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TScy97
post Aug 23 2020, 08:37 AM, updated 6y ago

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The engine oil checks regularly is within the high range . But service centre detect some minor oil leak. Necessary to repair or it is ok as long as the oil level kept within the range more than minimum for each service circle ? Any sifu please advise.
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post Aug 23 2020, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 08:37 AM)
The engine oil checks regularly is within the high range . But service centre detect some minor oil leak. Necessary to repair or it is ok as long as the oil level kept within the range more than minimum for each service circle ? Any sifu please advise.
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Location of the leakage?
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post Aug 23 2020, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 08:37 AM)
The engine oil checks regularly is within the high range . But service centre detect some minor oil leak. Necessary to repair or it is ok as long as the oil level kept within the range more than minimum for each service circle ? Any sifu please advise.
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The bold is the ultimate .
Interpreting your SC doesn't insists on immediate 'repair' , you are fine to keep to the bold above .
Having said this, what SC reckons as source of leak ? .... and car age/mileage ?

Note:I would be wary if rear crankshaft oil seal leaks , which is quite unlikely generally .

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 23 2020, 09:26 AM
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post Aug 23 2020, 11:06 AM

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leakages are abnormal especially if found within the engine bay unless it is engineered to leak (like the water drips from the AC - but those are termed as "drainage").

it is true that your car will run fine as long as the engine oil is kept at its optimal level but leakages mean something is wrong somewhere - like having a fever (an indication of infection) and if not tended to, may lead to much more serious problem.

if indeed there is a cracked valve or a seal that has gone bad, leaving it unattended for a long time may be dangerous (more so if and when you are on a long-distance drive).

get the defective part repaired/replaced as soon as possible.
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post Aug 23 2020, 11:13 AM

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My 3008 leaked for years now. Every 10000km need to top up 1L. No biggie because the car still runs fine just need to check and top up. Luckily the car will pop up some warning.
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post Aug 23 2020, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 08:37 AM)
The engine oil checks regularly is within the high range . But service centre detect some minor oil leak. Necessary to repair or it is ok as long as the oil level kept within the range more than minimum for each service circle ? Any sifu please advise.
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Where is the leak? If non dripping its fine.
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post Aug 23 2020, 01:05 PM

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10 years car. Hsc says. Check oil leaking found
Valve cover leak
VTEC solenoid leak
Plug head cover leak
Flywheel oil seal
Estimated cost to replace rm3k.
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post Aug 23 2020, 01:16 PM

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Try and get a quotation from other workshop. Most likely will cost you much lesser than 3k
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post Aug 23 2020, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 01:05 PM)
10 years car. Hsc says. Check oil leaking found


Based on computer/OBD-II ?
If yes, IME all four potential areas of leaks do NOT simultaneously happen at the same time .
It has to be one out of the 4 areas .
Since your SC is incompetent to identify which particular one among the four , I suggest you ignore the SC recommendation (for its incompetence) and visit any kopitiam or bawah pokok workshop who is reasonably expected to be able to actually identify which particular one area that leaks .

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Valve cover leak

Any reasonable outside mechanic can confirm this by looking at the edges of the valve cover externally . This repair is in a hundred rm plus and minus including valve cover gasket parts cost .

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VTEC solenoid leak

This solenoid is covered by timing cover . Your mechanic may be able to identify it , with or without removing timing cover .
The 'oil leak' warning generated by computer/OBD-II may mean solenoid leak by detecting drop in oil pressure , more so if you felt engine is not performing optimally in timing .
In order to rectify this , of course timing cover has got to be removed . RM ??? Probably 100 labour excluding parts .

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Plug head cover leak

Both leaks at either spark plug area or cylinder head leak (unlikely in your case) too can be identified externally .
Spark plug area leaks job is like rm 10 or so for labour excluding spark plug parts cost .

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Flywheel oil seal

This can likely be identified after prolonged parking on clean ground below engine .
This job is most elaborate among the four , even then its labour cost is probably in low hundreds .

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Estimated cost to replace rm3k.
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It is dumb for SC to suggest charging labour and/or parts for all four potential areas of 'leaks' in your context .

Edit: There is a reason I avoid any OEM SC like a plague , even during warranty period . Your SC here is a case in point .

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 23 2020, 02:08 PM
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post Aug 23 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 01:05 PM)
10 years car. Hsc says. Check oil leaking found
Valve cover leak
VTEC solenoid leak
Plug head cover leak
Flywheel oil seal
Estimated cost to replace rm3k.
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You goto Honda SC they will always take a parang.
And these guys only know how to potong guys like you.

So like zeng said,
"visit any kopitiam or bawah pokok workshop who is reasonably expected to be able to actually identify which particular one area that leaks "

You'll pay 3/4 of what SC quotes.
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post Aug 23 2020, 02:51 PM

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Yes I am really disappointed with MH prestige hsc in Sri Damansara. Previously quote me rm 22k to repair braking system and I got it fixed outside specialist at rm4.5k. Weekend charge me major service cost doing minor service. I regret all these years had my car service there and they give me an impression being loyal customer has zero benefit. They still treat you like a stranger each time you visit them. Wtf.
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post Aug 23 2020, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 02:51 PM)
Yes I am really disappointed with MH prestige hsc in Sri Damansara. Previously quote me rm 22k to repair braking system and I got it fixed outside specialist at rm4.5k. Weekend charge me major service cost doing minor service. I regret all these years had my car service there and they give me an impression being loyal customer has zero benefit. They still treat you like a stranger each time you visit them. Wtf.
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22k you can buy another 10 year old car! Lol
What's wrong with the brakes btw??
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post Aug 23 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 01:05 PM)
10 years car. Hsc says. Check oil leaking found
Valve cover leak
VTEC solenoid leak
Plug head cover leak
Flywheel oil seal
Estimated cost to replace rm3k.
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You better visit Vmag motorsport. They are expert in repairing Honda and eplacing all these seals are a norm to them. The workshop is also nearby Bandar Sri Damansara.

Definitely will be much cheaper than 3k.

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post Aug 23 2020, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Aug 23 2020, 03:08 PM)
You better visit Vmag motorsport. They are expert in repairing Honda and eplacing all these seals are a norm to them. The workshop is also nearby Bandar Sri Damansara.

Definitely will be much cheaper than 3k.
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Any location ?
TScy97
post Aug 23 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 23 2020, 03:01 PM)
22k you can buy another 10 year old car! Lol
What's wrong with the brakes btw??
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The servo braking system leak. The hybrid braking system is special. The computer will maintain the pressure at Bout 14.2 kpa while in low speed and 18.x while on high speed. Each time you step on the brake the pressure is being reduced . When the pressure drop below 13kpa you will hear a zizzzz mosquito sound that is when the pressure is being pumped. In the case of faulty or leak, some how the pressure can't be maintained. In this case you will hear warning sound and hazard light while pressing the brake. The brake also feel some how less effective. Actually according to the specialist this system is delicate and needs special care. While changing brake pad pressure needs to be released to avoid hurting the valves in the brakes. .. brake fluid needs to be bleed... Etc..all these are not being advised by hsc. So the specialist change the shine servo units. The price are cheaper because the part are not brand new but used part bid from Japan.

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post Aug 23 2020, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 03:59 PM)
Any location ?
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18, Jalan Gangsa SD 5/3C, Sri Damansara, Kepong, 52200, Kuala Lumpur, WP Kuala Lumpur, 52200
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post Aug 23 2020, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Aug 23 2020, 04:05 PM)
The servo braking system leak. The hybrid braking system is special. The computer will maintain the pressure at Bout 14.2 kpa while in low speed and 18.x while on high speed. Each time you step on the brake the pressure is being reduced . When the pressure drop below 13kpa you will hear a zizzzz mosquito sound that is when the pressure is being pumped. In the case of faulty or leak, some how the pressure can't be maintained. In this case you will hear warning sound and hazard light while pressing the brake. The brake also feel some how less effective. Actually according to the specialist this system is delicate and needs special care. While changing brake pad pressure needs to be released to avoid hurting the valves in the brakes. .. brake fluid needs to be bleed... Etc..all these are not being advised by hsc. So the specialist change the shine servo units. The price are cheaper because the part are not brand new but used part bid from Japan.
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Hmm first time I hear car got such brake problem, not too old car some more. Seems like Honda reliability is not that good anymore.
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post Aug 23 2020, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 23 2020, 03:01 PM)
22k you can buy another 10 year old car! Lol
What's wrong with the brakes btw??
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If I'm not mistaken, it's braking system related to hybrid system.

His car is a Civic Hybrid.
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post Aug 23 2020, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Aug 23 2020, 08:13 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, it's braking system related to hybrid system.

His car is a Civic Hybrid.
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Yeah hybrid cars are complicated. I wonder if the fuel saving is really worth it.
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post Aug 23 2020, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Aug 23 2020, 08:13 PM)
If I'm not mistaken, it's braking system related to hybrid system.

His car is a Civic Hybrid.
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Yes correct.

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