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Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC and Poco X3 Pro, Midrange Killers 2.0

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post Sep 14 2020, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Sep 13 2020, 09:17 PM)
Build quality, display quality, functionality, SPen, ultrasonic fp scanner, hole punch technology, weight-control, 9 in 1 pixel binning camera sensor, 3 years OS upgrades, Samsung DeX, Samsung Pay, unique TWS earbuds.....
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build - Does samsung has the best built for smartphones? Back then? Now? In the early smartphone era, Nokia is the undisputed built quality king, followed by HTC with their metal/polycarbonate unibody; there after, whole smartphone industry eventually regressed to learn/imitate Apple. We see the evolution from removable battery plastic phone to metal built and ultimately to the glass (or plastic) sandwich phones we see in the market nowadays. I will give Xiaomi a special credit here for trying with novelties like ceramic body or slider phone in this glass-sandwich era, sadly they didn't maintain the efforts afterwards.

display quality - agreed. they're the pioneer and main player in making AMOLED display, gotta give them credit for that

functionality - almost every brands have their own unique functionality advantages, it depends on what exactly you're looking for, certainly can't say samsung win it all here

spen - agreed. no other manufacturers tried to compete in this league, leaving samsung the undisputed (sole) winner here

ultrasonic fp scanner - it's qualcomn's tech and nothing to shout about; still less reliable than conventional capacitive reader and at times still performing worse than optical one found on most other phones

punch hole technology - IIRC, SHARP is the one that pioneered this (nonsense) notch stuff; and I seriously hated it because of that (and apple) we need to settle for notch/punchhole on phones until a new solution to implement selfie cam under display came out (recently xiaomi claimed their tech is almost there and ready for the market soon, let's wait and see if it's true)

weight control - ???

9 in 1 pixel binning - yeah, they're the pioneer of this tech with their 108MP sensors, but sony still the undisputed king of mobile photography

3 years OS upgrades - +1 for them for making it clear upfront they will push for 3 years of OS upgrades; though competitor brands also typically having 2 years of OS upgrades and some additional security updates afterwards; and let's not forget about the platinum standard of the industry - APPLE; alternatively Android One phones easily came with 3 years of updates too IINM.

DEX - agreed, IIRC they're the first one whom pushed for this and kudos to them to continue improvising on it every year after

Samsung Pay - they done it after Apple launched their Apple Pay...

TWS earbuds - airpods, anyone?

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post Sep 14 2020, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 14 2020, 01:06 PM)
this is in their sales schedule as i mentioned earlier. just that they bring fwd the date from 21st to 17th. and this is official malaysia set that is imported by Xiaomi MY.. means with sirim, 3 pin plug everything.
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I'm betting even Malaysia set also won't have 3 pins plug.

Xiaomi is just so lazy to purposely add-on additional 3 pins SKU for their 33W charger.
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post Sep 14 2020, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(rd33 @ Sep 14 2020, 07:52 PM)
Why wana cancel ur order? U dont want poco x3 already?
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He purchased his out of FOMO, manatau kena game by Xiaomi, denied his order cancellation even though not yet shipped out. laugh.gif
QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 9 2020, 02:56 AM)
it will be available, but this 21st and according to Xioami MY insider, the promotion (flash sale) will be the same like tonight.

i'm not really active in marketplace, and just now only I installed the shopee app on my phone haha. BTW i think it's too much a hassle to repurchase. so for tonight i just let it be and see tomorrow if i still keen on the purchase. oh ya. now the status is in processed, normally until which stage can i still cancel the order?
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post Sep 15 2020, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(spikey2506 @ Sep 15 2020, 12:09 AM)
It's back to early bird pricing again now on Shopee. Damn I guess they really didn't hit their initial target sale units
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More like they explicitly acknowledging people won’t be paying for the full RRP cause the phone is marketed with the early bird prices.

People are unwilling to pay for the full RRP anymore after been teased with the early bird pricing.
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post Sep 15 2020, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(aku_dia @ Sep 15 2020, 08:33 PM)
after playing around... yeah lagging... coming from k20 pro.... sound so nice then k20 pro, netflix can get FHD but no HDR... ok la...
waiting for custom rom master to cook nice rom...
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K20 Pro was a flagship device, just like Poco F2 Pro.

This one is on a "midrange" midrange chipset.
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post Sep 16 2020, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(fjoru103 @ Sep 16 2020, 12:48 PM)
My brother's set sampai yesterday, so far he is happy, and he started to see ads haha , any nice video can intro to disable that?

My set still in transit, guess next week maybe
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1. Disable “recommendations” in each of those apps.

2. Don’t use stock apps

I never saw any single ads anymore on my Poco F2
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post Sep 17 2020, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(jern25 @ Sep 17 2020, 12:13 PM)
user posted image

Lazada flash sale is ongoing now
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Lefuq, 3k+ units sold?
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post Sep 17 2020, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(9926 @ Sep 17 2020, 12:45 PM)
I think price difference mainly cause by the 865 chipset in F2 pro? for me RM1500 is still acceptable for F2 pro, but of course the X3 price tag below 1K is definitely a good bargain
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chipset, AMOLED and better cameras.

Those 3 are parts that China didn't made themselves, that's why those parts always cost a premium.

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post Sep 17 2020, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(XXXOOOXXXOOO @ Sep 17 2020, 12:55 PM)
i think got china amoled already la bro ...
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Yeah, the Huaxin vs Samsung AMOLED part.

But I take it they're still at their infancy, and the price is still not competitive enough to obsolete LCD.
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post Sep 18 2020, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(raymond82 @ Sep 18 2020, 05:28 PM)
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i still in dilemma whether to make payment:sweat:
my current phone is huawei mate 10, so i do not know is upgrade or downgrade

planned to go directd test the display set, unfortunaly the promoter told test unit will availabe next monday/tuesday
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Consider an upgrade/sidegrade already. Mate10 vanilla is due for upgrades for a long time already.
https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone...5&idPhone2=8877

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post Sep 21 2020, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(sapphirerebound @ Sep 21 2020, 02:53 PM)
Should I get this as secondary phone to Mi 9T?
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Sounds like a side grade.

I will say it’s kind of redundant to have 2 similar specs mid range phone.
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post Sep 23 2020, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(makky @ Sep 22 2020, 04:38 PM)
U mean they told customer that custom are in fault but it's actually they fault slow to arrange shipment? But the agent told me too that new shipment all go to BKI Or KK ABX then ship down Sarawak.
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Relax, my shipment to Sarawak (from WM or China) averagely took extra 1 week nowadays. I think the courier have problems to arrange for the cargo into Sarawak.
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post Sep 23 2020, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 22 2020, 07:26 PM)
Xiaomi strategy is very weird. by that name we surely assumed the only the difference between poco x3 nfc and poco x3 is the lack of NFC.

suddenly extra ram variant and bigger battery?
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Not exactly unprecedented.

India’s MiA3 has 6GB RAM variant while all other countries capped at 4GB.

Basically they acknowledged India’s market is different and competitive, deswai they always try to tweak additionally for India’s market.

I think this time round, they try to tweak it to directly compete with Samseng’s M51, which made a big hoohah (but still costing the Samseng Tax as always).

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post Sep 25 2020, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 25 2020, 07:44 AM)
True. The 9S is still a good phone, the build is more premium than most midrange phones and the SD720G processor is still good for a couple of years at least. I'm sure your phone won't be obsolete so soon although it feels like it smile.gif
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This, I will classify SD720 to be same gen as those SD73X, they probably gonna obsolete in terms of performance about the same time.
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post Sep 26 2020, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(yapec @ Sep 26 2020, 11:04 AM)
Haven't receive my x3 yet since 9 sept order , what the bark abx .......
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Don’t say phone, even my generic phone accessories like bag/phone stand from ugreen also yet delivered now, same also bought on 9th9

The international/cross state cargo is simply working real slow nowadays.
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post Sep 30 2020, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(~ Z ~ @ Sep 30 2020, 01:19 AM)
is this EU rom?

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That’s a EEA (european economic area) ROM, but not xiaomi.eu ROM.

Basically, Xiaomi’s phones nowadays came with different regional variants of ROM depending on their markets, like Russia, India, Europe and etc.

Xiaomi.eu is a 3rd party tweak on official xiaomi ROM for China, something not under the partake of Xiaomi themselves.
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post Oct 1 2020, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(sakaic @ Oct 1 2020, 10:05 PM)
So I bought the X3 to replace my old Nokia 8. Been using for about a week.

What I have done so far is removed as much of the apps that came with the phone as I can. The problem with the WiFi not connecting was a pain in the ass.

Things I like are the mega battery, cooler running compared to my previous phone, zippy print reader and louder and better speakers.

Things I dislike and want to change and maybe get some advice from you guys

1) shitty camera app. Cannot disable beautify and AI rubbish from running. Always on somehow or rather

2) ads everywhere. Still trying to figure out how to turn it off

3) not an android one phone. Too much stuff that I cannot remove or tweak without having to install extra stuff.

4) Bluetooth not playing ball with my miband 4. Have to manually get it to connect instead of periodically connecting and syncing with it

Hoping to get the camera app replaced asap. Suggestions anyone?
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I don’t own a X3 but the older F2Pro, but I guess the mileage is bout the same since both are under Poco branding.
1. If you mean the front facing camera, the setting without filter is the “clear”.

2. Just off “recommendation” in each App’s settings.

3. Tweak the settings in Poco launcher, mine actually behave closely similar (the navigation) to my AndroidOne MiA3 after tweaking all the settings.
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post Oct 4 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 4 2020, 07:34 PM)
So why people so hype with s-amoled ?
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AMOLED is inherently better at contrast and sunlight legibility.

Another notable perks is lower power consumption when displaying majorly dark background. Each pixels can effectively be powered off when displaying totally black background, unlike LCD tech which still require some backlight even displaying black background. Always on display is a tech mainly found on phone with OLED display because of this issue.

Also, it generally have lower minimum brightness, which is helpful when using your phone in pitch black room (but note that i said generally, it subjected to model by model basis).

The issue with AMOLED is it can subject to burn in or degradation of colour accuracy as it aged. Therefore the industry is investing in micro-LED next, a non-organic alternative to it which should mitigate the aging issue of OLED.

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post Oct 8 2020, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(letmepush @ Oct 7 2020, 10:58 PM)
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nhua-data-leak/
just read this, now I am suspect china phone security issue
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How many VVIPs out there using caina phones like us peasants here...
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post Oct 14 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(ToGMochi @ Oct 14 2020, 02:32 PM)
Hi, I'm new here. Does the Poco X3 NFC:

1. Have microSD slot?
2. Comes with case and screen protector?
3. Can remove or turn off ads?

Thinking of buying my mom a new phone. Can't find other phone which is worth other than this.

Please assist me smile.gif
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But for old people (less tech savvy), better setup the phone for them and install alternative apps for them before passing to them.

Else they may just use the stock apps as it is.

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