Well unless you actually send it to an independent test lab to actually verify, how would you know for sure? you might be getting a prohormone for all you know. At the end of the day its leap of faith. I've read plenty of shit on reddit where people taking the same compound from the same sauce, not everyone will have the same reaction. And for your first cycle you're immediately starting with the stronger sarm instead of milder (i.e. Ostarine).

so either

take cheap stuff and potentially f*ck up yourself
take expensive stuff and still potentially f*cking up yourself too.

choice is yours lol.


My advice, try not to cheap-out on shit that you're gonna risk your health for. Try compare the price with overseas brands (Science-Bio or something that's popular in America) and make your decision.

I assume you won't even bother doing bloods and preparing some Nolva/clomids for PCT

Dude. How long have you been training? At your current stats i don't think you should be messing around with PEDs, especially something that will affect your hormone levels. You're still young at 22 and your growth plates are not even properly closed/settled yet. Your natural hormones are still at it's peak and you should make full use of it instead of relying on SARMs.

You can go to all of the forums and the veterans will probably say the same things that I'm gonna say below

1) Why are you even skimping on food? seriously? PEDs will only get you so far but if you don't fuel your body properly, you'll get no where.
2) Im suggesting a milder compound simply to see how the body will react. RAD and LGD from what I read is strong as hell. You'll definitely tank your T levels pretty damn fast, especially with your current nutrition and training which is at the moment pretty subpar (sorry, honest opinion)
3) Focus on your nutrition first. Actual foods and supplement second. Don't skimp money on that.
4) I'd focus on getting up to certain strength level for the big lifts (bench press, deadlift, squat and OHP). Maybe 4chan's 1/2/3/4 for 5 reps? Then maybe you can focus on hypertrophy.
5) If you don't get your nutrition and training right, you'll most likely to lose all of the gains you made in those 8 planned weeks (yes even tho on PCT) and be back at square one, with potentially lowered test levels etc.

For the Science Bio, maybe you can google for their website. Remember tho it's still leap of faith. Our resident juice expert, Armesh will probably say just skip the SARMs and go straight for the juice. lol

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 8 2020, 01:35 PM

All the best man. If you decided to hop on it, theres this saying the real battle starts after the cycle ends to keep as much of the gains you got. Maybe you can share your progress since at my age, im pretty damn interested on trying it as well. But maybe after 2-3 more years.

On the stuff if youre planning to get on shopee, i cant advice much since from the reddit im reading, most are from us, uk eur and aussies. The only potential uk brand being sold here is bioscience if im not mistaken.

Edit : i didnt even realize mmc is now selling sarms openly. I know they were selling prohormones last time but it quickly disappeared from the listing. You can give it a shot and update us on how it goes

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 9 2020, 01:08 AM

my usual blood and urine test cost around 150-200 iirc. But it doesn't include hormone/testosterone profile.

However in your case since you'll need to include the hormone profile it's gonna be more i guess. Make sure that the hormone profile includes the LH, FSH, DHT, Free test and your total test level.

Any clinic will do this, and they'll send it to some lab. Maybe you can go to a specialist hospital or even google for a specialize hormone clinic.

Well thats the price you'll have to pay to use PEDs thatll affect your hormones.

And its recommended for you to do it before and after cycle to gauge how well your body tolerated the compound and how high dose of nolva/clomid you'll need for PCT. Some will be lucky to get away without having to do PCT tho

This post has been edited by axtray: Sep 9 2020, 02:22 PM

That's what I've been telling him. hes starting straight with one of the strongest sarms instead of easing into it with weaker compound i.e. Ostarine or even mk677. Just hope that he sorts out his diet and training properly since he will most likely lose all of the gains when he comes off based frm what he's doing now tbh.