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post Aug 6 2020, 05:56 PM, updated 4y ago

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A Sarawak MP today has criticised the doctor-to-population ratio provided by Putrajaya recently, saying the reality on the ground may not be fully reflected by the number.

DAP’s Kuching MP Dr Kelvin Yii said although the announced ratio was one doctor to every 454 people in the country, the ratios in Sabah and Sarawak are actually 1:856 and 1:662 respectively.
If we were to look at it at a micro-level, especially state by state, we will find a different picture,” he told the press here.

If we go on a more micro-level, and even analyse the urban-rural disparity we will get a closer picture that 45.6 per cent or 98 out of 215 rural clinics in Sarawak do not even have a doctor, and is only run by medical assistants and nurses.”

Dr Yii was responding to yesterday’s statement by Health Minister Datuk Seri Dr Adham Baba claiming that the ratio has surpassed the prescribed 1:500 ration recommended by the World Health Organisation (WHO).
The minister had said this is because Malaysia currently has 71,041 medical doctors working in both public and private sectors, making a ratio of one doctor for every 454 people.

Yii also said MOH needs to look at the shortages of manpower in other departments as indicated by the Auditor-General’s Report in 2018, citing the Emergency and Trauma Department as being understaffed, underfunded and overworked.

He said this will lead to burnouts, which affect the quality of care given to the patients.

He said there are other limbs that need to be taken into consideration including comprehensive population coverage, adequate health care services and also affordable access to healthcare so to achieve the universal health coverage.

What is more important is actually the distribution of doctors and healthcare workers especially in places of needs especially in the rural areas,” he said, adding that the ministry must make sure that the distribution of healthcare workers are proportionately done throughout the country.

“I also do hope that MOH will not use this ratio as an excuse not to absorb more healthcare workers into public service as we still are in urgent need of greater investment to public healthcare including our human resource.”

Source: Our doctor to population ratio
optprime
post Aug 9 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Aug 6 2020, 05:56 PM)
I was told there’s a huge discrepancy between the private and government healthcare where most of these doctors are in the government side. Beside that, i have been told too that some doctors are working for both government and private sector 😅
Out of these numbers, not many are specialists.
I have personally experienced both public hospital and private hospital settings. My family, loved ones and myself have been in constant follow up with the doctors.
My big question is where can we find better doctors- private or government hospital?
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post Aug 9 2020, 02:12 PM

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Kesian the "dan lain2"

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Apart from the lain2 issue i think the main issue is facilities and money

You put specialist in a rural hospital without facilities, they can't do anything. That's why there is a skill discrepancy in those areas manned by only nurses etc

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post Aug 10 2020, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Aug 9 2020, 02:12 PM)
Kesian the "dan lain2"

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Apart from the lain2 issue i think the main issue is facilities and money

You put specialist in a rural hospital without facilities, they can't do anything. That's why there is a skill discrepancy in those areas manned by only nurses etc
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If there’s no specialist in the rural area, i guess these folks would have to travel far to seek specialist care. I suppose there’s no private hospital in these areas too, right?
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post Aug 10 2020, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(optprime @ Aug 10 2020, 07:43 AM)
If there’s no specialist in the rural area, i guess these folks would have to travel far to seek specialist care. I suppose there’s no private hospital in these areas too, right?
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Yeah unfortunately

If the place have the facility at least the sick patient don't have to travel but the doctor can visit on certain occasions
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post Aug 10 2020, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Aug 10 2020, 11:48 AM)
Yeah unfortunately

If the place have the facility at least the sick patient don't have to travel but the doctor can visit on certain occasions
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I understand if private healthcare did not invest into rural areas but why wouldn’t the government improve the facilities of their hospitals in these areas?
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post Aug 10 2020, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(optprime @ Aug 10 2020, 08:18 PM)
I understand if private healthcare did not invest into rural areas but why wouldn’t the government improve the facilities of their hospitals in these areas?
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Vote to money efficiency
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post Aug 11 2020, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(sakuraboo @ Aug 10 2020, 09:26 PM)
Vote to money efficiency
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I don’t quite get it. You mean vote for a better government? A government with integrity?
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(optprime @ Aug 9 2020, 02:07 PM)
I was told there’s a huge discrepancy between the private and government healthcare where most of these doctors are in the government side. Beside that, i have been told too that some doctors are working for both government and private sector 😅
Out of these numbers, not many are specialists.
I have personally experienced both public hospital and private hospital settings. My family, loved ones and myself have been in constant follow up with the doctors.
My big question is where can we find better doctors- private or government hospital?
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I'm also at a loss to your question. sad.gif
But if one were to go to private, if in the event things don't turn out well, the private hospital will eventually transfer the patient to the government hospital.

So if it were me and I need to pay for hospitalisation, I would still choose to go to government.
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Let me try to locate some fellow ktards who are doctors and tag them in here for feedbacks.
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post Aug 11 2020, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Aug 11 2020, 06:10 PM)
I'm also at a loss to your question.  sad.gif
But if one were to go to private, if in the event things don't turn out well, the private hospital will eventually transfer the patient to the government hospital.

So if it were me and I need to pay for hospitalisation, I would still choose to go to government.
Source: Patients free to choose paying service

Source: Malaysian Full Paying Patient Services
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Let me try to locate some fellow ktards who are doctors and tag them in here for feedbacks.
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I know where you’re coming from. Just last year, a friend from church had his daughter transferred to Selayang hospital after a week in a private hospital. Apparently she had liver failure and the private hospital couldn’t do much more. Selayang is where you can find the country best liver specialists.
At times I would love to choose government hospital but the queue and waiting time are not really my cup of tea.


 

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