Is it too difficult to find a job?
Is it too difficult to find a job?
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Aug 8 2020, 06:08 PM, updated 6y ago
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Is it too difficult to get a job in arts field in this current economy situation? I'm afraid that it will be hard to find a job after I graduate. Im studying illustration course
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Aug 10 2020, 01:01 PM
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very depends on your skill and design sense, for most people, it's really hard
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Aug 21 2020, 05:10 PM
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Let me tell you the actual scene in the market, one job posting in jobstreet and there will be more than a 100 designers applying. By just studying illustrations doesn't help, malaysian employers prefer designers with multiple skill sets. axeus26 liked this post
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Sep 4 2020, 01:11 AM
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8 posts Joined: Aug 2020 From: Netherlands,Amsterdam |
I think that design skills is not enough to get a decent job.. I think you must know something else, may be smm+design. Good combo
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Sep 20 2020, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(kane8907 @ Sep 18 2020, 05:08 PM) If you are the one who always can sense design elements and have the ability to re-life them, and understand intentions from boss and colleagues',also have high efficiency and accuracy. To find a job is not hard. I'm curious, what sort of design skills do most companies look for?The society need peoples to solve problems, but not need students who always ask why. I'm more towards character design, concept art & storyboarding myself, but those may not be enough. |
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Sep 21 2020, 02:25 AM
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15 posts Joined: Feb 2014 From: Negeri Sembilan |
Hi @MIkori,
To answer your question I'll say depending on your perspective. There's 2 types of designers. ![]() Type A designers like to learn everything because they want to settle on their own. Most companies will look for a person like this, saving money is every company’s priority. Type B designers learn from the course and apply with no care, just wack whatever they know like a boss. Naturally their skillsets are very limited and might not be able to handle multiple things. Still ok if you are good at creativity but the chances for getting an interview is low compared to type A designer unless the company only wants them to do purly graphic design. ![]() First of all, I graduated in the Multimedia Design field and my only interest is web development but not design. Because I’m a type A designer and wanted to handle things by myself so I’ve spent a lot of time (I mean really a lot) learning whatever things that are related to my project/job/work. Since, my course will learn most of the basic part of the design and it gave me a foundation on each design category plus having an internship is compulsory so I really learn more things that I can never obtain in the course. Taking Web Design as an example, if you want to develop a website (I’m talking about practical web development, not one click live website from WIX or other platforms that can launch a website as easy as ABC) you will automatically require knowledge of using design tools and coding languages. But it still lacks on how to publish a website, that becomes another part and it shouldn't be handled by you. In real life, developing a website should be including a team of Web Designers, Web Developers and Server Engineers. Because each of them has their own purpose and task. Without them it is hard to launch a website with peace unless you are a Full-Stack Developer with knowledge on Server Management. So in this case, if I want to develop a website on my own I’ll need to become a Full-Stack Developer or at least understand the foundation of a Web Designer, Web Developer and Server Engineers. ![]() Last but not least, a little tip for you if you are wondering what kind of skill sets would be enough for a graphic designer. I’ll say depending on which field you are going. If you are going into the printing field, then you need to know the foundation of printing. Like what is bleeding, outline, plotting, preparing print files, different kinds of media and sizes and more. If you know customer services / using printing machines that would be an added advantage to the company because most companies will look for that person in the current market especially small companies. ![]() If you are going into the marketing agency, then you need to know the foundation of marketing and design. Like responsive design, different sizes on different online platforms. If you know copywriting / web design related that would be an added advantage to the company especially a small company. ![]() So how do you feel after reading my feedback and advice? I can tell you this based on my experience because I used to intern in a marketing agency, work as a web designer & developer and also work as a graphic design cum customer services plus production in Singapore. But currently I'm back to square 1 and just started learning online marketing now. How tough right? ![]() Good luck on choosing your career path and have a nice day! Regards, Anderson Koh |
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Nov 8 2020, 03:09 AM
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Although I am not in the field myself, my honest opinion is, yes, it may be tough. Unfortunately.
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Dec 7 2020, 11:12 PM
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It will be freaking tough for sure,
but you can win and standout by having a very strong portfolio or heck, go and build your own brand or audience instead of waiting for the industry to tell you your worth This post has been edited by Gmruleme: Dec 7 2020, 11:13 PM |
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Mar 12 2021, 09:22 AM
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2 posts Joined: Aug 2005 |
very depends on your skill
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Mar 13 2021, 03:47 PM
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Well, everyone claim they are "designers" even your own potential client also the same thing. I have drop from this job after freelancing for quite some time. Instead now I venture into product accommodation and on demand personal product design as partner for a few kickstarters instead of just hire for work.
The pay is 3 times better then what I use to. The funny thing about design is .... if you work for what someone wants (at least this apply to malaysia) you will always get low pay for your time. If you make something someone want they will pay whatever price you demand. I learn this from a small molding company ... before MCO they cast for client, get kuli price. During MCO no work, so we just make funny funny stuff and post them online. Now people are just buying up all the limited mold design like hot toys. |
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Apr 12 2021, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(NeoMnemonic @ Aug 21 2020, 05:10 PM) Let me tell you the actual scene in the market, one job posting in jobstreet and there will be more than a 100 designers applying. By just studying illustrations doesn't help, malaysian employers prefer designers with multiple skill sets. More than 100 people apply usually. Sometimes can go up to 1000 applications and more just for the same 1 job posting on any job sites. Malaysian employers looking for employees with multiple skill sets apply to every other industry tbh. I'm in the media industry and tbh a lot of employers want someone who have: PR skills Design skills Writing skills Advertising skills Marketing skills Events management skills A lot of requirements but not necessarily need every skill listed. EVen if let's say you have all the skills to offer, they will pay you peanuts. Pay peanuts attract monkeys lah. What to expect. FlierMate liked this post
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Sep 9 2021, 12:24 PM
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designer need to have one skill too..
marketing. know how to market your design to the market and get ur value |
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Sep 14 2021, 04:40 PM
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design is subjective.
its like if u can meet a boss that like ur design. if not then basically he or she borrow ur hand to draw what they want |
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Sep 17 2021, 12:40 PM
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there's a lot of design vacancy in jobstreet. nowadays they require you to do digital marketing more than design works.
you have to learn about FB marketing, active in insta or tik tok. if you encounter cincai boss, then design work will be a bit easy, but if you encounter a fussy boss. the amendment counts are crazy. I'm a graphic designer for printing almost 20 years. nowadays I'm in the sales department. Design is subjective. You'll find yourself facing lots of rejection from clients. but there will be small chance to get a cincai client, see design, then say ok proceed. |
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Sep 17 2021, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Apr 12 2021, 08:57 PM) More than 100 people apply usually. Sometimes can go up to 1000 applications and more just for the same 1 job posting on any job sites. add in Web design skill. you have to learn about generating user data, mailing, e-commerce thing also. Event management skills can be easily learn as you work, like throw you to manage an exhibition, product launching.Malaysian employers looking for employees with multiple skill sets apply to every other industry tbh. I'm in the media industry and tbh a lot of employers want someone who have: PR skills Design skills Writing skills Advertising skills Marketing skills Events management skills A lot of requirements but not necessarily need every skill listed. EVen if let's say you have all the skills to offer, they will pay you peanuts. Pay peanuts attract monkeys lah. What to expect. pay is little, the career ladder is small. that is why i transition from graphic designer to doing sales administration & marketing. |
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Sep 17 2021, 12:54 PM
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now better find any jobs meanwhile look for own interest. Malaysia company need multi task
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Sep 17 2021, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(jmtstan @ Sep 17 2021, 12:51 PM) add in Web design skill. you have to learn about generating user data, mailing, e-commerce thing also. Event management skills can be easily learn as you work, like throw you to manage an exhibition, product launching. I agree.. In my last job I applied for a content writer job. I got it but when the company signed me on, I was a marketing executive lmao.. So basically I have to do content writing, copywriting, design (logo, posters, web, etc)., paid ads (social media + google ads), even had to go out to find clients also when that has nothing to do with my job scope at all. Even had to do PR and events management works...pay is little, the career ladder is small. that is why i transition from graphic designer to doing sales administration & marketing. And guess how much they paid me? A bit more than rm2000 =_= |
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Sep 17 2021, 10:14 PM
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What kind of art? I think it's not difficult but pay is not good
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Sep 18 2021, 09:23 AM
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i work as graphic designer for wedding, and mostly deals with touch up photos. my HQ distribute cameras.. so hv to do flyers and other promo stuff every month. But then 10 years later, i left the company and switch profession to be business admin & sales. I don't want to rely on design skill to make living. Coz as you grow old, many younger designer will eventually replaces you with a cheaper price. At least now i have the outlet managing, admin, marketing skills on my resume. kyLL liked this post
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Sep 18 2021, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(jmtstan @ Sep 18 2021, 09:23 AM) i work as graphic designer for wedding, and mostly deals with touch up photos. my HQ distribute cameras.. so hv to do flyers and other promo stuff every month. So sad. Art is a unique skill but it doesn't able make living. Without art this world is so boring like robotBut then 10 years later, i left the company and switch profession to be business admin & sales. I don't want to rely on design skill to make living. Coz as you grow old, many younger designer will eventually replaces you with a cheaper price. At least now i have the outlet managing, admin, marketing skills on my resume. |
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