Hi,

I've already decided to go the SARMs route after doing my own research. Will probably go with RAD140.

Wanted to check the legitimacy of Sven Pharma and Alpha Laboratories and SARMSCombo. Has anyone used these brands? Any reviews of them?

Feel free to recommend me any other legitimate sellers around. Cheers

Stats:
Body Age/Weight/Height: 22 y.o. 66kg 169cm
Bench Press: 60kg plates x 5 reps (excluding bar)
Squats: 60kg plates x 10 reps(no belt support)

The photos of me are all 100% natty.

UPDATE 1 (4/1/2021):
Product: Decided to go with SarmsCombo RAD140 from Shopee. Testolone, 50 tabs of 15mg in a tiny bottle.

Dosage: I decided to split the dosage with my girl for safety reasons and cost effectiveness.

Both me and her are taking 15mg tabs EOD (every other day). Essentially this can be thought of as taking 7.5mg every day.

My reasoning:
1. 7.5mg of RAD140 should be equivalent or better than 15-20mg of Ostarine in terms of muscle gains.
2. 7.5mg obviously would be less suppressive than 15mg of RAD140.
3. Her taking 7.5mg is suitable for her as girls are way more sensitive to androgenic side effects.
4. And since she's more sensitive it should be very easy and quick to tell whether in fact the Sarms are bunk (ie: sugar pills) or in fact laced with prohormones (ie: Dbol).
5. RAD140 has a 60 hour half life so it doesn't clear the system (so 15mg EOD is fine). Yes I know 15mg ED is a lot better than 15mg EOD.

Conclusion: If it works for both of us expectedly then good. If it works for her, but not for me, then the sarms are real. If it doesn't work for her, the sarms is bunk. If it works too well and gives her massive sides, then the sarms we bought could be bunk. Time will tell.

Results: (last updated 10/01/2021)
Week 1: No strength gains. No muscle gains. No suppression. No side effects on both of us.
Week 2: Minor strength gains (could be placebo). No muscle gains (can't tell). No suppression. No side effects on both of us (minor headaches, nothing else).
Week 3: Minor strength gains. Natural progression. No side effects or suppression. Suspecting that the Sarms are fake.
Week 4: Minor strength gains. Natural progression. No side effects or suppression. Suspecting that the Sarms are fake.
Week 5: Fake sarms
Week 6: Fake sarms
Week 7: Fake sarms
Week 8: Fake sarms

Note: Be aware that the results are based on the particular dosage, brand, etc that I got and am currently doing. My results won't be indicative of yours as your mileage may vary simply due to dosage or other brands. Consider this a review. Also I am not a noob when it comes to weight training. I got most of my gains at 17 and have been on and off since (student life). So don't expect to look like me.

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Mar 5 2021, 11:27 PM


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Cheap..most probably laced with prohormones. Avoid it

Don't think sarms are supposed to be that expensive anyways? Considering how much cheaper they are in alibaba

yeah, you can find bulk powder from China factory that's really cheap. I bet those sold are mostly repackaged and bottled up from China.

Yup that's why I don't mind paying 100-200rm if they really used the china ones and repackaged for my convenience considering it's 8-12 weeks cycle. Cheaper than whey protein 🤣

Well unless you actually send it to an independent test lab to actually verify, how would you know for sure? you might be getting a prohormone for all you know. At the end of the day its leap of faith. I've read plenty of shit on reddit where people taking the same compound from the same sauce, not everyone will have the same reaction. And for your first cycle you're immediately starting with the stronger sarm instead of milder (i.e. Ostarine).

so either

take cheap stuff and potentially f*ck up yourself
take expensive stuff and still potentially f*cking up yourself too.

choice is yours lol.


My advice, try not to cheap-out on shit that you're gonna risk your health for. Try compare the price with overseas brands (Science-Bio or something that's popular in America) and make your decision.

I assume you won't even bother doing bloods and preparing some Nolva/clomids for PCT

I added photos and 2 of my compound lifts to my topic. 100% natty obviously. No gym for entire covid season until gyms re-opened and came back and got my strength back up to where it previously was in about a month. 😋

My diet is subpar 1800-2000 calories. Save money on food too🤣. 60-80g protein consistently though.

Anyways I'd rather not waste my time with ostarine as I want to recomp with something potent without going the steroids route (My prostate is important to me 🤣). Will probably stick to 1800-2000 calories. RAD140 is perfect for my goals and so is LGD. Preferably 8 weeks to avoid too long suppression since no test base.

Don't wanna take cheap stuff just that, that's what is in shopee lol. Ostarine, test, dbol are cheaper 🤣. Also lowkey hoping to find a reliable source. Also how do I order the overseas ones to malaysia like the science-bio you mentioned?

Definitely will do PCT 100%, and if I get sides I'll half my dosages. As for bloodwork, I really want to do it but I'm worried it'll be expensive in private.

Dude. How long have you been training? At your current stats i don't think you should be messing around with PEDs, especially something that will affect your hormone levels. You're still young at 22 and your growth plates are not even properly closed/settled yet. Your natural hormones are still at it's peak and you should make full use of it instead of relying on SARMs.

You can go to all of the forums and the veterans will probably say the same things that I'm gonna say below

1) Why are you even skimping on food? seriously? PEDs will only get you so far but if you don't fuel your body properly, you'll get no where.
2) Im suggesting a milder compound simply to see how the body will react. RAD and LGD from what I read is strong as hell. You'll definitely tank your T levels pretty damn fast, especially with your current nutrition and training which is at the moment pretty subpar (sorry, honest opinion)
3) Focus on your nutrition first. Actual foods and supplement second. Don't skimp money on that.
4) I'd focus on getting up to certain strength level for the big lifts (bench press, deadlift, squat and OHP). Maybe 4chan's 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps? Then maybe you can focus on hypertrophy.
5) If you don't get your nutrition and training right, you'll most likely to lose all of the gains you made in those 8 planned weeks (yes even tho on PCT) and be back at square one, with potentially lowered test levels etc.

For the Science Bio, maybe you can google for their website. Remember tho it's still leap of faith. Our resident juice expert, Armesh will probably say just skip the SARMs and go straight for the juice. lol

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 8 2020, 01:35 PM

My growth plates are closed 100% since I haven't grown single cm since 16. Consistently been training about 2 years back when I was 17. Since then uni started, so on-off for years. Ah when I said skimping I meant I'm on 400-500 calorie deficit. And I use the "if it fits my macros" approach with food hence why I said it's subpar. Student life 🤷🏻‍♂️. Just gain-taining slowly. My training is decent though tbh just upper-lower split. 20 sets per muscle/week. My progress is alright, just that my goals are high. And nah I'd prefer to stay away from steroids as much as I can simply cuz of the higher side effect profile. sciencebio is a little too expensive I feel. The powder is good but I'm not sure how to suspend. Thinking of the option below. More expensive than the shopee ones but should be legit as it's mmc?

https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/SARMS-Matri...s-R-140-RAD-140



This post has been edited by Axelredan: Sep 9 2020, 12:56 AM

All the best man. If you decided to hop on it, theres this saying the real battle starts after the cycle ends to keep as much of the gains you got. Maybe you can share your progress since at my age, im pretty damn interested on trying it as well. But maybe after 2-3 more years.

On the stuff if youre planning to get on shopee, i cant advice much since from the reddit im reading, most are from us, uk eur and aussies. The only potential uk brand being sold here is bioscience if im not mistaken.

Edit : i didnt even realize mmc is now selling sarms openly. I know they were selling prohormones last time but it quickly disappeared from the listing. You can give it a shot and update us on how it goes

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 9 2020, 01:08 AM

Sure thanks for the advices though. One thing I wanted to ask is: do you know how much bloodwork costs here?

my usual blood and urine test cost around 150-200 iirc. But it doesn't include hormone/testosterone profile.

However in your case since you'll need to include the hormone profile it's gonna be more i guess. Make sure that the hormone profile includes the LH, FSH, DHT, Free test and your total test level.

Any clinic will do this, and they'll send it to some lab. Maybe you can go to a specialist hospital or even google for a specialize hormone clinic.

Wow not cheap

Well thats the price you'll have to pay to use PEDs thatll affect your hormones.

And its recommended for you to do it before and after cycle to gauge how well your body tolerated the compound and how high dose of nolva/clomid you'll need for PCT. Some will be lucky to get away without having to do PCT tho

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 9 2020, 02:22 PM

I wouldn't try Bioscience tho. Their website is made up of stock images lol.

Off topic, are we allowed to discuss PEDs?

I think he meant science.bio not bioscience. Yeah sure no problem. Discussion is good

funny no such entity known as "Luis Scheering Pharmaceuticals GmbH" exists, either in Wedding-Berlin or Switzerland or the entirety of google for that matter. And their facebook just got scrubbed.

Theres AG Schering, Bayer-Schering.


One cant be too careful in stuff like these. At best, you get underdosed. At worst, you get Mast/T.prop in your expensive synth's.

Yup agreed. And yeah that's odd. I guess no cheap 90rm Sven Pharma for me lol. What about alpha laboratories? Found anything about that? I'm thinking of getting the Matrixlabs RAD140 from MMC though (link above in my other replies). Science.bio is too expensive and shipping might take 2-3 weeks+. The cost/safety ratio is important to me since I'm just a student so I wouldn't put my budget above 250rm for an 8 weeks cycle either.

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Sep 10 2020, 07:43 PM

I've ordered my Rad140 from Chemyo, a really reliable source from US with many good reviews on sarmssourcetalk reddit.

Get Chemyo. Based on what i read on sarmssourcetalk its really potent compared to other sarms source. So start with 5mg for 5 days a week. 1 bottle can last you a 10 week cycle. And always prepare nolva for your PCT.

https://pictr.com/images/2020/09/19/7Gh1uJ.md.png

Can you provide a link to buy it? And how long would they take to ship to malaysia?

Bro just literally google it, you can also search online for promo codes.

IDK man. You're 22 years old and your body able to produce test naturally. Now you're trying to take PEDs to slow down or probably shut off your own test. So what if you get strength & mass faster? When you come off then muscle and strength loss, poor sleep, depression, fatigue, etc. What next? PCT then take more and more in every cycle?

That's what I've been telling him. hes starting straight with one of the strongest sarms instead of easing into it with weaker compound i.e. Ostarine or even mk677. Just hope that he sorts out his diet and training properly since he will most likely lose all of the gains when he comes off based frm what he's doing now tbh.

Decided to go with ostarine since it's my first cycle. I would go with mk677 but I decided it's not for me simply because it increases hunger a lot (along with water retention).

did ur sarms from chemyo arrive? I heard it can get rampas or stuck coz of kkm

I decided to go with local

I feel sad when young impressionable kids feel compelled to do PEDs. Sarms is worse than steroids.

OK boomer

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Oct 20 2020, 03:10 PM

Show us what you look like mr natty

Fixed.

Has it arrived and did it work for you?

Can you share the local source please? Did it work for you?

I went with RAD140. Up to you if you wanna trust or not. Link below


https://shopee.com.my/product/126978242/6033751272

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Jan 4 2021, 08:30 AM

60-hrs half life yes but doesn't means your whole consumption stays there for 60-hrs. It doesn't work like a battery dude where u get full benefit still its depleted then u re-charge.

Its a bad idea to go roller coaster especially 15mg every other day. Does that means i can take 50mg every 2.5x day? hell no..

I would suggest u take everyday but stay at lower dosage to see if there's any side effect. Up the dosage 1-week later.

How do you know if it works for her? Does she workout as hard? Sometimes u can get a better workout 'feel' by just consuming creatine / pre-workout.

Its not magic pill where u get instant +30% strength / +10lbs lean muscle ..

Anyway, just my opinion. Thanks for ur sharing though. All the best dude.

Thanks man!

Hope your cycle goes well and please share with us your results/journey

Yup I know what you mean bro. The main thing is it's a half-life and it doesn't deplete out of your system after 60 hours, but simply halves in dosage and becomes less effective. And not linear but exponential decay. For example I know Deca (Nandrolone decanoate) has a half-life of 6-15 days but it is very well known that it stays within the system for months on end.

But yeah i get it bro it's definitely better to take a lower dosage like 7.5mg ED than 15mg EOD. More stable blood serum concentrations. The thing is with my tablets I don't really have a choice. I can't split my 15mg tab cuz it's a round tiny tablet (around the size of a headphone jack. Maybe a tiny bit larger.)

I would know it works for her because she is more anabolically and androgenically sensitive. So even if I get miniscule 1-2lbs gains, She should definitely be stronger with noticeable results after cycle. And yes she works out just as hard. Just more legs and glutes focused but includes bench press, isolation exercises (including lat pulldown, tricep, bicep, etc). 3 sets/muscle for upper body, 4 sets/muscle for lower body. No cardio cuz she doesn't need it. 44kg.

I know its not a magic pill. I doubt any sarm can add 10lbs of lean muscle. Maybe dbol but thats water weight too. Lets see by the end of the cycle.

Anyways I'll keep updating the topic from time to time

I don't think I will upload much photos, but I will try to add photos at the very end of the cycle in 7 weeks time. But yes I will write up on the results .

Will get ED.

If they were real, maybe.

Turns out SARMsCombo RAD140 is fake. (Bought it from Shopee preferred seller NutritionWarehouse. Not their responsibility though)

This post has been edited by Axelredan: Mar 5 2021, 11:28 PM

anyone interested in getting SARMS from Chemyo? ( reputable US SARM's supplier ) If yes, PM me.

Hi guys, just wanted to share my experience with sarms. Ordered some ostarine and rad 140 from science bio with no issues.

If you are new to SARMs I would also advise you to look up post cycle therapy before going on a cycle.

SARMS are just stupid.
Minimal gains with same side effects as real steroids.
Same shutdown, and they greatly screw up your HDL LDL cholestrol just like oral steroids.
Experimental drugs.

Just run an Anavar/Oxandrolone
FDA approved for human use
Been around for 50+ years
All side effects well known
Minimal to no side effects (except cholestrol screw and partial HTPA suppression)
Solid lean gains since its the real deal anabolic steroid.

Anabolic steroids are legal for personal use in Malaysia.
You really don't need dabble into this SARMS experiment crap.

They are only popular cause in America AAS is illegal.
So they try to use SARMS as legal loophole.

Seriously sick of Malaysians promoting SARMS are side effect free steroid alternative when no one goes to clinic and do cholestrol blood test or read studies showing how it affects cholestrol and causes partial HTPA suppression just like real oral AAS.
All that just for minimal gains.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Oct 13 2021, 05:36 PM

I don't think that taking sarms is reasonable. Simple testosterone is the best option

Yes simple testosterone only is safest. Safe for cholestrol, kidney, liver, long term health AND cheapest!
You can check out Vigorous Steve youtube channel.

BUT!
-some people get horrible estrogen side effects and gyno even at low doses. Estrogen sensitive people.
-Need E2 management.
-can get horrible acne, almost definitely can cause some acne.
-If you're prone to MPB, your hair bye bye lol.
-Need study safe injection techniques.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Oct 21 2021, 01:09 AM

More reasons Oxandrolone(Anavar) is better+safer than SARMs