10 2020, 09:09 PM)
320kbps? mp3?
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yes. i know other format better than .mp3
prefer mp3 format as it widely compatible.
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:19 PM

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Just buy more expensive phone then. No need to carry extra device.
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Sep 10 2020, 08:56 PM)
Then CD is pointless since they are 44.1kHz ?

https://sound.stackexchange.com/questions/2...hing-at-44-1khz
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AFAIK, 44.1kHz is already x2. Meaning if you divide by 2 = 22.05kHz which is slightly beyond the human hearing range. Anything above cannot be heard unless you are a dog or something.

There is no such thing as 384kHz music laugh.gif

QUOTE(blek @ Sep 10 2020, 08:58 PM)
Yes, should kbps actually
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I use PowerAmp app on my phone. It plays 1000+ kbps music.

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I doubt buying all those fancy gadgets will make it sound any better.
Why not try this blind test before buying?
https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015...r-audio-quality
If you cannot tell the difference, then just skip it.

QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ Sep 10 2020, 09:03 PM)
does it really make a big difference between 128 and 384?
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128kbps and 320kbps can tell if you use a good headphone.
If you use crap, you get crap anyway.

Anything beyond 320kbps is likely just placebo unless you have really good ears or a musician.
I have a music that's 24 bit, 48kHZ 1747 kbps flac. There's probably a very very small difference but I doubt the difference is worth the larger music file.

Video of a blind test if you're interested.



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post Sep 10 2020, 09:24 PM

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then why not use lossless compression like flac?
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:29 PM

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most song collection is on 384khz?
i guess ts only listening to mastered classic music as most hires source out there is 24bit 48khz/96/192khz.

also those hi-res certification is kinda bullshit.

my meizu phone audio quality is miles ahead better than my poco f2 which had hi-res certification, reality is you still need decent amp to produced good audio, doesnt matter how clean your dac shown in the computer reading.
also i will take sony s-master with 80db dynamic range anyday vs most phone with >96db dynamic range reading.

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