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TSwesternkl
post Jul 19 2020, 01:12 AM, updated 6y ago

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Recently my friend invite me for yumcha, he say got quite good passive income.

When meet up, he say he now doing a Korean brand MLM business. Their marketing plan is using binary plan. Almost all products are made in Korea.

The name is "Atomy".

Can anyone tell me how good of Atomy? Is this MLM company good? Or just scam?


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post Jul 19 2020, 01:22 AM

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not a scam, ATOMY around for some time already.

its like Amway, cosway. selling big range of products, from pet food to probiotics, to cosmetics
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post Jul 19 2020, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 19 2020, 01:22 AM)
not a scam, ATOMY around for some time already.

its like Amway, cosway. selling big range of products, from pet food to probiotics, to cosmetics
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Is their products really useful?

Is their business plan worth to join?
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post Jul 19 2020, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 19 2020, 02:10 AM)
Is their products really useful?

Is their business plan worth to join?
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No need pay membership fee right. Jus register n start by using their household product.. their detergent n toothpaste is good
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post Jul 19 2020, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 19 2020, 01:12 AM)
Recently my friend invite me for yumcha, he say got quite good passive income.

When meet up, he say he now doing a Korean brand MLM business. Their marketing plan is using binary plan. Almost all products are made in Korea.

The name is "Atomy".

Can anyone tell me how good of Atomy? Is this MLM company good? Or just scam?
Thanks ya.
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Scam ? if it's scam must be good for the scammer.
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post Jul 19 2020, 03:25 AM

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Not all MLMs are scams (although I don’t subscribe to the philosophy per se) - Tupperware, Amway etc all have a good range of products that are popularly used - and when done correctly, it’s a viable means to make a living.
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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 19 2020, 01:12 AM)
Recently my friend invite me for yumcha, he say got quite good passive income.

When meet up, he say he now doing a Korean brand MLM business. Their marketing plan is using binary plan. Almost all products are made in Korea.

The name is "Atomy".

Can anyone tell me how good of Atomy? Is this MLM company good? Or just scam?
Thanks ya.
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TLDW;
How do they make money
- If by recruiting others, run
- Selling stuff, its ok, then its considered direct selling
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post Jul 19 2020, 08:36 AM

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You can tell if it is a scam, if the MLM promotes some form of membership fees over their products. A friend promoted atomy to me with very low ridiculous minimal fee (or was it free? I can’t remember.) You have to buy their products every 12 months IIRC. I didn’t join because i could get their products from shopee and lazada. I also was too busy with my work to do this MLM.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 19 2020, 02:24 AM)
No need pay membership fee right. Jus register n start by using their household product.. their detergent n toothpaste is good
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Jul 19 2020, 07:22 AM)
Atomy toothpaste is very good. You should try.
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What do you guys mean by toothpaste being good? Is there any obvious result from the toothpaste?
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post Jul 19 2020, 08:56 AM

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Atomy isn't a scam. I have an account with them but I just purely used it to purchase their health products. They have a wide range of daily products to good health products. I taken their probiotics and supplements. It helped to maintain my immune system.

They have outlets in many places and they are like amway.
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post Jul 19 2020, 09:16 AM

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Depends on what you looking for. Its legit.

But don't expect to have very high incomes because there's certain limitations .
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post Jul 19 2020, 09:21 AM

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do check the products, they are likely overpriced.
apparently no membership fee is like the main bait here.

but what do I know, I'm not an MLM advocate.

there are more takes here from other people. do have a read:

https://amp.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/9...nce_with_atomy/

from one of the user:
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It doesn't matter that there's no signup fee. That just means that the company is willing to forego an initial cash investment but will get its money from you a little further down the road without your knowing it.



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post Jul 19 2020, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 19 2020, 01:12 AM)
Recently my friend invite me for yumcha, he say got quite good passive income.

When meet up, he say he now doing a Korean brand MLM business. Their marketing plan is using binary plan. Almost all products are made in Korea.

The name is "Atomy".

Can anyone tell me how good of Atomy? Is this MLM company good? Or just scam?
Thanks ya.
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Basically, all MLM and DS companies are "scams" selling over-priced consumer products, some with dubious claims of extra health benefits or goodness, like can even cure cancer and multiple sclerosis/ALS. They are not very different from life/medical insurance, lottery and casino companies, ie a numbers game. Only the companies are guaranteed riches, not the majority of members and buyers or "fools" = many "fools" being "scammed" by the very few top-tier company founders.

"A fool and his money are soon parted".

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PS - Once you start working and earning, these "scam" companies will be like vultures circling over your head to "eat you alive", ie take away your hard-earned money. "Caveat Emptor".
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post Jul 19 2020, 10:03 AM

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MLM, if you have the passion and time to persuade all your circles or even strangers to join and use said products so that you earn income. If not, better forget about it. Sometimes in the long term your friends even don't want to meet up if you overdo promoting to them.
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post Jul 19 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Jul 19 2020, 08:36 AM)
You can tell if it is a scam, if the MLM promotes some form of membership fees over their products. A friend promoted atomy to me with very low ridiculous minimal fee (or was it free? I can’t remember.) You have to buy their products every 12 months IIRC. I didn’t join because i could get their products from shopee and lazada. I also was too busy with my work to do this MLM.
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Most of the sales on other platform is considered illegal and no warranty.
It is cheap for a reason....
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post Jul 19 2020, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ Jul 19 2020, 10:22 AM)
Most of the sales on other platform is considered illegal and no warranty.
It is cheap for a reason....
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I dont agreed illegal mlm products are cheap. It has to expensive to make believe and also to make the kill before they close shop. Like people said, you want to rob, do it big ...after all jail time and fine are certain when caught
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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Jul 19 2020, 08:36 AM)
You can tell if it is a scam, if the MLM promotes some form of membership fees over their products. A friend promoted atomy to me with very low ridiculous minimal fee (or was it free? I can’t remember.) You have to buy their products every 12 months IIRC. I didn’t join because i could get their products from shopee and lazada. I also was too busy with my work to do this MLM.
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That is the traditional MLM strategy.

Newer MLM has forego the membership fee to entice more people to join. Usually they will have some limitations like you have to buy X amount of product to maintain X amount of discounts for your purchase on your account, X amount of product must be purchased to maintain X amount of membership level or X minimum purchase needs to be made to keep your membership active.

Usually the upline will receive portion of the downline purchase amount as incentives which encourage the upline to aggressively push the downline to over purchase. One of the MLM doing this is LuLaRoe.
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post Jul 19 2020, 01:21 PM

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Those DS companies usually using some lines along these,
It's just changing your household item brands to ours. Since daily got use toothpad, detergent etc
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post Jul 19 2020, 01:25 PM

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But the items they sell tend to be overpriced no?
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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 19 2020, 01:12 AM)
Recently my friend invite me for yumcha, he say got quite good passive income.

When meet up, he say he now doing a Korean brand MLM business. Their marketing plan is using binary plan. Almost all products are made in Korea.

The name is "Atomy".

Can anyone tell me how good of Atomy? Is this MLM company good? Or just scam?
Thanks ya.
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MLM is bad for the market. mediocre products sold at inflated price to cover layers of commission in pyramid scheme. it will die off as online shopping continue to grow and traditional housewives clubs trend down

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/sho...keting-company/
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post Jul 21 2020, 04:19 PM

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have quite few friends selling atomy...it is legit but rather than scam they are more or less like amway cosway so in a way more safe...used to work in typical mlm com and lol too old school, not competitive enough in the market but still surviving 17 years in business
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post Jul 21 2020, 07:24 PM

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Atomy is just like Amway lah. Is Amway a scam? Is Amway product good or not? Well what I can say is depends on individual
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post Jul 21 2020, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Jul 21 2020, 07:24 PM)
Atomy is just like Amway lah. Is Amway a scam? Is Amway product good or not? Well what I can say is depends on individual
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Why the world is tak habis-habis with MLM?
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QUOTE(ketupatlazat @ Jul 19 2020, 01:25 PM)
But the items they sell tend to be overpriced no?
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Iphone is also overpriced, no?
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post Jul 21 2020, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 21 2020, 07:30 PM)
Why the world is tak habis-habis with MLM?
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Now MLM not easy cari makan liao, on downtrend. Already long time MLM can make money, outdated already
People more prefer buy online
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post Jul 21 2020, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Jul 21 2020, 09:09 PM)
Now MLM not easy cari makan liao, on downtrend. Already long time MLM can make money, outdated already
People more prefer buy online
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But Atomy got its own online shopping platform too.
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post Jul 21 2020, 11:16 PM

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Atomy is not a scam and not a pyramid scheme. It is more like amway. There is no fee just purchase one product every 12 months. There is no min purchase. You can buy their RM1.50 shopping bag and be done with it for the whole year.

Having said that, do you mostly want to buy their products or use them to sell their products? MLM selling has a very bad rep and the margins you make on these products are very thin. I can see atomy products in shoppe and lazada. I think there are better alternatives of earning some side hustle than MLM selling like Amway, Cosway and Atomy. OTOH, if you enjoy their products then go ahead. For me, i only like their korean potato ramen costs about RM7.50 but have to purchase the pack of 24. So shoppee and lazada is better for me.
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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Jul 21 2020, 11:16 PM)
Atomy is not a scam and not a pyramid scheme. It is more like amway. There is no fee just purchase one product every 12 months. There is no min purchase. You can buy their RM1.50 shopping bag and be done with it for the whole year.

Having said that, do you mostly want to buy their products or use them to sell their products?  MLM selling has a very bad rep and the margins you make on these products are very thin. I can see atomy products in shoppe and lazada. I think there are better alternatives of earning some side hustle than MLM selling like Amway, Cosway and Atomy. OTOH, if you enjoy their products then go ahead. For me, i only like their korean potato ramen costs about RM7.50 but have to purchase the pack of 24. So shoppee and lazada is better for me.
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The reason i like MLM is for "passive income".

I don't care how good is their products.


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post Jul 21 2020, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Jul 21 2020, 11:25 PM)
The reason i like MLM is for "passive income".

I don't care how good is their products.
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Not really passive. You have to convince someone to buy. If online, there is packing and shipping. Again some time and effort.
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mlm always works well so long as u are smart enough to keep finding gullible ppl to buy them
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Yet i dont see mlm selling house, car or phone. Always ubat here. Shampoo there
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post Jul 22 2020, 02:35 PM

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another one is shop.com
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post Jul 22 2020, 03:22 PM

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If MLM sell and promote membership more than products. Most probably it's a scam. Mostly now have some generic product as their front to cover
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MLM is active income lah
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post Jul 22 2020, 04:05 PM

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Depending on how you define scam.

Some can't profit as claimed by their upline or agent so define MLM as scam (eg. Amway, Herbalife, etc).

Some MLM products are scam (eg. alkaline water cures cancer).


As a pre-filter, if not in the list then most probably not legit in MY.

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QUOTE(N33d @ Jul 22 2020, 03:22 PM)
If MLM sell and promote membership more than products. Most probably it's a scam. Mostly now have some generic product as their front to cover
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Legit MLM doesn't profit from membership fee but from products.

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Atomy is just another amway.
Youre not going to make money out of itm
My cousin do that.
Not even heard he made $
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Jul 19 2020, 07:22 AM)
Atomy toothpaste is very good. You should try.
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I am using atomy toothpaste too. Not sure if it is good or not, I just like the honey taste. 🍯

 

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