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TShendry91
post Aug 4 2020, 09:46 PM, updated 6y ago

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I am renovating my double storey house, thinking how to make the wifi full coverage in my house.

Should I pull the LAN(cat 6) cable on each point? Or I should use Mesh network instead of pull cable? Which one is more stable and useful in the future?
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post Aug 4 2020, 09:51 PM

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LAN cables more stable
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post Aug 4 2020, 09:53 PM

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Put lan use at least cat 6.i regret did not do it during my renovation. In the end had to run externally around the house. (corner lot)
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:13 PM

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Where possible you should install cable as it is much more stable. At this point you should consider cat 6a/7 or even cat 8 for future proof.

Mesh wifi is quite good nowadays. It should also work for double storey with a pair of mesh. But if your house is not super big even a single powerful router alone may be sufficient. Factors to consider are thickness of your walls, wifi channels clashes, location of your router vs furtherest devices etc

As mesh wifi will keep on improving and routers are more powerful mesh network will be fine for most households. Check out Asus Zenwifi, Netgear Orbi and you will be impressed.
TShendry91
post Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Aug 4 2020, 09:53 PM)
Put lan use at least cat 6.i regret did not do it during my renovation. In the end had to run externally around the house. (corner lot)
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But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM)
But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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If you already doing renovation then better put cable. Also include cctv cable. If existing house then use mesh. I did my cabling about 7 years ago when mesh was lousy.
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM)
But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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Even a top mesh WiFi still can't prevent channel clashing and wifi interference especially from your neighbors. Also I assume you don't have too much glass in your house. Modern houses with tons of glasses will kill your WiFi range quickly especially adding some walls in between.

If nothing else having a cable connection between 2 mesh WiFi routers is still better than using WiFi backhaul.

This post has been edited by blancpain4470: Aug 4 2020, 10:40 PM
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:37 PM)
Even a top mesh WiFi still can't prevent channel clashing and wifi interference especially from your neighbors.

If nothing else having a cable connection between 2 mesh WiFi routers is still better than using WiFi backhaul.
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If I pull the cable, what device should I use to broadcast the wifi signal?
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having a cable connection between 2 mesh WiFi router

Does it mean I can plug my LAN cable into the mesh device to have a better connection.
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:37 PM)
Even a top mesh WiFi still can't prevent channel clashing and wifi interference especially from your neighbors. Also I assume you don't have too much glass in your house. Modern houses with tons of glasses will kill your WiFi range quickly especially adding some walls in between.

If nothing else having a cable connection between 2 mesh WiFi routers is still better than using WiFi backhaul.
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https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1794/
I just study on this link..
All my LAN(upstairs) will pull to my TV cabinet (downstairs), based on the link, I just need to add a switch at the TV cabinet and plug in all my LAN cable, so on the other side, use the LAN cable to plug in the mesh device. Am I right?
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post Aug 5 2020, 12:31 AM

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Yes. If you pull the cable you need to have a point for your mesh router. Then this mesh router will connect to the main mesh router (which connects to your Unifi/Maxis/Time/etc) via your cable. This is more stable than connecting via 5ghz backhaul.

There are many ways to set up Ethernet at home. In your case I assumed your main router is upstairs (?). Then you can run a cable downstairs to the other mesh router. You can have a switch or use the Ethernet ports on the mesh router to connect to other points downstairs. Your cables just need to run from your TV cabinet to other rooms.

I am assuming you are using a pair of mesh routers. Of course you can only use a single router and connect the router directly to the switch in your TV cabinet. Depending on the number of devices this may work. My house has 50 devices so I need a pair of mesh routers.
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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM)
But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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Even if you use mesh wifi, you should install cable for your mesh WiFi backhaul
Most mesh WiFi just using dual band which means there is no band dedicated for backhaul. A wired backhaul will provide top speed at all nodes

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post Aug 5 2020, 08:19 AM

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Mesh is actually quite good nowadays. Unless you are a gamer then LAN is not actually necessary
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post Aug 5 2020, 01:36 PM

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Central router + a few good standalone AP connected by LAN cables (i.e. no need WLC) will be the best e.g. Aruba AP or Huawei ws5200 (in AP mode).

Mesh wifi still use some Wifi bandwidth frequency to connect them together which (constrain available frequencies for AP to device) and it still doesnt solve the concrete/steel mesh penetration of wall issue.

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Aug 4 2020, 09:53 PM)
Put lan use at least cat 6.i regret did not do it during my renovation. In the end had to run externally around the house. (corner lot)
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why not fibre while u at it? lel
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QUOTE(hendry91 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:14 PM)
But Mesh Wifi look so powerful nowadays, it can cover whole house actually.
I can't see why need a LAN if using mesh wifi, anyone?
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LAN stable, Mesh not so stable.

Somemore Mesh consumes electricy whilst cable no need maintenance. Mesh also need to upgrade the router every few years when never technology comes out.
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post Aug 5 2020, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 5 2020, 01:37 PM)
why not fibre while u at it? lel
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You trolling or really asking? This not /k
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post Aug 5 2020, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(jetblast @ Aug 5 2020, 01:42 PM)
You trolling or really asking? This not /k
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Why trolling? UTP cable deteorite over time and also can get interference. Fiber dont. Just need converter back to UTP point for the wall plug
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post Aug 5 2020, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 5 2020, 01:50 PM)
Why trolling? UTP cable deteorite over time and also can get interference. Fiber dont. Just need converter back to UTP point for the wall plug
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No doubt it can be done but at what cost and convenience. Also with new technology can already have up to 5 gbps over cat 6.
Also I said I did this 7 years ago. All my cabling in run through pipes so deterioration is minimized.

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post Aug 5 2020, 02:29 PM

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Sorry TS tumpang thread.

How much is the normal charges to pull LAN cable for typical double storey terrace? From living downstairs to living upstairs.
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QUOTE(blancpain4470 @ Aug 4 2020, 10:13 PM)
Where possible you should install cable as it is much more stable. At this point you should consider cat 6a/7 or even cat 8 for future proof.

Mesh wifi is quite good nowadays. It should also work for double storey with a pair of mesh. But if your house is not super big even a single powerful router alone may be sufficient. Factors to consider are thickness of your walls, wifi channels clashes, location of your router vs furtherest devices etc

As mesh wifi will keep on improving and routers are more powerful mesh network will be fine for most households. Check out Asus Zenwifi, Netgear Orbi and you will be impressed.
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Cat 7 is overkill.

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 5 2020, 01:50 PM)
Why trolling? UTP cable deteorite over time and also can get interference. Fiber dont. Just need converter back to UTP point for the wall plug
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Fibre is overkill.

Cat 6 can support 10 Gbps within 37-55meters. Unless you have a gigantic mansion, it is actually enough. If you have budget, please do go for Cat 6a, have 2x the bandwidth frequencies, and support up to 100m length.

If you have money of coz you can go for cat 7 cat 8 and also fibre. It's like TS asking what car to get for this and that purpose. Proton is like the budget answer, toyota is like the normal answer. Then someone will come in and just say ferrari better. Of cause better la, but need ma?

Questions to think about, when do you realistically think that malaysia will offer 10Gbps connection? and when will all consumer devices have a 10Gbps port?

Just ensure you have cat 6 or 6a ready. then start with 1 wifi mesh router. If you felt that you have connection issues in certain room, just plan a additional mesh node that will fix your connection problem for that area. Don't need to rush in to buy a overkill solution.




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