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post Jan 2 2023, 01:45 PM

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If not used for devices, the CAT6 can be used to connect your AP.
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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 2 2023, 01:25 PM)
May I ask Wi-Fi AP means lan point?
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AP mean Access Point, something like router, for WIFI.
It need connect via LAN Cable to Main Router.
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post Jan 2 2023, 05:03 PM

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i am doing renovation too and planning to add LAN point in study room as the router will be at living area.

but what if the cat6 is faulty in the future? is not easy to replace after that right
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post Jan 2 2023, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 2 2023, 05:03 PM)
i am doing renovation too and planning to add LAN point in study room as the router will be at living area.

but what if the cat6 is faulty in the future? is not easy to replace after that right
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If you do proper installation with piping, can just fish out, pull and replace.
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post Jan 2 2023, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 2 2023, 11:16 AM)
Hi all. I’m currently in renovation for my double storey corner lot and thinking this question as well.

Unifi installed a modem and router at the centre of my house (second floor) few years ago. And since we are in renovation, I’m thinking this issue need to pay attention on it.

a) Since you guys prefer to install CAT 6a cable first, is that mean, let’s say I have six bedroom, one living room and one kitchen, I need to install eight cable from the router to the relevant bedroom and etc?

b) How about CCTV cable?

As I think it might cheaper to buy it from Taobao, hence thinking for a plan and need your assistance.
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Just be careful when buying technical stuff on taobao. You need to know what you are buying and the exact details. For example, CAT 6A in taobao is called “super six” translated. Proper CAT 6A should be > 250Mhz frequency, lesser than that is “CAT 6 standard”. I bought a CAT 6A with 200Mhz from taobao, at price slightly than branded copper CAT 6 in malaysia. And can terminate with just usual cat 6 RJ45 connectors. Cat 6A (or at least shielded ones) and 7 need thicker ones.

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post Jan 2 2023, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(idealhometech @ Jan 2 2023, 03:27 PM)
AP mean Access Point, something like router, for WIFI.
It need connect via LAN Cable to Main Router.
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Thanks.
Do you mean port like this that attached on wall?
And is that consider a mesh wifi on the photo?
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post Jan 2 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Jan 2 2023, 09:41 PM)
Just be careful when buying technical stuff on taobao. You need to know what you are buying and the exact details. For example, CAT 6A in taobao is called “super six” translated. Proper CAT 6A should be > 250Mhz frequency, lesser than that is “CAT 6 standard”. I bought a CAT 6A with 200Mhz from taobao, at price slightly than branded copper CAT 6 in malaysia. And can terminate with just usual cat 6 RJ45 connectors. Cat 6A (or at least shielded ones) and 7 need thicker ones.

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Thanks. I'll take note on this.
How much you bought for the cable?
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post Jan 2 2023, 10:50 PM

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LAN points more stable and u can connect all the mesh slaves to it. Faster too. Wireless very unpredictable and unstable depending on the number of obstacles.
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post Jan 2 2023, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 09:46 PM)
I am renovating my double storey house, thinking how to make the wifi full coverage in my house.

Should I pull the LAN(cat 6) cable on each point? Or I should use Mesh network instead of pull cable? Which one is more stable and useful in the future?
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LAN for speed and low latency
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 2 2023, 10:50 PM)
LAN points more stable and u can connect all the mesh slaves to it. Faster too. Wireless very unpredictable and unstable depending on the number of obstacles.
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I’m sorry but could you elaborate more?

Do you mean I should install LAN point at each major area of my house, and install mesh router by using the LAN point?
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post Jan 2 2023, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM)
But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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Mesh wifi sounds so geng, but in the end still use wifi.

Wired > wireless

I was using mesh wifi 6, Maxis 300Mbps at first floor (need to be near to router to get full speed)

Mesh to ground floor 130Mbps only.

Now I am planning to pull cat6 cable from first floor to ground floor 2nd router (support easymesh) , PC + tv box + PS4 all connect to 2nd router.

Mesh is overprice for the performance (although might be useful for some who don't want drilling or cables can be seen)
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post Jan 3 2023, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(NO1K @ Jan 2 2023, 11:25 PM)
Mesh wifi sounds so geng, but in the end still use wifi.

Wired > wireless

I was using mesh wifi 6, Maxis 300Mbps at first floor (need to be near to router to get full speed)

Mesh to ground floor 130Mbps only.

Now I am planning to pull cat6 cable from first floor to ground floor 2nd router (support easymesh) , PC + tv box + PS4 all connect to 2nd router.

Mesh is overprice for the performance (although might be useful for some who don't want drilling or cables can be seen)
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I’m currently doing renovation for my house and thinking the internet issue.
Can you advise?

My house is corner lot three storey, beside mobile devices, and for sure smart tv and surveillance system will use the internet as well.
what can I do so that I can enjoy the maximum signal around the home (no interruption for video call or survikkeage
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post Jan 3 2023, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 3 2023, 01:10 AM)
I’m currently doing renovation for my house and thinking the internet issue.
Can you advise?

My house is corner lot three storey, beside mobile devices, and for sure smart tv and surveillance system will use the internet as well.
what can I do so that I can enjoy the maximum signal around the home (no interruption for video call or survikkeage
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A wired connection is the best connection there is when considering signal strength and integrity. While still on renovations, why not run a set of Cat 6 (or better) from each floor (make sure there is a power socket at this floor location) back to where you are planning your incoming internet termination?
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how about using those power adapter with ethernet port? they are no difference with mesh wifi performance right?
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post Jan 3 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 2 2023, 11:16 PM)
I’m sorry but could you elaborate more?

Do you mean I should install LAN point at each major area of my house, and install mesh router by using the LAN point?
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Every mesh slave units has a LAN port for Ethernet connection.

Mesh is good for people who don't want to renovate but the speed performance depends on the obstructions inside the apartment. If too many walls, the speed to drop.

Since you're renovating, better add a LAN socket for each room or area. That way, u will future proof the property.

Once done, u just connect the slave units to common area LAN sockets like hallways or whichever blind spots.
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post Jan 3 2023, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Jan 3 2023, 07:31 AM)
A wired connection is the best connection there is when considering signal strength and integrity. While still on renovations, why not run a set of Cat 6 (or better) from each floor (make sure there is a power socket at this floor location) back to where you are planning your incoming internet termination?
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 3 2023, 09:49 AM)
how about using those power adapter with ethernet port? they are no difference with mesh wifi performance right?
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jan 3 2023, 10:01 AM)
Every mesh slave units has a LAN port for Ethernet connection.

Mesh is good for people who don't want to renovate but the speed performance depends on the obstructions inside the apartment. If too many walls, the speed to drop.

Since you're renovating, better add a LAN socket for each room or area. That way, u will future proof the property.

Once done, u just connect the slave units to common area LAN sockets like hallways or whichever blind spots.
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Sorry guys, but I'm still don't get it.

There is no problem I can add LAN point for important area at my house since renovation now, but most of our devices using wifi connection (like mobile and iPad).
In that case, what should I do to ensure the entire house have same strength of wifi (let's say to avoid disconnection video call / streaming from living room to kitchen)
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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 3 2023, 12:32 PM)
Sorry guys, but I'm still don't get it.

There is no problem I can add LAN point for important area at my house since renovation now, but most of our devices using wifi connection (like mobile and iPad).
In that case, what should I do to ensure the entire house have same strength of wifi (let's say to avoid disconnection video call / streaming from living room to kitchen)
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Simple explanation? Just do it!

More technical explanation? The internet performance will be better for both file transfers and Internet connectivity

Just make sure every room has 1 LAN socket. All the sockets will then go to a centralised location (example, the hall next to the fibre socket).

Now, the primary mesh will connect to the fibre modem and 1 cable to the hall LAN socket. The wireless signal is enough to cover the hall, kitchen and common bathrooms.

Next, the slave mesh (2 units) connect to B1 and B2 LAN sockets. This will cover the remaining of the blind spots.

Typically, those for opt for mesh will link both primary and slave via WiFi but the performance varies depending on the property itself. If too many wall, the performance will drop.

When each room has its own LAN sockets, u can move the slave mesh until the performance is satisfactory.

Slave meshes connect via LAN cables will be more stable and less latencies.

Once done, the WiFi signals will be much stronger and seamless when moving from 1 area to another.
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post Jan 3 2023, 02:46 PM

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Power over ethernet is still not as fast as LAN and not as stable.

There is also an issue if your house has 3-phase wiring - ifthe electrical wiring is on a different phase, the data can't reach the 2 points


QUOTE(hihihehe @ Jan 3 2023, 09:49 AM)
how about using those power adapter with ethernet port? they are no difference with mesh wifi performance right?
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post Jan 3 2023, 02:52 PM

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1. Decide where your Unifi / MAXIS modem will be located (usually ground floor)
2. Then decide where you want your Access Point to be (rule of thumb would be 1 floor, 1 Access point). These would usually be in the general area (e.g. Living room, Family room on Level 1, etc)
3. Now add additional devices that might use the LAN point (e.g. SmartTV, AppleTV ,CCTV camera, MFP printers) - at this part add more LAN points to the location
4. Make sure to have sufficient electrical socket at the LAN points (the devices will also need electrical to run them)


QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 3 2023, 12:32 PM)
Sorry guys, but I'm still don't get it.

There is no problem I can add LAN point for important area at my house since renovation now, but most of our devices using wifi connection (like mobile and iPad).
In that case, what should I do to ensure the entire house have same strength of wifi (let's say to avoid disconnection video call / streaming from living room to kitchen)
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post Jan 3 2023, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Jan 2 2023, 10:35 PM)
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Thanks.
Do you mean port like this that attached on wall?
And is that consider a mesh wifi on the photo?
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This also 1 type AP.

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