so falcon still will get 3rrod rite?

Hopefully not.



Not a good enough reason for me to fork out RM1000++ only to put up with a flawed machine that has a 33% chance of frying itself.

It's okay, I'll wait.

Anyway, waiting is no big deal. It's not like I'm going to die from not playing the 360... or be relegated to a social pariah for buying a 360 a few years later than the fanboys.

Not having a 360 on my TV rack now rather than later doesn't exactly mean its the end of the world either.

Besides, did I mention I still got my trusty old Xbox around?

erm i have a question, does the new elite uses this 65nm falcon?

^true that

lets just wait. have a life once in a while

Hi, as opposed to the Zephyr and launch chips, Falcon chips are 65nm (the other 2: 90nm), runs cooler, and the 360 runs quieter. I have the Falcon chipset which I bought from gamestop yesterday. The first one I had was a Zephyr chipset so I returned it (the faceplate and jewel case of free Forza 2 & Ultimate Alliance were broken anyways)

Is there any news about the falcon chip coming to Malaysia? My brother is planning to get a 360 but I dont want hi to get the RROD prone Zephyr and launch model. If you guys could spot any, please list down the store you guys got it from.

How to identify falcon chip:

1. If you look from the bottom vent of the 360, the CPU heatsink does not have any copper heatpipe. The other 2 older console has one
2. From the same vent you should see only 2 lying inductor rings as opposed to 3 lying (Zephyr) and 3 standing (launch model)

more info here, but it might not be relevant to you guys as it involves checking the barcode which may not be pasted on your box. but if you can open up the console and look up the specs that would be healpful

http://forums.xbox.com/1/16690175/ShowPost.aspx#16690175

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Nov 15 2007, 06:03 PM

may i know what is the Lot# and Manuc.Date of your new falcon? lot #0734 and up?

i tot falcon = premium 360 with HDMI?

IINM, there are some premium/elite 360 with HDMI that is still Zephyr (manufactured around or before Jul)

ur right. many are still returning their "gp pro" 360 w/ HDMI output bc they are zephyrs - 90nm, v dont want

u cant besure if the lot # team and man date woul give u a Falcon. But team FDOU and lot 734 seems to be the minimum

Reporting in. I just bought a 360 yesterday (11/13/2007) at a gamestop store in Rochester, NY.

Confirmed!!!:

Team: FDOU
Lot: 0735
Manufacturing Date: 08/31/2007

NOT FALCON! It is a ZEPHYR.

1. Heatpipe on the heatsink
2. 3 lying inductor rings

Then I exchanged it

Updates:

There was some trouble at the local gamestop, they didnt have stock despite promising to bring one for an exchange of my broken one from a nerby sotre. Well it was a miscommunication, he thought I was going there (the nearby store) despite my explicitly telling him that I didnt have transportation. Anyways:

I got a FALCON chipset!

Team: FDOU
Lot #: 0738
Man. date: 9-18-2007

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Nov 15 2007, 03:12 PM

Well Zephyr or Falcon, its still prone to 3rod due to the design flaw of the stock ventilation system on the xbox

Better have the x-clamp remove, Nos Modded, and fans running at 12V

This post has been edited by quiksilve: Nov 15 2007, 03:19 PM

thing is, there's no xclamp in falcon. it runs much cooler which is the core of the problem causing RROD = heat. given that u guys are in malaysia where the room temp is higher than here, it should be more beneficial to get a falcon than a Zephyr.

Dude where are you located? Sounds like you are in US am i correct?

on the falcon mobo, the X-Clamps are still present

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2007/1101/xbox360.htm

but the small revisions made in cooling and lower noise means falcon is still the best model to buy at the moment.

yeah im in ny

ah my mistake. yes there are xclamps. hm i think i heard it back in kotaku comments that it doesnt have xclamps.

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Added on November 15, 2007, 3:31 pmp/ sill take that 3 years rrod warranty over removing the xclamps anytime anyday

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Nov 15 2007, 03:31 PM

Yeah a friend of mine is in SF, i think he also has the new batch running on 65nm and also a HDMI port behind the console. But he told he has no problem on 3rod except that his cd drive is experiencing some rattling sound when loading games.

I will still take the 3 year warranty also. If its still alive after 3 yrs then i will nos mod it

The fact of the matter is the problem hasn't been addressed as of yet and people are still living in delusion that the 65nm chip would cure the RROD problem. Any of the x clamp and NOS modification masters would tell you the same thing. That is.

THE PROBLEM IS : Related to the GPU you could shrink the size of the CPU to that of a peanut but it doesn't change the fact the GPU is the one overheating and causing all the problems. (In fact this has probably been stated numerous times by the gurus such as tot31, Guardian, Reza and so on).

The only viable solution appears to be coming in 2008 when the 65nm chip will be implemented on the GPU so in Malaysia there may not be an increase in realiability till early 2009.

My 2 Cents!! Cheeers!

TOTALLY AGREED!! It's the GPU which is the culprit of 3ROD...not the CPU..eventhough the CPU now 65nm, but GPU still 90nm...hm...still need to get extra fan to blow heat away from the console...or do the NOS mod

Yup i'm glad you guys agree with me hehe.

Even if i get a new Elite xbox in the future will immediately send it to Reza for Nos Mod. save time and piece of mind

hm what about heat then? if the ambient heat is less the GPU should be less than likely to overheat?