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 Honda City GN 2, IMMD + Honda Sensing = RM106k

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post Oct 13 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Oct 13 2020, 04:10 PM)
the SA really haprak

told that new car won't get rebate, unless she meant the RS as new car
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86k for V
sst curently still applicable
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post Oct 13 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(ping325 @ Oct 13 2020, 05:01 PM)
FYI car size comparison as below :  drool.gif  drool.gif
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i feel the old city bigger ranting.gif ranting.gif
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post Oct 13 2020, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 13 2020, 04:59 PM)
This is the most unimpressive launch i ever seen. Hoo Hah with RS version non stop and when launch sorry RS version next year. What the hell??
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what to do , honda malaysia really aiks


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post Oct 13 2020, 06:02 PM

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finally City have this beam drool.gif drool.gif
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post Oct 13 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 13 2020, 09:52 PM)
What does the beam do? Is it at the boot area?
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rear impact beam ,
for small crash should be able to better protect the car ass

old model doesnt have this
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 14 2020, 10:14 AM)
Just notice RS version dun have spare tyre. Only provide repair kit with inflator. Hmm.... Seems like the boot not enough space to put spare tyre.

Do RS still have 1 normal battery or only one unit of battery behind the boot?
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1 normal battery plus the hybrid battery at the back
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 13 2020, 11:20 PM)
The S variant is not badly equipped. I was expecting steel rim with cover, 2 airbags and no rear AC vent.

I wonder it worth to pay extra 7K+ for the E variant. hmm.gif
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buy V je
S n E not much Diff biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2020, 05:26 PM

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Due to CMCO , Selangor n Kl customer no car delivery LOL

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post Oct 14 2020, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(MalekChua @ Oct 14 2020, 05:28 PM)
Still ok lah. CMCO only 2 weeks. RS need to wait 3 months.
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with no price lagi
but i personally think gov will give incentive gaogao to hybrid ckd in malaysia so Rs price might be around 95k with SST
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post Oct 14 2020, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 14 2020, 06:15 PM)
Need to limit to E variant. If not, later will go all the way to RS  smile.gif
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but E 4 airbags only
and no leather on steering
u can go try the V steering first, its a smooth leather type like on the civic
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post Oct 15 2020, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(J Camp @ Oct 14 2020, 09:55 PM)
i read the spec on the website. the V spec comes with 8 speakers.
iinm all doors have 1 speaker. plus one tweeter at each of the pillar.

so in total 6 speakers. i'm just wondering, where is the remaining 2 speakers?  hmm.gif
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at these circular place

however dont put much high hope on these speaker , treble still okay okay but
its no longer the day where car original speaker produce punchy bass bye.gif bye.gif
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post Oct 15 2020, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(zairee2580 @ Oct 14 2020, 08:54 PM)
Without immd, the torque is more or less then vios. Is it still a better option? 🤔
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you mean the normal petrol city ?
if thats so this is my list of advantage and disadvantage

ADVANTAGE TOWARD CITY

1) Higher power across the band , 121ps 145nm paired with a more rev happy cvt
in real world, vios need to press harder to kept up with city and run out of power sooner than city , the HP is even lesser

2) Space
honda city space is unbeatable by vios , even larger than the new almera,

3) More logical design
in 2020 , vios meter still reflect sunlight while u were driving... this is a big NO NO
both car come with keyless entry but city have both Driver and Front passenger key detection, you would appreciate the convenience if you have other car with 1 side keyless
honda city still come with beeping , yes the beep when u lock n unlock your car, vios only do light show
LED headlight on City vs the traditional halogen headdlight
center arm rest that driver could use , vios one is unusable
city come with 1 touch triple signal, Vios X de ... even a 24k axia have but not this vios

4) Lower fuel consumption
is not that vios cant be fuel efficient but in city you can have fuel efficient and power at the same time, vios on the other hand , choose 1 only, U drive a little aggressive and will get Fc is down to the drain

5) SAFETY
WHile vios have additional knee airbags, BSM and RCTA , City have a tougher body
Asean Ncap video say it all, Both 5 star but seeing how the A pillar of Vios bend....
even the Perodua famous Milo Tin myvi is performing better than vios in this regard ....

ADVANTAGE TOWARD VIOS

1) The better reputation one
Generally less complain, better ckd car in malaysia

2) NVH is better
Vios is holding the best NVH among Japanese brand B segment sedan , i dont think new city can fight this
tyre noise is well suppress in Vios , this new gen city i sit on the rear for 1km ride, doesn't impress me for NVH

3) Newest Safety Assist
BSM and RCTA , I'M unsure if you try this two before but let me tell you , BSM in vios doenst reach as fast , having delay here n there
sometime the car pass already the light still there.... if you turn your signal while sensor picking up something on that corner , it would beep at you non stop and no OFF button for this

4) Better speaker
Vios Speaker produce much more bass than city, couple with better NVH , its a more relaxing car to travel on long distance i suppose

5) better bump absorbsion
Vios suspension just soak up alot of imperfection on the road. If you live in a area where broken pavement is common, vios can literally iron out most of the road imperfection


IF after reading all this you still want to get a vios kan , please hold your horse , A newly updated version with LED headlight is coming soon, like in 2 month Soon
wait for that if you want vios rclxm9.gif

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post Oct 15 2020, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 15 2020, 07:51 AM)
Can you do a comparison with the new Almera too? Thanks
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Almera hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Advantage to City

1) POWER
while almera have more torque on the wider rpm band, but it run out of power as soon as u hit 80km/h
if you mostly travel in town with speed not more than 70km/h then almera is good enough

2) Price
City top out at 86k , Almera high spec is 9xk

3) Space
Almera manage to let people thinks its big but not this time around
almera only measure 1380mm shoulder room on rear seat, mind you a new myvi measure 1450mm innocent.gif
boot space is smaller on almera too

4) Realibilty
Nissan have a terrible CVT reliability issue , you can join any xtrail or serena club , often you could see people claiming warranty for cvt

5) Better seat
While Nissan claim 0 gravity seat for almera, but it doesn't feel good when you actually sit on it ,its on the smaller side

6) less maintenance in long run
3 cyclinder car tend to be more shaky ma, so a good engine mounting is needed, thus when it spoiled the price could be hefty

7) better infotainment system
almera one lag here n there , obvious sia


Advantage to Almera
1) Torque
Almera will let you feel a gently push with most torque release on low rpm, city loose out abit on this

2) Advanced Safety
radar AEB is present on Almera which honda city V , E , S doesn't have . but it do come with slight problem as its Radar based, it only detect car not bike no pedestrian

3) big LCD meter
this meter really smashed honda gao gao, its clear its bright , with tons of information , city one analog design like shit ranting.gif ranting.gif

4) look better
I actually think almera look a tad prettier than city brows.gif brows.gif

5) FREE 5 YEAR SERVICE
this could easily save 5k or more


Nissan is build by TanChong , and their reputation is down to drain one So if you ask me i wont purchase almera even its cheaper than city whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Oct 15 2020, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Oct 15 2020, 08:16 AM)
supposed to go test drive this Saturday but have to cancel

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thats why on the first day already go molest the car brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(J Camp @ Oct 15 2020, 11:22 AM)
oic. so its at the rear door.

i knew it could not be at the trunk/ boot bcoz when those car reviewer open the trunk i did not see any speakers mounted there.
i sat in my friend's previous city with 4 speakers and the sound was not that good compare with my old persona with 2 speakers at the trunk. (clarity and bass)

i notice many b segment car nowadays no speakers at the trunk. i guess it could be cost savings issue.
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design issue kut, most new car rear board dont have anthing on it

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post Oct 15 2020, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 15 2020, 02:05 PM)
Thanks for the update. How's the rear head room of the new City ?
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worst than gm6 honda city
but better than almera,
Im 180cm tall and my hair is brushing the headliner for almera

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post Oct 15 2020, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Oct 15 2020, 02:34 PM)
how do you feel when seated at the rear of the new City? Head room and thigh support. Thanks.
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headroom definitely smaller than old GM6 city
thigh support is not so good for my height
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post Oct 15 2020, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Oct 15 2020, 03:18 PM)
Disregarding the size, what do you think of the City RS top spec vs Proton X50 flagship?
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Sadly i didnt have the chance to touch x50 yet

but here what i would rated x50 vs city

Looks - x50
interior perceived quality - x50
Feature - x50
Power - x50
Aftersales service - city
Space - city
Ease of access - city
Speed of repair - city

if you want power, X50 memang the best but bear in mind that x50 flagship will not come cheap , expected to be 110k ish +-
Design wise its definitely a looker, interior also look upmarket

The only thing to worry is the reliability of the car, Enter Chinese X70 group and you will be amazed by the all sort of issue face by the owner
but dont enter english or malay group one, the hardcore fans there will kick you out for posting issue with car bye.gif bye.gif

And if you bad luck encounter accident, parts availability is a hot issue with these Geely based Proton


For me X50 is for those who are willing to accept challenge
city is for average folks that wanna play safe

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post Oct 16 2020, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(caviars @ Oct 16 2020, 12:26 PM)
Yeah, the reverse cam is the only "really useful" addition. Other are nice to have stuff. Does the camera come with multi view and dynamic/moving guideline?
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it does come with multiangle view but not sure about dynamic parking guide
one thing to note, this resolution of this camera is so low that i think a myvi reverse cam is better than this bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post Oct 17 2020, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(clockpulses @ Oct 17 2020, 12:16 AM)
Not sure. Never own a Honda. But UC6 should be good enough i think
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E n S get uc6 but high spec get toyo customize tyre , not sure the performance at all
the thread seem to be economy tyre
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post Oct 17 2020, 01:28 AM

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i wonder can we put a real spare tyre inside this city or not
space saver tyre is close to useless one


after searching honda india
their city do come with full size spare tire with alloy rim somemore dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif

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