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Derek87's sap ha sap ha 350D gallery!, C & C pls , dun just view & leave =)
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==WARNING== THIS VOLUME IS PC FAIR II 2007 not PC FAIR III 2007. PC FAIR III 2007 is on the 12th page
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not bad, very nice...
i like especially the maxis girl 1, looks professional (not coz the girl)  |
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stil ok mah,can improve some more
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bestnya.....
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I thought u go to PC fair to buy pc goods?
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too much headspace
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Lower shutter speed or increase ISO, preferrable 400 or more for better exposure. Good Morning Grand Master Shinchan
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Just set to 24mm and shoot. no need to zoom. lol... with M mode, f4, iso 400 around 1/30 would be enough.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Aug 6 2007, 09:29 AM) Just set to 24mm and shoot. no need to zoom. lol... with M mode, f4, iso 400 around 1/30 would be enough. Where Crissty was standing, it's 1/25 i tried that settings yesterday  |
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 6 2007, 09:30 AM) Where Crissty was standing, it's 1/25 hall 1-5 was ok. had to use kit lens. 50mm too near already with the amount of ppl there. |
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QUOTE(nairud @ Aug 6 2007, 09:38 AM) hall 1-5 was ok. had to use kit lens. 50mm too near already with the amount of ppl there. Shoot portrait-lor what to do ... |
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QUOTE(nairud @ Aug 6 2007, 09:38 AM) hall 1-5 was ok. had to use kit lens. 50mm too near already with the amount of ppl there. there is another wayuse the promoters as barricade did that last pc fair   |
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Or have your friends block the walkway so that you can have a clear shot.
"Move away move away!! OP wants to shoot. You guys better not use flash  " |
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Aug 6 2007, 10:20 AM
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the pics are ok, the chics are woah.
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Aug 6 2007, 10:46 AM
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hehe
the 3rd pic ..... see the guy on the left with the leaflet ? GRAB NOW ..... chicks up for grab ? |
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why the last pic is cropped?a lil blur...
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All of the pictures above i used 400d + kit lens, only the last one i used 90mm-200mm tele lense coz i was toying with it. LOL. So it's blur because i din stand far enough. All pics i used ISO 1600. Haihz... the pictures look noisy to me.. and they doesnt look like taken from a dslr, look more like a normal digital cam. Really was dissappointed.
This was my first attempt on event photographing, so very paiseh also to ask the girls to shoot them, but i forced myself in the end. haha... but was very nervous... So all sifus.. i need advices on how to improve in event photographing. what settings to use... i myself prefer a warm picture.. =) |
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 6 2007, 01:43 PM) why the last pic is cropped?a lil blur... Last pic is cropped a bit coz the maxis t is too big.. and her shoulder positioning doesnt look nice in the pic. LOL. |
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i see...first time nia ma...must go out explore...so many sifu help you here eg shinchan ahleong ac98 and many many more lar...i am just a beginner
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ar.... MSI (left side).... @@
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QUOTE(K.E @ Aug 6 2007, 02:40 PM) ar.... MSI (left side).... @@ LOL.. yeah... @@ |
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hmmm ...... ISO 1600 too high gua >.<
ballroom 400 is enuff .... if got flash then prefrect adi xD ......  better ?? haha .... ( not for spoil ) - - MSI gals pic u snap at sunday right ?  This post has been edited by K.E: Aug 6 2007, 03:00 PM |
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That MSI chick is Cherry?
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i went there, so many people.. >.<
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derek87 we meet that day rite?..
well this is my contribution..did shot much cos bz hovering around... XD im using ISO 1600, lazy bring flash too bulky..lol..   P/s : colour bit out cos i use wrong w/b... = = hand shake c leng loi..  |
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Aug 6 2007, 05:19 PM
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i got request ^^ ...
can derek87 & NonBlooD send me the " MSI Gal 's " Original pic ? plss~ [u know which gal i saying la ~ ] .....  |
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Aug 6 2007, 05:41 PM
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Wahhh fan requesting for girls' pics ... become radio station jor
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Aug 6 2007, 06:03 PM
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wah.... I just got to know that girl's name is cherry from one of my colleagues. Heard that she is also famous in friendster too.
K.E. : my pics u also want meh... so noobish... Nonblood: were u the one holding that 30D with 50mm lense? if yes.. thank god. I need advices... >< |
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Aug 6 2007, 06:09 PM
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at 1600 i don see much grain ler...nice..
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Aug 6 2007, 06:18 PM
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Only when close up will see grain... If u full screen... HABIS. ><
So all sifus...if ISO 400 is recommended for ballroom.. then shutter speed will be slow lo? if 1/8 secs... wah... my hand is like vibrator leh... no tripod = si kiao kiao.... and i dun like pictures using flash... doesnt have the ballroom's ambient feel leh... >< |
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Aug 6 2007, 06:19 PM
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need use until so low de meh? 1/8 tak boleh lar...i think 1/30 or 1/60 can do gua... its not that the ballroom VERY dark...
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Aug 6 2007, 06:32 PM
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i dunno.. i also feel the ballroom is bright... but i use ISO 1600 my shutter speed is around 1/25 ~ 1/40.(f 5.6 , exposure is balance , 18 ~ 21mm) So imagine... ISO400. >< shutter speed will be a lot lower..
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Aug 6 2007, 07:25 PM
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hmm...why lidat? smth wrong with your cam...got dust block the sensor...
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While the 1st pic & the last one is okay, the majority of them needs to go lower, and always remember to take from the head until the stomach at max.
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Aug 6 2007, 08:16 PM
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whats the theory for that?
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 6 2007, 08:16 PM) whats the theory for that? Hmm for portraits its not advisable to take the whole body as i was told by shinchan before. Maybe u can ask his opinion, but for portraits its better to take from head to the body, preferably before the stomach (so wont expose their fat, ) |
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my photo ah...erm...now days still bz wait i free i send u...btw is it the last girl from my post?..im using D50 with yellow strap..u remember?..
hehe...P/s : there is a way to reduce ISO 1600 when u r using D50... |
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Aug 6 2007, 08:25 PM) Hmm for portraits its not advisable to take the whole body as i was told by shinchan before. Maybe u can ask his opinion, but for portraits its better to take from head to the body, preferably before the stomach (so wont expose their fat, ) i learnt smth today  |
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 6 2007, 06:03 PM) wah.... I just got to know that girl's name is cherry from one of my colleagues. Heard that she is also famous in friendster too. you saying me???K.E. : my pics u also want meh... so noobish... Nonblood: were u the one holding that 30D with 50mm lense? if yes.. thank god. I need advices... >< i am holding 30D with 50mm... by the way.. i am very long hair one... |
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 6 2007, 10:09 PM) you saying me??? i think i saw u..herm.. :/ u must b the cool looking guy..hehe...u tie ur hair rite?..i am holding 30D with 50mm... by the way.. i am very long hair one... |
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sorry for the late photos
here is some photo from Penang PC fair... the early birds lining up at 10:30am  inside look  sorry didnt capture any show girl because there isn't any in Penang PC fair, so lame |
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QUOTE(NonBlooD @ Aug 6 2007, 10:55 PM) i think i saw u..herm.. :/ u must b the cool looking guy..hehe...u tie ur hair rite?.. no lah.. me not good looking and i didn`t tie my hair unless have function... maybe i am not the person you saying  |
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snowmei: U were the one who went to the pc fair on the 2nd day and brought the photos u took to get the girls' signature is it? u talked to me at the maxis booth. Was that u?
Non blood: If u're the person that i was talking about. then how do u know who i am? haha... By the way, i wore a pair of jeans and a dark grey polo T that day. This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 6 2007, 11:33 PM |
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:31 PM) snowmei: U were the one who went to the pc fair on the 2nd day and brought the photos u took to get the girls' signature is it? u talked to me at the maxis booth. Was that u? Non blood: If u're the person that i was talking about. then how do u know who i am? haha... By the way, i wore a pair of jeans and a dark grey polo T that day.  never know that that person is you..that day actually i was so tired walk from upper floor till hall 5 then try to walk back to hall 1.... because packed with people... this journey took me 1 hour.... so when i walk pass you.. i busybody a bit and talk with you... |
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 6 2007, 11:49 PM) never know that that person is you..that day actually i was so tired walk from upper floor till hall 5 then try to walk back to hall 1.... because packed with people... this journey took me 1 hour.... so when i walk pass you.. i busybody a bit and talk with you... |
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if im not wrong Reon intro u 2 me...
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:52 PM) Lol... Yeah! it was me... haiyo... u are a lowyat forum member too... LOL... add me add me!! msn msn!! Do u have one? hahaha.... What 50mm lense were u holding that day? How much did u buy that for? i am holding 50mm f/1.8... RM 280 for that... well this is the lens i can afford now as i am still a student.. |
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Aug 6 2007, 11:59 PM
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A student can afford a Canon EOS 30D
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:59 PM) A student can afford a Canon EOS 30D you want to become "A student can afford a Canon EOS 1D Mark III?"....... aiya before that i was planing to get 400D with 430EX... but at the end i get 30D lor.... that`s simple .... |
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:02 PM) sorry for the late photos There are a few show girls in the arena but i don't think you have chance to take it. The space in the arena from booth to booth was too small, there was no space for you to take at all here is some photo from Penang PC fair... the early birds lining up at 10:30am inside look sorry didnt capture any show girl because there isn't any in Penang PC fair, so lame  |
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 7 2007, 07:34 AM) There are a few show girls in the arena but i don't think you have chance to take it. The space in the arena from booth to booth was too small, there was no space for you to take at all got a few mui mui zai la....but not like kl wan, they got custumes, we here Penang chin chin chai chai wan....sad! |
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pic no 1. left hand side girl
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Aug 6 2007, 11:02 PM) sorry didnt capture any show girl because there isn't any in Penang PC fair, so lame |
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 7 2007, 12:10 AM) you want to become "A student can afford a Canon EOS 1D Mark III?"....... That's not 'simple', that's SMART! aiya before that i was planing to get 400D with 430EX... but at the end i get 30D lor.... that`s simple .... |
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QUOTE(NonBlooD @ Aug 6 2007, 11:56 PM) if im not wrong Reon intro u 2 me... Reon? which reon? yikes... Did u get the wrong person? haha... My name is Derek. QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 6 2007, 11:58 PM) i am holding 50mm f/1.8... RM 280 for that... Where did u buy that? Cool pictures i saw that day... why not post some up here.. =)well this is the lens i can afford now as i am still a student.. QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 7 2007, 11:34 AM) That's not 'simple', that's SMART! hmmm... the price of 400D and 30D is a lot difference right? ><  |
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:48 PM) Reon? which reon? yikes... Did u get the wrong person? haha... My name is Derek. Well if you're buying a 400D PLUS other things, you can come up to the price of a bare 30D already.Where did u buy that? Cool pictures i saw that day... why not post some up here.. =) hmmm... the price of 400D and 30D is a lot difference right? >< |
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why so many people waiting before the door even open...got free things ar? this kind of crowd good for stealing...hehe...
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sigh..its ok..haha..nice 2 meet u here then.. XD
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Comments are most welcome. Some tweakings done to the pic.
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:26 PM) Comments are most welcome. Some tweakings done to the pic. Very nice, where is this place?? Sunway Resort?This post has been edited by chowchrist: Aug 7 2007, 09:39 PM |
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QUOTE(chowchrist @ Aug 7 2007, 09:38 PM) Very nice, where is this place?? Sunway Resort? Lagoon View. Next to Sunway College. |
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 7 2007, 09:26 PM) Comments are most welcome. Some tweakings done to the pic. owh my gawd!! this picture is nice!!! u use tripod? or hand? i like the lights!! can even see klcc!! |
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QUOTE(honkit @ Aug 8 2007, 12:56 AM) owh my gawd!! this picture is nice!!! u use tripod? or hand? i like the lights!! can even see klcc!! Wanted to use tripod, but din bring.. LOL... so i used my hand with the aid of the balcony's rail. |
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Tumpang 1 more ISO 1600 shot..
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QUOTE(NonBlooD @ Aug 9 2007, 11:19 PM) Tumpang 1 more ISO 1600 shot.. WOw.. is it overexposed? or my lcd too bright? |
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i sengaja over exposed it, wanna c how far i can push the noise lvl...well i think its batter then i tot...btw its not yet over exposed i think..
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QUOTE(NonBlooD @ Aug 10 2007, 02:08 AM) i sengaja over exposed it, wanna c how far i can push the noise lvl...well i think its batter then i tot...btw its not yet over exposed i think.. haha.. i see.. still consider hi key.. XD |
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lol..i think now its batter..mayb i long time no edit photo taste not same d... = =
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Yeah it's better... haha..
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ISO1600 still so clear....keng...
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Aug 10 2007, 08:32 AM
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u sunway college student or u lived around there?...very nice view, get tripod n retry la, dont waste the opportunity, put aperture 10-15 to get star effect of those light and sharper photo...
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oooh.. im not sunway college or live around there.. haha.. i live at tmn melati.. my gf live there la.. so i made myself a resident card over there.. haha.. Will retry when i go there again.. haha..
Added on August 19, 2007, 1:31 amReally need some serious comments and advices here... i feel really very very strange about the model pic.. it's like the colour is not brilliant at all and the pic is not sharp enough... all comments are most welcome... thanks.. p/s, the reason i only have two photos is because my friend's 400D went out of battery, my other friend played with it in the afternoon.. LOl.. i'll get my own dslr soon. MONASH MOTORSHOW f/4.5, 1/20sec, ISO-800, 52mm, Metering Mode - Pattern? << is this what went wrong?  f/5.6, 1/13sec, ISO-1600, 80mm, Metering Mode - Pattern.  Kamsahamida... This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 19 2007, 01:38 AM |
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Both picture's colour seems to be a bit faded to me.. what do ya guys think? help help..
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Seems that the WB is not accurate. Too warm.
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I agree with compmac, the WB seems out.
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 19 2007, 01:41 AM) Both picture's colour seems to be a bit faded to me.. what do ya guys think? help help.. Why do you say 'help help'? Something wrong with the camera-ah? One more advice, never should the girl too late into the night, they'll look tired ... coz they ARE tired. |
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Aug 19 2007, 02:18 AM) Seems that the WB is not accurate. Too warm. What WB should i use?QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 19 2007, 10:37 AM) Why do you say 'help help'? Something wrong with the camera-ah? I said help help because i need advices mah.. haha...One more advice, never should the girl too late into the night, they'll look tired ... coz they ARE tired. Yikes... I took that shot after snowmei took his.. LOL... anything to DO with the metering mode? This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 19 2007, 11:51 AM |
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Aug 19 2007, 12:09 PM
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I like the shot of the Maxis girl..
Things I've found important in photographing people during indoor areas are: 1. Expression 2. Background (busy or not) 3. Lighting (flash) 4. Zoom (to capture candid stuff) |
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Aug 19 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(etsuko @ Aug 19 2007, 12:09 PM) I like the shot of the Maxis girl.. Thanks, but i was just toying with the tele lense at that time.. but that picture was not sharp enough.. haihz.. really have to shoot more..Things I've found important in photographing people during indoor areas are: 1. Expression 2. Background (busy or not) 3. Lighting (flash) 4. Zoom (to capture candid stuff) |
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Aug 19 2007, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 19 2007, 11:50 AM) What WB should i use? lao ye.. I said help help because i need advices mah.. haha... Yikes... I took that shot after snowmei took his.. LOL... anything to DO with the metering mode? don`t put me on table leh..... |
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Aug 19 2007, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 19 2007, 02:41 PM) lao ye.. where got... im trying to say that ur she doesnt look tired in ur pics mah.. haha...don`t put me on table leh..... |
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Aug 19 2007, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 19 2007, 11:50 AM) What WB should i use? Manual WB. Sifu ac98 would be able to explain better. |
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Aug 20 2007, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Aug 19 2007, 05:58 PM) Manual WB. i used AWB that nite.. hmmSifu ac98 would be able to explain better. This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 20 2007, 02:48 AM |
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Aug 20 2007, 02:52 AM
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Had nothing to do at the studio while my friend is doing his assignment. So i did some shots too.. here they are..
#1 They look gay, but they are not.. just foolers.. LoL..  #2 Sidelight effect  #3 Equipment  Comments and Critics are welcome... Advices too... This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 20 2007, 03:55 AM |
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Aug 20 2007, 03:45 AM
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wah.. so pro..
i never shoot at studio before..  but the 3rd photo.. for me i will increase the lightning brightness abit so that at least can see a bit the chop out word than one black line there... |
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Aug 20 2007, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 20 2007, 03:45 AM) wah.. so pro.. shooting in studio is not pro la.. just one of the learning steps.. haha.. i never shoot at studio before.. but the 3rd photo.. for me i will increase the lightning brightness abit so that at least can see a bit the chop out word than one black line there... for the 3rd photo.. i tried to save it with ps by increasing brightness/exposure/shadow adjustment...still cant... the shadow of the bracket in front is really annoying blocking the letters.. haha.. |
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Aug 20 2007, 01:50 PM
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erm.... pic #2 abit yellow color...
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Aug 20 2007, 02:10 PM
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No 2 will look great for those taking portrait pics in the studio, but 1st, reduce the warmness of the color. As many says, pic no 3 seems noisy.
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Aug 20 2007, 02:14 PM
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Is this better? hmm.. after u guys mentioned it's too warm.. i also think so too....
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Aug 20 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:14 PM) Is this better? hmm.. after u guys mentioned it's too warm.. i also think so too.... Looks much better if u asked me. |
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Aug 20 2007, 02:37 PM
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haish... i really hate pp and ps.. takes so much time.. still struggling to learn shoot and terus can "pakai" haha..
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Aug 20 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:37 PM) haish... i really hate pp and ps.. takes so much time.. still struggling to learn shoot and terus can "pakai" haha.. easy only... go get 1Ds mark III that gonna come out, 85mm f/1.2L, 70-200 f/2.8L IS....sure you can shoot and terus can pakai one..... joking only..... just make sure all your settings are correct before you shoot..... don`t "sayang" your shutter and forget about doing some test shots first before proper shooting...... |
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Aug 20 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:37 PM) haish... i really hate pp and ps.. takes so much time.. still struggling to learn shoot and terus can "pakai" haha.. So how is your 'struggle' coming? Trial and error is always a good way to learn but you must always ask yourself "What do I want? What kinda image am I trying to create and how I wanna achieve it?" If you take away everything, a camera is nothing but a stupid box, sensitive to light and always waiting for your instruction. Seems to me that HUMANS are the one becoming a stupid box, always asking questions and awaiting to be spoonfed, haha! Do experiment with various functions of your camera and see the results, starting with Aperture Priority, play with various shutter speed and see what it does to your images and so forth. Dun jump into conclusions so early and so easily ... getting to know your camera is only like a baby starting to learn how to chew, not even crawl, walk and run! Professionalism is not how many cameras you have, how many lenses you own, how many events and girls you shoot ... it's how you capture the moment in each and every place you been to, how much you're willing to scarifice to GET that image that makes you stand out among the crowd. |
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Aug 20 2007, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 20 2007, 09:02 PM) So how is your 'struggle' coming? thank you for ur advice there.. yeah... i understand what u mean.. I myself know what i want... the most important part for me, is to take a picture which looks like taken from a dslr. that's the only point of buying a dslr. and i love sharp colours.. really love them.. like what bbtat's(kevin loh) pictures.. his colour of pictures are really nice.. i believe he uses Nikon but i also believe that Canon can have those kind of colours too... haha... Trial and error is always a good way to learn but you must always ask yourself "What do I want? What kinda image am I trying to create and how I wanna achieve it?" If you take away everything, a camera is nothing but a stupid box, sensitive to light and always waiting for your instruction. Seems to me that HUMANS are the one becoming a stupid box, always asking questions and awaiting to be spoonfed, haha! Do experiment with various functions of your camera and see the results, starting with Aperture Priority, play with various shutter speed and see what it does to your images and so forth. Dun jump into conclusions so early and so easily ... getting to know your camera is only like a baby starting to learn how to chew, not even crawl, walk and run! Professionalism is not how many cameras you have, how many lenses you own, how many events and girls you shoot ... it's how you capture the moment in each and every place you been to, how much you're willing to scarifice to GET that image that makes you stand out among the crowd. BTW i dun have my own dslr now... all pictures are shot using my friend's 400D, that's why i cant really get to do trials and error with it, but my 350D is coming soon. haha... getting it next tuesday. got it for RM1900, an offer from Lim Kok Wing. planning to buy a 50mm f1.8 prime lens too.. Is it advicable? haha... i heard that it's a very cheap and good lens. This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 20 2007, 09:25 PM |
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Aug 20 2007, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 09:24 PM) thank you for ur advice there.. yeah... i understand what u mean.. I myself know what i want... the most important part for me, is to take a picture which looks like taken from a dslr. that's the only point of buying a dslr. and i love sharp colours.. really love them.. like what bbtat's(kevin loh) pictures.. his colour of pictures are really nice.. i believe he uses Nikon but i also believe that Canon can have those kind of colours too... haha... If u love taking portraits and play "bokeh" alot then the 50mm lens is a must have. BTW i dun have my own dslr now... all pictures are shot using my friend's 400D, that's why i cant really get to do trials and error with it, but my 350D is coming soon. haha... getting it next tuesday. got it for RM1900, an offer from Lim Kok Wing. planning to buy a 50mm f1.8 prime lens too.. Is it advicable? haha... i heard that it's a very cheap and good lens. |
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Aug 20 2007, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Aug 20 2007, 09:37 PM) If u love taking portraits and play "bokeh" alot then the 50mm lens is a must have. what do u mean by bokeh? and also "grasser"? Yes i do love taking potraits. |
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Aug 20 2007, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 09:56 PM) what do u mean by bokeh? and also "grasser"? bokeh is the effect of blurring the background... you see their series.. most of them the background are blur..... Yes i do love taking potraits. grasser is people who join the shoot but not shooting the model... maybe walking around or shoot the making.. |
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Aug 20 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 20 2007, 10:11 PM) bokeh is the effect of blurring the background... you see their series.. most of them the background are blur..... LOL.. i see i see.. so u did a grasser shot of me that day.. LOL....grasser is people who join the shoot but not shooting the model... maybe walking around or shoot the making.. |
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Aug 20 2007, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 20 2007, 10:23 PM) LOL.. i see i see.. so u did a grasser shot of me that day.. LOL.... i am not grasser.. if you see my thread you will know that well......i am shooting your |
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Aug 21 2007, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 20 2007, 10:37 PM) i am not grasser.. if you see my thread you will know that well...... Lol.. i meant "grasser shot"... haha... i am shooting your  BTW i have read a lot of forums saying that the kit lens which comes with 350D or 400D is not really a good lens. Is this the reason why some of my pics looks so pale and faded? so are there any lens which can replace this lens? hmm... This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 21 2007, 12:10 AM |
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Aug 21 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 21 2007, 12:08 AM) Lol.. i meant "grasser shot"... haha... you must be kidding....BTW i have read a lot of forums saying that the kit lens which comes with 350D or 400D is not really a good lens. Is this the reason why some of my pics looks so pale and faded? so are there any lens which can replace this lens? hmm... my kitlens actually are from 350D.. i brought it 2nd hand one.... |
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Aug 21 2007, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 21 2007, 12:18 AM) you must be kidding.... Im not... coz they said, comparing 350D's kitlens and D40's kitlens, nikon's one is better... >< LoL...my kitlens actually are from 350D.. i brought it 2nd hand one.... BTW snowmei... how was ur exam today? haha.. |
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Aug 21 2007, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 21 2007, 12:53 AM) Im not... coz they said, comparing 350D's kitlens and D40's kitlens, nikon's one is better... >< LoL... ya.. that one i agree.. nikon and canon kitlens.. nikon one are better..BTW snowmei... how was ur exam today? haha.. my exam i can say.. i will see the lecturer next semester.. the problem is the exam only have 1% from textbook while the other 99% can be anywhere..... |
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Aug 21 2007, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 21 2007, 12:56 AM) ya.. that one i agree.. nikon and canon kitlens.. nikon one are better.. wah.. what course are u studying now and where?my exam i can say.. i will see the lecturer next semester.. the problem is the exam only have 1% from textbook while the other 99% can be anywhere..... |
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Aug 21 2007, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 21 2007, 01:01 AM) wah.. what course are u studying now and where? me ah.. studying computer engineering lor.. at informatics... |
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Aug 21 2007, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 21 2007, 01:08 AM) me ah.. studying computer engineering lor.. at informatics... i see i see... all also IT de... hmm.. i think im the only one studying constructions - quantity surveying here.. hahah... |
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Aug 21 2007, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 21 2007, 01:08 AM) me ah.. studying computer engineering lor.. at informatics... Laoo ... I also Informatic graduate |
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Aug 29 2007, 02:14 AM
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So long never post liao... busy with school works.
Just got my 350D today. Went to midvalley, bought 50mm f1.8, HOYA UV filter + HOYA +4 Close Up. So from today onwards, all pictures will be officially from my own dslr. wakakak... Here are some pictures i took at the studio and also with the 50mm f.18 + HOYA +4. C&C about anything are most welcome. Sorry about the sign but it's just posing anyway.. haha.. Light Settings are HIGH KEY, model just cincai la.. haha.. BTW using kitlens for studio shots.   Here are two pictures after i got my 50mm =)  I used a HOYA +4 for this.  ALL sifus remember to comment ooo... TyTy. This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 29 2007, 07:23 AM |
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Aug 29 2007, 02:28 AM
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Explicit gesture, violence and a stoned look ... how to comment?
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Aug 29 2007, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 29 2007, 02:28 AM) Explicit gesture, violence and a stoned look ... how to comment? LOL i think no one ever posted this kind of pic in LYN? haha... comment bout the compo ah.. the angle ah... those basic stuffs ler.. im still new... |
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Aug 29 2007, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Aug 29 2007, 02:28 AM) Explicit gesture, violence and a stoned look ... how to comment? These are the new generation of Malaysians...  |
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Aug 29 2007, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Aug 29 2007, 03:53 AM) These are the new generation of Malaysians... haha.. the first pic is not a malaysian. |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:34 AM
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The third image with the 50mm lens could be a little sharper? Maybe bump up the aperture to above 2 and increase the ISO to compensate for faster shutter speed?
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Aug 29 2007, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 29 2007, 10:34 AM) The third image with the 50mm lens could be a little sharper? Maybe bump up the aperture to above 2 and increase the ISO to compensate for faster shutter speed? i see.. alright.. will try that next time.. thanks. |
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Aug 29 2007, 08:41 PM
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Some more comments from sifu pls... but.. not on the posing and models la.. haha.. the picture.. composition... still learning the basics. tyty..
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Aug 29 2007, 09:27 PM
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Mind share the whole studio set ups ?
I mean those lighting and thingy. *noobie here |
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Aug 29 2007, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Aug 29 2007, 09:27 PM) Mind share the whole studio set ups ? Dun mind at all.. but first comment first a bit ler.. im still a learner in photography.. hehe...I mean those lighting and thingy. *noobie here this is high key which means u dun want any shadow on anywhere on the pic. and 80% colours of the subjects in this setting have to be in bright colour. This is what the lecturer said. LOL. but u can improvise.. OK settings part. White bg Two soft box facing the bg. adjust the angles and the distance so that the whole bg is totally white. one left one right. Two reflectors at the sides of the model. and Model have to be standing in front of the soft boxes. Two soft box in front. One high lever and one low lever. one soft box on the top, angle pointing down(have to be taller than the model.) and one softbox on the bottom, angle pointing up. So that there will be no shadows of the nose or the hair or whatsoever.. This is roughly how the settings are. If u still cant understand. i'll try to draw for u. but im too busy to draw now.. hehe... =) This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 29 2007, 09:56 PM |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:02 PM
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for me the ka pow shot should put the guy in red fully on the frame and not cut his head off...
well he have a long hair.. at least we can see the effect of he get ka pow by another guy... |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Aug 29 2007, 09:55 PM) Dun mind at all.. but first comment first a bit ler.. im still a learner in photography.. hehe... Something like this ?this is high key which means u dun want any shadow on anywhere on the pic. and 80% colours of the subjects in this setting have to be in bright colour. This is what the lecturer said. LOL. but u can improvise.. OK settings part. White bg Two soft box facing the bg. adjust the angles and the distance so that the whole bg is totally white. one left one right. Two reflectors at the sides of the model. and Model have to be standing in front of the soft boxes. Two soft box in front. One high lever and one low lever. one soft box on the top, angle pointing down(have to be taller than the model.) and one softbox on the bottom, angle pointing up. So that there will be no shadows of the nose or the hair or whatsoever.. This is roughly how the settings are. If u still cant understand. i'll try to draw for u. but im too busy to draw now.. hehe... =)  I'm very interested in studio's set-up. |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 29 2007, 10:02 PM) for me the ka pow shot should put the guy in red fully on the frame and not cut his head off... Yeah i noticed that.. haha.. thanks for the C&C, btw how's the greeny ball... hehe.. well he have a long hair.. at least we can see the effect of he get ka pow by another guy... QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Aug 29 2007, 10:13 PM) Something like this ? Here's the set up.I'm very interested in studio's set-up.  Sometimes u might wanna add some lightings just in case ur back ground is too wide.. This is for a 1 person ~ 2 persons high key shoot set up. or maybe 3. up to you. |
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Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM
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the green ball like allien invading your room
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Aug 29 2007, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Aug 29 2007, 10:36 PM) the green ball like allien invading your room haha... wow.. u got it right.. it's my room.. so observant. haha...It's actually a present from my gf. a perfume. hehe..i always wanted to take a picture of my own reflection from something but not the mirror la... coz i saw a pic that really impressed me which is a girl taking a picture of a kettle, and it's was really a shiny one and it reflects the image of the girl taking a pic of the kettle.. the colours was so so nice... hahaha... saw that pic like 5 ~ 7 years ago... |
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Aug 30 2007, 12:39 AM
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hi..derek...
wanna ask u use 50mm with closed-up filter, right? plan to get 1 close up filter oso.. so any auto focusing problem if use the close up filter??or u use manual 1?? i'm oso new to this SLR field thankz.. |
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Aug 30 2007, 01:00 AM
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Yeah.. i used the 50mm with +4close up filter, it has problems(should say it cannot focus far) focusing far. So... i only attach it when i take really close shots of an object. When taking potraits i'll just detach it. as simple as that.
What i did is, i attach the uv filter first, then the Close up filter, so i dun have to detach and reattach everytime.. haha.. |
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Aug 31 2007, 10:34 AM
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Everyone post fireworks... I post merdeka + birthday celebration. haha.... C&C pls. tyty...
Chinese MAT rempit. LOL. First attempt on fill in flash. C & C pls.  Friends  Snooker Dude 1  Snooker Dude 2  Snooker Dude 3  C&C are most welcome...tyty.. This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 1 2007, 12:21 PM |
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Aug 31 2007, 12:04 PM
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snooker pics - i think the white balance not cun. did u use auto WB or set manually? the colour of the table seemed to be reflecting to subject
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Aug 31 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 31 2007, 12:04 PM) snooker pics - i think the white balance not cun. did u use auto WB or set manually? the colour of the table seemed to be reflecting to subject WB using AWB. but it's kinda hard... coz his hand is under the light, and his face area has very dim light.. so... i think that's why his hand getss overexposure.. if the whole place is bright.. then it wont look reflecting... AM i right si fus?This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 21 2007, 02:01 PM |
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Aug 31 2007, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 31 2007, 12:04 PM) snooker pics - i think the white balance not cun. did u use auto WB or set manually? the colour of the table seemed to be reflecting to subject that is pool lar... i myself watch a lot of cue action in video and in real life...i see the pros take photo from a straight angle..and if your friends could go lower you can get a very "pro" look of the player...just my opinion... |
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Aug 31 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Aug 31 2007, 06:19 PM) that is pool lar... LOL... shh... coz they are not pros... mind u... the one who knows is shooting. i myself watch a lot of cue action in video and in real life...i see the pros take photo from a straight angle..and if your friends could go lower you can get a very "pro" look of the player...just my opinion... and they dun aim and shoot, once they touch down they shoot.. i was like ... so i just point and shoot.. LOL.... in other words, distracting them to get my photos...This post has been edited by derek87: Aug 31 2007, 06:35 PM |
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Aug 31 2007, 06:52 PM
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okok...but do try what i mentioned if got chance...effect different... |
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Aug 31 2007, 07:01 PM
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yeah will try... but i dun really get what u mean by straight angle. LOL.. any examples?
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Aug 31 2007, 07:36 PM
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er...sorry for my poor skills in expressing my thoughts...i mean erm..shoot from front... and must be parallel to the cue..then it shoud look nicer...my 2 sen..
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I think the snooker dude 1 picture is overexposed with the highlights overblown on the hand. For the 2nd picture, the image looks rather soft. Perhaps you could increase your F stop a bit and then increase your ISO to compensate for the shutter speed.
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Sep 1 2007, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 31 2007, 11:58 PM) I think the snooker dude 1 picture is overexposed with the highlights overblown on the hand. For the 2nd picture, the image looks rather soft. Perhaps you could increase your F stop a bit and then increase your ISO to compensate for the shutter speed. I wanna ask in this case.. what can i do if i want to expose the snooker guy's face but the lights are only shining on the table and the hand, and not the face.. and lights at the face area is very dim... thank youAs for the soft pic u mentioned, the highest ISO i will go is only 400.. i will always try not to go over 400 as there will be noise. And i was adviced by a professional photographer not to go over 400 if it's necessary.. haha.. but i will still try alternate ways next time. And yes, all pics are taken with 50mm prime lens. |
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Sep 1 2007, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 1 2007, 12:19 PM) I wanna ask in this case.. what can i do if i want to expose the snooker guy's face but the lights are only shining on the table and the hand, and not the face.. and lights at the face area is very dim... thank you Better to recompose the image so that the light reflecting off the ball doesn't overexpose when shooting the shot. Perhaps take the shot in a way that the light shines the ball rather than overexpose it directly. If need be then PP needs to be done to try to hide the over exposure. As for the soft pic u mentioned, the highest ISO i will go is only 400.. i will always try not to go over 400 as there will be noise. And i was adviced by a professional photographer not to go over 400 if it's necessary.. haha.. but i will still try alternate ways next time. And yes, all pics are taken with 50mm prime lens. Also if you really want to get the face in such a low light situation then you would definitely need to use a flash if you don't want to go above ISO400. Just my two cents worth. |
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Sep 1 2007, 06:16 PM
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Alright thanks for taking time for the advice.. i will try fill in flash next time... but im afraid if i use flash. the ball will be still overexposed due to the flash? will it be? haha...
and also one more thing.. what if im in a snooker competition situation.. im not allowed to use flash... that will be hard.. haha... This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 1 2007, 10:02 PM |
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Sep 1 2007, 09:13 PM
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derek87,
before that i am like you.. really scare of noise.... well because of that i get a lot of blur photo..... with 350D you have... i think is ok to go up to ISO 800..... but me myself very less go over ISO 800 as the photo will become grainy..... |
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Sep 1 2007, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Sep 1 2007, 09:13 PM) derek87, OH yes... More than ISO800 it's very grainy.. even 800 itselves... i crop a small part and compare to ISO100.. the details has lost around 10%, not that sharp.. (comparing to perfectly handled camera pictures)before that i am like you.. really scare of noise.... well because of that i get a lot of blur photo..... with 350D you have... i think is ok to go up to ISO 800..... but me myself very less go over ISO 800 as the photo will become grainy..... Snowmei, teach me a little bit about fill in flash le... I know that u have to use fill in flash when the light source comes from the background rite? What i am doing is, meter the background adjust exposure compensation to 0 then about the flash part.... the motorbike pic i used -1 for the flash... is what im doing correct? and WHAT IF i need to use a very low shutter speed to get Exposure compensation 0 for the background? any other way for this situation? and one more Q, how to take a pic by using and adjusting the flash so that the skin tone will not look like reflecting? hmmm..... |
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Sep 1 2007, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 1 2007, 10:19 PM) OH yes... More than ISO800 it's very grainy.. even 800 itselves... i crop a small part and compare to ISO100.. the details has lost around 10%, not that sharp.. (comparing to perfectly handled camera pictures) i very less go over ISO 800... Snowmei, teach me a little bit about fill in flash le... I know that u have to use fill in flash when the light source comes from the background rite? What i am doing is, meter the background adjust exposure compensation to 0 then about the flash part.... the motorbike pic i used -1 for the flash... is what im doing correct? and WHAT IF i need to use a very low shutter speed to get Exposure compensation 0 for the background? any other way for this situation? and one more Q, how to take a pic by using and adjusting the flash so that the skin tone will not look like reflecting? hmmm..... about the fill in flash... my way is meter background and lock it with AE button... then shoot one shot as testing to adjust the flash compensation... something like yours.... about low shutter speed.. try use 2nd curtain... for me if it requires me using very slow shutter i will just ignore the background  about the last question.. if you using internal flash.. no way you can avoid the harshness .... (forgot that you can use diffuser it will definately help to reduce the harshness) unless you use external flash gun... you can always tilt the angle of your flash... |
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Sep 1 2007, 10:45 PM
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er...ok i noob noob but i try answer PART of your question...hehe...if you wanna compensate for the exposure try smaller f number...i think about f10-13 should be alright for motorbike pic... if still cant then try jack up to iso400 coz you said 800 will be very grainy... your last question ar... either get an external flash then use a diffuser or bounce of the flash from the ceiling...hope it helps...
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Sep 2 2007, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Sep 1 2007, 10:35 PM) i very less go over ISO 800... Lol... i will definitely do the same thing.. just ignore the bg. about the fill in flash... my way is meter background and lock it with AE button... then shoot one shot as testing to adjust the flash compensation... something like yours.... about low shutter speed.. try use 2nd curtain... for me if it requires me using very slow shutter i will just ignore the background about the last question.. if you using internal flash.. no way you can avoid the harshness .... (forgot that you can use diffuser it will definately help to reduce the harshness) unless you use external flash gun... you can always tilt the angle of your flash... Hey have u heard of any diffuser for pop up flash? LOL.... p/s: Maybe u are thinking.. pop up flash already not bright enough, still want to diffuse it, sotz... QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 1 2007, 10:45 PM) er...ok i noob noob but i try answer PART of your question...hehe...if you wanna compensate for the exposure try smaller f number...i think about f10-13 should be alright for motorbike pic... if still cant then try jack up to iso400 coz you said 800 will be very grainy... your last question ar... either get an external flash then use a diffuser or bounce of the flash from the ceiling...hope it helps... Orenzai.. thanks for taking time to answer my questions.. but i think u din read the question carefully or maybe i din state carefully... what i mean is even if im using f1.8 and iso 400. metering the bg still requires me a, let's say, 1/8 shutter speed which will be very slow and often gets me a blur pic, are there any other ways to avoid this.. it's not that i want slow shutter speed, it's that i want to avoid it... above 1/20 and yet capturing the bg will be the best solution. I guess the only option is getting a speedlite 430. LoL...About the external flash, diffuser and bounce trick(which is hard). Yeah.. it will definitely help. but... u can only learn those tricks by getting one of those or borrow one from somebody.. haha... but too bad.. i wont be needing it until i master my basics.. LOL... plus... i really have to get a vertical/battery grip before getting one of the external, or else.. flash 5 times.. habis wayang.. LOL...jkjk.  |
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Sep 2 2007, 05:25 AM
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derek87,
i heard about the diffuser before.. but mostly are DIY one. rarely see people sell diffuser for internal flash.... easiest is to take 2 tissue paper and wrap the flash... |
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Sep 3 2007, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Sep 2 2007, 05:25 AM) derek87, Lol.. i tried it... it helps.. but it looks ugly wrapping ur pop up flash up with tissue. LoL...i heard about the diffuser before.. but mostly are DIY one. rarely see people sell diffuser for internal flash.... easiest is to take 2 tissue paper and wrap the flash... Ok.. here are two photos of sunway. choose.. which one u guys prefer... C&C are most welcome... Earlier of Sunway  Later of Sunway  Thanks for viewing. |
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Sep 3 2007, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 3 2007, 02:12 AM) Lol.. i tried it... it helps.. but it looks ugly wrapping ur pop up flash up with tissue. LoL... DIY. As long as it gets the job done, who cares if it's ugly. |
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Sep 3 2007, 03:15 AM
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omg... u snapped my gf's pic... the 7th pix first girl from left... not bad.... she more in good looking in real life... ^^
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Sep 3 2007, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE(skarn @ Sep 3 2007, 03:01 AM) DIY. As long as it gets the job done, who cares if it's ugly. Haha... not convenient lo... haha...QUOTE(saddient @ Sep 3 2007, 03:15 AM) omg... u snapped my gf's pic... the 7th pix first girl from left... not bad.... she more in good looking in real life... ^^ Huh? which pic are u mentioning? the name? |
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Sep 3 2007, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 3 2007, 04:24 AM) Haha... not convenient lo... haha... i think he referring to the first page.. 6th photo... the girl in green shirt.. (not the showgirl.. the background girl actually Huh? which pic are u mentioning? the name? )7th photo the first girl from the left is a female wearing tudung back facing the camera.. don`t think is that one gua..... |
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Sep 3 2007, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 2 2007, 04:52 AM) Orenzai.. thanks for taking time to answer my questions.. but i think u din read the question carefully or maybe i din state carefully... what i mean is even if im using f1.8 and iso 400. metering the bg still requires me a, let's say, 1/8 shutter speed which will be very slow and often gets me a blur pic, are there any other ways to avoid this.. it's not that i want slow shutter speed, it's that i want to avoid it... above 1/20 and yet capturing the bg will be the best solution. I guess the only option is getting a speedlite 430. LoL... About the external flash, diffuser and bounce trick(which is hard). Yeah.. it will definitely help. but... u can only learn those tricks by getting one of those or borrow one from somebody.. haha... but too bad.. i wont be needing it until i master my basics.. LOL... plus... i really have to get a vertical/battery grip before getting one of the external, or else.. flash 5 times.. habis wayang.. LOL...jkjk. |
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Sep 3 2007, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(snowmei @ Sep 3 2007, 05:56 AM) i think he referring to the first page.. 6th photo... the girl in green shirt.. (not the showgirl.. the background girl actually ooh i see.. I thought he was mentioning cherry.. hehe.. )7th photo the first girl from the left is a female wearing tudung back facing the camera.. don`t think is that one gua..... snowmei.. which one u prefer ah... the sunway pic... QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 3 2007, 06:22 AM) haha...if that is the case...easy lar...take ten minutes of your precious time and PS it...thats what i do when the exposure not jun...haha... how bout u orenzai... choose which pic u prefer...This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 3 2007, 04:02 PM |
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Sep 3 2007, 05:51 PM
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Post #143
wow...i never know tat we can actually see kl tower or klcc from btw, i prefer the later version hehe |
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Sep 3 2007, 06:19 PM
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I like the first one instead, I am a sucker for nice blue skies!
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Sep 4 2007, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE(zeroexz @ Sep 3 2007, 05:51 PM) Post #143 haha.. i see..wow...i never know tat we can actually see kl tower or klcc from btw, i prefer the later version hehe QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 3 2007, 06:19 PM) I like the first one instead, I am a sucker for nice blue skies! First one.. hmmm...I can see different ppl has different taste.. hmm... anyone more? please choose.. and do C&C pls... still a beginner here... |
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Sep 4 2007, 06:21 AM
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i chose the second one because the sky cannot be too bright. If its too bright then the lights will not glow and give a nice effect on the building...
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Sep 4 2007, 06:36 AM
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i am
if you really wanna me to select one from it.. i prefer 2nd one.. but i think you use wrong aperture.. should go f/16.... |
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Sep 4 2007, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(orenzai @ Sep 4 2007, 06:21 AM) i chose the second one because the sky cannot be too bright. If its too bright then the lights will not glow and give a nice effect on the building... Orenzai.. actually i shot that first pic only 15 mins earlier than the later pic... the blue sky was not actually this blue... it's PS de... haha...QUOTE(snowmei @ Sep 4 2007, 06:36 AM) i am Snowmei ah... why f/16 leh? got more light trails? stars?if you really wanna me to select one from it.. i prefer 2nd one.. but i think you use wrong aperture.. should go f/16.... |
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Sep 4 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 4 2007, 06:41 AM) Snowmei ah... why f/16 leh? got more light trails? stars? F/16 to get an overall sharp focus on the entire picture. Usually used when taking landscape especially a field of flowers so that all of the flowers are in focus |
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Sep 4 2007, 11:21 AM
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first page.... her name is Karen
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Sep 5 2007, 04:44 AM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 4 2007, 11:14 AM) F/16 to get an overall sharp focus on the entire picture. Usually used when taking landscape especially a field of flowers so that all of the flowers are in focus i see i see... hehe... thanks for the advice...This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 5 2007, 04:44 AM |
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Sep 5 2007, 05:04 AM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 4 2007, 11:14 AM) F/16 to get an overall sharp focus on the entire picture. Usually used when taking landscape especially a field of flowers so that all of the flowers are in focus Overall sharpness produced by a lens is dependent on its construction. The best is to refer to the MTF Chart of the lens. Controlling the aperture only controls the DOF and not the sharpness of a taken picture. |
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Sep 5 2007, 05:07 AM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Sep 5 2007, 05:04 AM) Overall sharpness produced by a lens is dependent on its construction. The best is to refer to the MTF Chart of the lens. Controlling the aperture only controls the DOF and not the sharpness of a taken picture. "MTF chart?" where can i get it? so compmac.. How do i get the sharpest pic? hmm... focus properly? hehe... so are my pictures sharp enough? hmm.. lotsa confusion here..This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 5 2007, 05:07 AM |
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Sep 5 2007, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 5 2007, 05:07 AM) "MTF chart?" where can i get it? so compmac.. How do i get the sharpest pic? hmm... focus properly? hehe... so are my pictures sharp enough? hmm.. lotsa confusion here.. MTF chart you can get it from the lens company website... |
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Sep 5 2007, 05:41 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 5 2007, 05:07 AM) "MTF chart?" where can i get it? so compmac.. How do i get the sharpest pic? hmm... focus properly? hehe... so are my pictures sharp enough? hmm.. lotsa confusion here.. The best is to look for this information from the lens manufacturer's website.Examples: Olympus ZD 50mm f2 Macro http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/...0_20M/index.asp Sigma 150mm f2.8 Macro http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/lenses/macro/150mm.htm Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8 VR http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/le...8g_if/index.htm |
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Sep 5 2007, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Sep 5 2007, 05:41 AM) The best is to look for this information from the lens manufacturer's website. oohh.. thank you so much for that info.. but how do i read the MTF chart.. a bit confuse..Examples: Olympus ZD 50mm f2 Macro http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/...0_20M/index.asp Sigma 150mm f2.8 Macro http://www.sigma-imaging-uk.com/lenses/macro/150mm.htm Nikkor 70-200mm f2.8 VR http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/le...8g_if/index.htm |
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Sep 5 2007, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 5 2007, 07:56 PM) oohh.. thank you so much for that info.. but how do i read the MTF chart.. a bit confuse.. Check the Sigma website that I had given you. There is a link on the MTF Chart which shows you how to read it. |
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Sep 17 2007, 09:23 AM
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Have been away for almost 2 weeks.. WHY?! coz i had my exams!! >< wow.. 2 weeks of tireness... >< cant even have the energy to hold my camera now!! lol... GOOD NEWS is, today's my last paper... after 4pm, i'll be as free as a bird! I'll be taking photos at a studio tomolo... will post them once i got them! stay tune!! !!!! =D XD XD XD
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Sep 20 2007, 04:14 AM
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Ahh... Here are some photos... Theme is Product shooting.. My first attempt. Product was not my choice, just assigned to shoot... here it is..
#1  #2  #3  C&C pls.. thank you.. This post has been edited by derek87: Sep 20 2007, 07:47 AM |
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Sep 20 2007, 10:32 AM
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The products are a little blur and usually when product shoots, the product you are shooting needs to be crystal clear.
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Sep 20 2007, 11:02 AM
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#1 - focus not sharp enough, probably DOF too shallow
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Sep 20 2007, 11:10 AM
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What was the aperture setting for this shot? I usually use around f13 when shooting products.
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Sep 20 2007, 04:28 PM
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As for the first pic. i purposely wanted the others to be blur.. and only focus the heart...
The other two... what was in my mind was. focus on the bottle and give the ribbons front and back a little of bokeh... I din know product shooting have to be a whole pic clear shoot. Hmm.. perhaps i should change my style... =) All are using F/8. |
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Sep 20 2007, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 20 2007, 04:28 PM) As for the first pic. i purposely wanted the others to be blur.. and only focus the heart... but i feel that the heart is not sharp enough |
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Sep 21 2007, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 20 2007, 07:09 PM) but i feel that the heart is not sharp enough back one or front one... gear was 50mm +4 close up |
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Sep 21 2007, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 20 2007, 07:09 PM) but i feel that the heart is not sharp enough It's indeed not sharp, at least on my monitor. I think this is due to: 1) The close up filter, and 2) Jpeg resizing.You shall have USM the photo before posting this up. I know you want to play with selective focusing, but if more than 80% of the composition is out of focus, it looks bad. Unless it's a uniform bokeh. This post has been edited by kelvinyam: Sep 21 2007, 07:46 AM |
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Sep 21 2007, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(kelvinyam @ Sep 21 2007, 07:46 AM) It's indeed not sharp, at least on my monitor. I think this is due to: 1) The close up filter, and 2) Jpeg resizing. Thanks for the advice... BTW, what does "USM the photo" mean?You shall have USM the photo before posting this up. I know you want to play with selective focusing, but if more than 80% of the composition is out of focus, it looks bad. Unless it's a uniform bokeh. |
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Sep 21 2007, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 21 2007, 11:10 AM) Thanks for the advice... BTW, what does "USM the photo" mean? USM... ultrasonic motor ... no lah.. the USM = UnSharp Mask... |
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Sep 21 2007, 12:32 PM
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Its a photoshop/elements/cameraRAW technique to sharpen the photo
 Try Googling it and you will get plenty of results |
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Sep 21 2007, 12:35 PM
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+4 closeup... the DOF is very very shallow... have to be quick when you recompose the pic... if not... you will see that your SHARP focused area "move"
I played with closeup filters before... They are wonderful.... but, recomposing pics is pain and need to be FAST and precise. good try... |
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Sep 21 2007, 12:43 PM
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Ok here it is.. USM done with the photo... i see a little bit difference, what do u guys think?
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Sep 21 2007, 12:45 PM
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Well I can see the heart is sharp but in product photography, you shouldnt just concentrate on one part of the entire object. Since one heart is sharp and the other is blur, the background would then be considered very distracting.
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Sep 21 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Sep 21 2007, 05:32 AM) back one or front one... the front one.gear was 50mm +4 close up also probably due to 'distraction' since there's another heart in the back |
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Sep 21 2007, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Sep 21 2007, 12:45 PM) Well I can see the heart is sharp but in product photography, you shouldnt just concentrate on one part of the entire object. Since one heart is sharp and the other is blur, the background would then be considered very distracting. Yeah.. Mavik.. i get what it means when it comes to product shooting. The message of the picture have to be, "Nah! this is our product! have a look." Therefore, the whole product have to be super sharp and not a single bokeh on the product. At that time.. i was too bored, so i tried to put in some creativity to use macro style on the product. Hehe.. din know it turned out this bad.. Haha.. really gotta learn how to control bokeh on photos.. QUOTE(soulfly @ Sep 21 2007, 01:53 PM) the front one. Alrite.. got it!!!also probably due to 'distraction' since there's another heart in the back |
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Oct 3 2007, 12:46 PM
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There was one day, i accompany my dad and mum to shopping malls, so i decided to bring my camera along to shoot if there are events going on. Unfortunately, there were no events.. After that we went to chill out at coffee bean.. Besides, dad and mum, i had someone else followed me too.. So here the photography session begins.
SO C&C on anything pls...!! THANKS SO MUCH! If u wonder why 2 pics only? coz others are pictures of my parents. haha.. if u want me to introduce them too, please let me know! LoL... But first introduce yours to me first, by posting ur parent's pic here too.. =p Introducing.... Ma Soulmate! This pic was taken using fill in flash technique.  This was taken without flash.  AND here's a bunch of my study companion's pic. MY HAMSTER! CINNO!! Taking a picture of him was hard.. He's running everywhere he can.. had a hard time taking pictures of him... too fast... When i shoot, i move my camera faster than trying pan a moving car... >< need tips and advices on panning thou. Anyone knows? Anyway, C&C too pls... thanks a lot.. Meet Cinno.  Crawling In The Dark.  What y'all looking at?  Anything down there? (He was actually running towards that side)  Some Action going on.  Please do not hesitate to comment, i'll accept both negative and positive. =) Your comments doesnt poke, they help me improve. THANKS. This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 3 2007, 01:55 PM |
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Oct 3 2007, 01:05 PM
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I dont sure whether to say this but i felt nothing special on the portrait pics. Even a normal P&S or camera phone can do that. Maybe just i not an animal lover.
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Oct 3 2007, 01:24 PM
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Me too.... the pics look like just another casual pics....nothing too special.
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Oct 3 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 3 2007, 01:05 PM) I dont sure whether to say this but i felt nothing special on the portrait pics. Even a normal P&S or camera phone can do that. Maybe just i not an animal lover. U mean potrait pics of the hamster or my gf?QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 3 2007, 01:24 PM) Me too.... the pics look like just another casual pics....nothing too special. yeah i agree with you too.. i feel there's something lacking.. I just dunno what it is.. Except for the 3rd hamster pic, that might tell something....but still lacking of something. Im not good at taking pictures which needs fast brainstorming camera knowledge.. like deciding the right aperture and shutter speed in 1 or 2 secs ... There are a lot of moments of the hamster which is great to shoot and will turn out to be a great picture, but once i point and tries to compose the pic, the moment is gone... he ran to somewhere.. im talking about in terms of 1 sec ~ 2 sec reaction of u shooting it. He just doesnt stand still, not like a dog or a rabbit or something else.. Anyway, any advice or tips on how to improve? This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 3 2007, 01:54 PM |
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Oct 3 2007, 03:11 PM
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try to apply the rules of third for your composition, and also depth of field. also experiment with different angles and framing
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Oct 3 2007, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 3 2007, 03:11 PM) try to apply the rules of third for your composition, and also depth of field. also experiment with different angles and framing rules of third? u are trying to mean that 4 boxes in a frame? DOF? my gf's pic use kitlens, minor DOF can be put in.Hey, im a bit confused here la... which picture is bad in composition... be specific... i really want to improve... for me i think my gf's pic 2 is bad, because i did not control the BG's light well, her cap has over exposure and i psed to save it a lil , or.. at that situation i really need to use fill in flash to get a good picture ? i was shooting two same pics using different techniques to see the difference. So which one turn out better?as for the hamster, pic 3 is bad because i feel there's lack of something. pic 4 is bad because of wrong shutter speed, and i did not want to use flash to freeze the object, i was wanting a to see movement in the picture.. that was what im trying to do... all pics tells a story, Pic 1 - Introduction la... let u guys see the real face of my hamster mah... Pic 2 - Hamsters are similar to rats, mice. So they do... crawl in the dark.. Just like a stalker, did u notice the right hand lifted by the hamster? Dont u think he's like stalking silently to steal food or whatever... perhaps the background and place i chose to shoot makes the picture look rather normal. Sometimes you really need to look at a picture long enough to tell what's the story behind and understand the situation when taking that particular picture, whether it's a planned situation ( means u still have time to do trials and errors,for eg studio photography ) or it's a happening situation ( means u only have one shot which takes it all, if u missed it, it's gone forever). apply rules of third, dof, try diff angles.... i always see the same comment in other threads but very little constructive advices. If u have asked me who gives the best advices and tips, i would say compmac, snowmei, goldfries, shinchan, ac98 , mavik and there are somemore i couldnt remember their names. Looking on the surface only, they look like casual forumers which post forums and chit chat about their pictures and other ppl's pictures. But when u really go in to depth asking them serious questions, they will try their very best to answer your question and to make u clear about things u do not know. Especially compmac, most of the time i see him posting constructive advices on how to understand photography. Come on ppl this is a forum, the reason of posting pictures here is to share... share ur ideas... share ur techniques, share ur knowledge.... share everything u've got in mind. Help others, dont just leave them with their unsolved confusion.. So i think this is what i wanna spit out... Thanks. |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:15 PM) apply rules of third, dof, try diff angles.... i always see the same comment in other threads but very little constructive advices. If u have asked me who gives the best advices and tips, i would say compmac, snowmei, goldfries, shinchan, ac98 , mavik and there are somemore i couldnt remember their names. Looking on the surface only, they look like casual forumers which post forums and chit chat about their pictures and other ppl's pictures. But when u really go in to depth asking them serious questions, they will try their very best to answer your question and to make u clear about things u do not know. Especially compmac, most of the time i see him posting constructive advices on how to understand photography. Come on ppl this is a forum, the reason of posting pictures here is to share... share ur ideas... share ur techniques, share ur knowledge.... share everything u've got in mind. Help others, dont just leave them with their unsolved confusion.. Hmm unfortunatelly not everyone is free to spend their time to judge. Dont forget some of the photographer spend their "snake time" or lunch time to see the pics and post the comments if necessery. I consider myself not that good in commenting pics as i am still new but i do really try my best on giving comments. Constructive or not, in life, not everyone is kind enough to give you good/constructive advise. You yrself have to work hard to think what went wrong and how to improve it.So i think this is what i wanna spit out... Thanks. On ur portrait of ur gf, i just wanted to say that such pic can be taken using a normal p&s camera or even a cam phone, so i dont see a value of what sort of a "difference" can a DSLR will make on that pic. But most importantly, that is just a casual pic. I dont see the value of u putting that pic to allow other ppl to make comment of it (ppl might take it as a wrong reason, provided ur gf is rose chin/hannah tan ). You dont need a DSLR or good photography skills to take such pics.Unless if u dare enough to take her into a park/beach/old buildings/scenery and take pics of her blending with the environment, then i can only see how you use ur photography skills. I will not make any comment on the hamster pics, although i believe u can do better. |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:40 PM
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Here comes some of my constructive comments.
GF pic #1 Framing is OK. DOF also good enough but you seem to have focused on her cap and the coffee bean logo instead of her face. From what I see, you should be using the internal flash and has caused a harsh shadows especially due to her left hand. It also darkens the background too much and caused overall underexposure. An external bounced flash shot would be a better solution. Since you have buffer from the shutter speed, you can reduce the ISO to get a cleaner picture. GF pic #2 The picture suffered from blown out background and blurriness due to slow shutter speed. I guess you have already notice that. Always remember the 1/focal length shutter speed rule if you don't have IS lens. Some people with steady hands can go up to 1 stop below that rule and still take sharp pictures. Hamster pics Nice of you to post your hamster pictures. I used to keep a few myself about 10 years ago. Sure brought back memories. The best of the crop is the third one. It would be better to rotate the picture 90 degree clockwise. It would also help if you have taken the picture at an angle more to your right so that you can face the hamster front on. Nice control of ISO and shutter speed. I don't have comments on the rest as they are not that good IMO. Hope I'm not too long winded with my 2 sen. |
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Oct 3 2007, 04:57 PM
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comment on hamster
no.1 err... actually no point shooting like that. no.2 for me is ok.. i also shoot my hamster something similar to you but not using flash.... but shoot with flash will get like "YOU GET SPOTTED!!" feel... no.3,4,5 use rule of thirds.. no.4 actually you should try another way... as the hamster don`t potray anything intresting down there... she/he just wanna get down only or fall down.... |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 3 2007, 04:30 PM) Hmm unfortunatelly not everyone is free to spend their time to judge. Dont forget some of the photographer spend their "snake time" or lunch time to see the pics and post the comments if necessery. I consider myself not that good in commenting pics as i am still new but i do really try my best on giving comments. Constructive or not, in life, not everyone is kind enough to give you good/constructive advise. You yrself have to work hard to think what went wrong and how to improve it. Yes of course in life. But im sure everyone who post their pictures here is to hope for ideas and advices from others to improve right? Yeah, and i understand in real life there's no more spoon feeding like what we were in kids' age. You really have to make the step urself to improve what u are doing. That's why im typing such a long reply to share my thoughts of what to think before giving out a comment. Comments means a lot to begginners. Learning is never ending, So is photography, you will never finish shooting. I could even do something like shooting the same thing again and again, with hundreds of different ways to get the best out of it. On ur portrait of ur gf, i just wanted to say that such pic can be taken using a normal p&s camera or even a cam phone, so i dont see a value of what sort of a "difference" can a DSLR will make on that pic. But most importantly, that is just a casual pic. I dont see the value of u putting that pic to allow other ppl to make comment of it (ppl might take it as a wrong reason, provided ur gf is rose chin/hannah tan ). You dont need a DSLR or good photography skills to take such pics.Unless if u dare enough to take her into a park/beach/old buildings/scenery and take pics of her blending with the environment, then i can only see how you use ur photography skills. I will not make any comment on the hamster pics, although i believe u can do better. SO and again, u got it all wrong, the purpose of posting my gf's pic is to let u guys determine which technique is the best to use in a situation like that. Im sure you will also use ur camera to shoot ur family which are not celebs, ur camera is not only for shooting models right? So when it comes to times like that, what's the point of having a CAMERA not mentioning dslr, when u cant capture the best picture of ur family on casual outings while u can only capture great pictures of model posing for you to shoot while u can do a lot of trials and errors because they are posing for you to shoot, bear in mind. Anyway, im still in a learning stage, this is why i post normal human being's picture to learn more and to be more mature in photography before i go on a special photography planned session with a model. Either a female or a male model, i do not want them to be dissappointed of my photography skills after posing for a day. And yes, im planning to take her into parks, beaches, scenery to take pictures, and it's because i want to learn to utilize with whatever photogear u have in different situation/environment. Anyway, travis, u were my first inspiration in photography, because ur gallery was the first gallery i browsed taking pictures with dslr. Not only u inspired me, others too.. i dun need to mention their name. You guys know who. And thanks for taking your time venturing in my gallery, trying ur best to give both negative and positive comments which sometimes helped me.QUOTE(CompMac @ Oct 3 2007, 04:40 PM) Here comes some of my constructive comments. Yeah compmac, if u didnt mentioned it, i wont realize the cap, the logo, and the iso. I remember i focused on the eye then compose the pic. but why did it turned out to be cap and logo focused. GF pic #1 Framing is OK. DOF also good enough but you seem to have focused on her cap and the coffee bean logo instead of her face. From what I see, you should be using the internal flash and has caused a harsh shadows especially due to her left hand. It also darkens the background too much and caused overall underexposure. An external bounced flash shot would be a better solution. Since you have buffer from the shutter speed, you can reduce the ISO to get a cleaner picture. GF pic #2 The picture suffered from blown out background and blurriness due to slow shutter speed. I guess you have already notice that. Always remember the 1/focal length shutter speed rule if you don't have IS lens. Some people with steady hands can go up to 1 stop below that rule and still take sharp pictures. Hamster pics Nice of you to post your hamster pictures. I used to keep a few myself about 10 years ago. Sure brought back memories. The best of the crop is the third one. It would be better to rotate the picture 90 degree clockwise. It would also help if you have taken the picture at an angle more to your right so that you can face the hamster front on. Nice control of ISO and shutter speed. I don't have comments on the rest as they are not that good IMO. Hope I'm not too long winded with my 2 sen. Thanks anyway, i will try again next time.About the GFpic2, when it comes to situation like that, while the cap covering light entering the face area, and having a bright BG, making it hard to control the light. Is it a must to use fill in flash? I think it's impossible to keep the BG from blowing out and yet to correctly expose the face right? Thanks, i learn something new today. 1/focallength for shutter speed if i dun have steady hands. i didnt know that. Glad that my hamster pics brought u memory flashbacks. Added on October 3, 2007, 5:31 pm QUOTE(snowmei @ Oct 3 2007, 04:57 PM) comment on hamster Yeah you are right. no.4, he only wants to escape from me taking pictures of him.. Haish.. and i can only use one hand to snap while holding the camera, coz i have to keep catching him, place him back then shoot again. He is friggin fast.. no.1 err... actually no point shooting like that. no.2 for me is ok.. i also shoot my hamster something similar to you but not using flash.... but shoot with flash will get like "YOU GET SPOTTED!!" feel... no.3,4,5 use rule of thirds.. no.4 actually you should try another way... as the hamster don`t potray anything intresting down there... she/he just wanna get down only or fall down.... This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 3 2007, 05:31 PM |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:27 PM) Yeah compmac, if u didnt mentioned it, i wont realize the cap, the logo, and the iso. I remember i focused on the eye then compose the pic. but why did it turned out to be cap and logo focused. Do have steady hands when you recompose a picture. You will easily shift focus when you do it with shallow DOF. Try not to breath when recomposing and when pressing the shutter. Thanks anyway, i will try again next time.About the GFpic2, when it comes to situation like that, while the cap covering light entering the face area, and having a bright BG, making it hard to control the light. Is it a must to use fill in flash? I think it's impossible to keep the BG from blowing out and yet to correctly expose the face right? Thanks, i learn something new today. 1/focallength for shutter speed if i dun have steady hands. i didnt know that. Glad that my hamster pics brought u memory flashbacks. Added on October 3, 2007, 5:31 pm Yeah you are right. no.4, he only wants to escape from me taking pictures of him.. Haish.. and i can only use one hand to snap while holding the camera, coz i have to keep catching him, place him back then shoot again. He is friggin fast.. For bright background pictures, meter the background to properly expose it. Then use fill flash to brighten up the darken areas. I still haven't master this technique with my camera even when using an external flash. Good to know that I have helped you out. Happy shooting! |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:27 PM) Yes of course in life. But im sure everyone who post their pictures here is to hope for ideas and advices from others to improve right? Yeah, and i understand in real life there's no more spoon feeding like what we were in kids' age. You really have to make the step urself to improve what u are doing. That's why im typing such a long reply to share my thoughts of what to think before giving out a comment. Comments means a lot to begginners. Learning is never ending, So is photography, you will never finish shooting. I could even do something like shooting the same thing again and again, with hundreds of different ways to get the best out of it. Good spirit. I like it! QUOTE SO and again, u got it all wrong, the purpose of posting my gf's pic is to let u guys determine which technique is the best to use in a situation like that. Im sure you will also use ur camera to shoot ur family which are not celebs, ur camera is not only for shooting models right? Ops my mistake. Perhaps if u mentioned pls comment in terms of lighting, then i might get a picture. You may want to consider a speedlight and try bounce flash. The flash will not looked hash on the face. Get the diffuser so the skin will look more smooth. So when it comes to times like that, what's the point of having a CAMERA not mentioning dslr, when u cant capture the best picture of ur family on casual outings while u can only capture great pictures of model posing for you to shoot while u can do a lot of trials and errors because they are posing for you to shoot, bear in mind. Anyway, im still in a learning stage, this is why i post normal human being's picture to learn more and to be more mature in photography before i go on a special photography planned session with a model. Either a female or a male model, i do not want them to be dissappointed of my photography skills after posing for a day. And yes, im planning to take her into parks, beaches, scenery to take pictures, and it's because i want to learn to utilize with whatever photogear u have in different situation/environment. Good luck mate. Hope to see some quality pics from u. Learnt frm shinchan, ah leong n ac98 on that. They will give u really good examples. QUOTE Anyway, travis, u were my first inspiration in photography, because ur gallery was the first gallery i browsed taking pictures with dslr. Wow i am surprised and touched! Just to let u know on my page my pics on the earlier pages were pretty bad, i admitted it. But thanks to all the feedbacks i got here and i learnt from these guys, at least i manage some improvement although i still have a long way to go. You will never know u can do better than me or the some of them here! Not only u inspired me, others too.. i dun need to mention their name. You guys know who. And thanks for taking your time venturing in my gallery, trying ur best to give both negative and positive comments which sometimes helped me.This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Oct 3 2007, 05:42 PM |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Oct 3 2007, 05:36 PM) Do have steady hands when you recompose a picture. You will easily shift focus when you do it with shallow DOF. Try not to breath when recomposing and when pressing the shutter. Alrighties! got it, that's what im doing for the first pic. Fill in flash is the way to go. Thanks!For bright background pictures, meter the background to properly expose it. Then use fill flash to brighten up the darken areas. I still haven't master this technique with my camera even when using an external flash. Good to know that I have helped you out. Happy shooting! |
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Oct 3 2007, 05:44 PM
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Just drop a tip to u: Photography is not only taking beautiful moments from ur eyes, but most importantly photography must be fun!
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Oct 3 2007, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 3 2007, 05:42 PM) You may want to consider a speedlight and try bounce flash. The flash will not looked hash on the face. Get the diffuser so the skin will look more smooth. travis poisoning ah!!! BTW i always wanted to have a flashgun, but i boh lui leh... still a student here.ATM, i just funded enough for a telelens, which im still considering which one to buy. After that, then i'll start funding for a flashgun. :grumbling: Here is the discussion thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=530407 Added on October 3, 2007, 5:51 pm QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 3 2007, 05:44 PM) Just drop a tip to u: Photography is not only taking beautiful moments from ur eyes, but most importantly photography must be fun! LOL having beautiful moments in great quality pictures are fun! This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 3 2007, 05:51 PM |
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Oct 4 2007, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:49 PM) travis poisoning ah!!! Depending on the type of photography that you are interested, do consider between the external flash and a low-cost telephoto lens. IMO, the external flash is more important than a low-cost telephoto lens. You can look at compatible flashguns if the original ones are too expensive for you. BTW i always wanted to have a flashgun, but i boh lui leh... still a student here.ATM, i just funded enough for a telelens, which im still considering which one to buy. After that, then i'll start funding for a flashgun. :grumbling: Here is the discussion thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=530407 |
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Oct 28 2007, 10:56 PM
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OK.. i went to PD.. so i have made up my mind... i really need an external flash... damn... it was hard filling in flash with the pop up flash...
here are some pictures.. comments and critics are most welcomed. just spit out anything u guys want to la..        |
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Oct 29 2007, 11:28 AM
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A funny pic to share.
 Learning to snap something which requires reaction and timing = sports, mind the body language of the player, comments & critics are most welcomed.   |
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Oct 29 2007, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 28 2007, 10:56 PM) OK.. i went to PD.. so i have made up my mind... i really need an external flash... damn... it was hard filling in flash with the pop up flash... Derek, while most of ur pics in pd are mainly snapshots, my credit goes to these pics here. Is ur last 2 pics is HDR or did u use any special filters? Anyway brilliant pic, even more brilliant if post processing is not used! here are some pictures.. comments and critics are most welcomed. just spit out anything u guys want to la.. This post has been edited by travis_ckf: Oct 29 2007, 01:05 PM |
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Oct 29 2007, 06:58 PM
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Bring to new page**
QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 28 2007, 10:56 PM) OK.. i went to PD.. so i have made up my mind... i really need an external flash... damn... it was hard filling in flash with the pop up flash... here are some pictures.. comments and critics are most welcomed. just spit out anything u guys want to la.. QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 29 2007, 11:28 AM) A funny pic to share. Learning to snap something which requires reaction and timing = sports, mind the body language of the player, comments & critics are most welcomed. QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 29 2007, 01:03 PM) Derek, while most of ur pics in pd are mainly snapshots, my credit goes to these pics here. Is ur last 2 pics is HDR or did u use any special filters? Anyway brilliant pic, even more brilliant if post processing is not used! thanks..the last 2 pics is not hdr.. no special filters. no money to buy filters.. im POOR** all i did was pp.. haha..This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 29 2007, 06:59 PM |
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Oct 30 2007, 08:38 AM
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Some of my little comments.
Composition of the pretty girl's portrait could be better by not leaving out the hands and fingers unless you are going for half body portraiture. Composition for girls with sunset picture is nice but the sun is overexposed. More silhouette with a proper exposed sun will be better. Meter at the sun and maybe decrease 0.5 - 1 stop exposure should be able to do it. The portrait pose before the sunset pictures looks a bit weird as the girl seems to be correcting herself due to you taking a tilted picture of her. Nice PP sunsets. Faster shutter speeds would be nicer for action pictures to freeze the moment. Finally, thanks for sharing and hope you had a great time there. |
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Oct 30 2007, 09:24 AM
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ooo... tanjung tuan beach resort there
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Oct 30 2007, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Oct 30 2007, 08:38 AM) Some of my little comments. Compmac, thanks for ur comments. I also thought the same way of what u said, that these pictures could be better if i did what u mentioned. I posted them up here because i wanted to make sure what i had in mind was correct or not.Composition of the pretty girl's portrait could be better by not leaving out the hands and fingers unless you are going for half body portraiture. Composition for girls with sunset picture is nice but the sun is overexposed. More silhouette with a proper exposed sun will be better. Meter at the sun and maybe decrease 0.5 - 1 stop exposure should be able to do it. The portrait pose before the sunset pictures looks a bit weird as the girl seems to be correcting herself due to you taking a tilted picture of her. Nice PP sunsets. Faster shutter speeds would be nicer for action pictures to freeze the moment. Finally, thanks for sharing and hope you had a great time there. :As for picture of the three girls facing the sunset, i had tried metering the sun, and have more silhouette. i looked at the preview and i did not like the picture. Therefore, the picture i took was according to my tastes and styles i think. Here is another similar picture but different composition, let me know what u think ok? thanks.  :The PP sunsets, i want to know, is there anything i can do to snap the sunset to look like this without any PP? :Action pictures, yeah.. it's my first time.. really want to improve on this. I always wanted to go to times square and snap the moving roller coaster to have more understanding about different shutter speeds, but doing this alone is boring.. haha.. anyone wants to go with me? we can make a small activity out of it, and meet each other to discuss? haha.. QUOTE(chiggy @ Oct 30 2007, 09:24 AM) ooo... tanjung tuan beach resort there Lol.. i dun even know what's the name of the place.. i only know it's port dickson.. "if im not mistaken" lol...This post has been edited by derek87: Oct 30 2007, 04:45 PM |
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Oct 30 2007, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 30 2007, 12:32 PM) Compmac, thanks for ur comments. I also thought the same way of what u said, that these pictures could be better if i did what u mentioned. I posted them up here because i wanted to make sure what i had in mind was correct or not. I'm glad that you have the same thoughts that I have on my comments.:As for picture of the three girls facing the sunset, i had tried metering the sun, and have more silhouette. i looked at the preview and i did not like the picture. Therefore, the picture i took was according to my tastes and styles i think. Here is another similar picture but different composition, let me know what u think ok? thanks. 
:The PP sunsets, i want to know, is there anything i can do to snap the sunset to look like this without any PP? :Action pictures, yeah.. it's my first time.. really want to improve on this. I always wanted to go to times square and snap the moving roller coaster to have more understanding about different shutter speeds, but doing this alone is boring.. haha.. anyone wants to go with me? we can make a small activity out of it, and meet each other to discuss? haha.. Lol.. i dun even know what's the name of the place.. i only know it's port dickson.. "if im not mistaken" lol... Don't trust the previews on the LCD. Most of the time will not be the same as on a proper LCD monitor. The main thing about getting a good sunset shot is to get the sun into focus and exposed properly while the rest are in dark silhouettes.The PP pictures are not "real" and I don't think you can get those kind of skies here. I prefer the camera able to capture what I see through the viewfinder instead of what I can get through PP. Here's one crappy sunset shot I took quite some time back.  I'm usually a lone ranger when going for photo shoot. Anyway, having a photo buddy along would be just great.PD? Do let me know if you ever drop by Seremban during weekdays as I'm working near there. Then you will have a photographer to accompany you. |
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Oct 30 2007, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(CompMac @ Oct 30 2007, 12:52 PM) I'm glad that you have the same thoughts that I have on my comments. So where can i get those kind of skies? haha..Don't trust the previews on the LCD. Most of the time will not be the same as on a proper LCD monitor. The main thing about getting a good sunset shot is to get the sun into focus and exposed properly while the rest are in dark silhouettes.The PP pictures are not "real" and I don't think you can get those kind of skies here. I prefer the camera able to capture what I see through the viewfinder instead of what I can get through PP. Here's one crappy sunset shot I took quite some time back. I'm usually a lone ranger when going for photo shoot. Anyway, having a photo buddy along would be just great.PD? Do let me know if you ever drop by Seremban during weekdays as I'm working near there. Then you will have a photographer to accompany you. Anyway.. thanks for the comments, Yeah.. i will let u know if i happen to have plannings in Seremban.. would look forward to meet you up. |
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Oct 31 2007, 07:08 PM
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Hmm i wondering since actually PD was my hometown, provided that weekend i am free, how about having the 3 of us going to pd together for photography? After that i can recommend a good seafood restaurant for dinner before heading off to home!
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Oct 31 2007, 07:17 PM
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WoW... sounds fun.. lol... canon, olympus, Nikon.. lol... but the travel distance would turn me off.. rofl..
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Oct 31 2007, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Oct 31 2007, 07:17 PM) WoW... sounds fun.. lol... canon, olympus, Nikon.. lol... but the travel distance would turn me off.. rofl.. Then where u staylah, maybe we can go together. Haha i suggesting after the middle of Nov. I should have my weekends back. Also i kinda miss pd now. I did return to pd for a few times for photography but my shots kinda poor back then. The last one was even worse due to weather conditions. I would love to come back there again! |
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Oct 31 2007, 07:23 PM
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im staying at melati utama, wangsa maju.. haha.. we can plan, no hurry.. =)
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Nov 1 2007, 09:36 AM
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For weekends, might need to plan ahead as I am away from Seremban (go see wife
). I am more flexible for weekdays.Good seafood is always great to hear. |
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Nov 1 2007, 02:38 PM
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Did somebody say 'seafood'
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Nov 1 2007, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Nov 1 2007, 02:38 PM) Did somebody say 'seafood' Lol... ac98 is interested also.... You guys want the best seafood? Go to sabah... LOL... my hometown's there. |
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Nov 1 2007, 03:09 PM
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Not only heard seafood.....but also Sabah.....
 are you offering a trip....  |
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Nov 1 2007, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Nov 1 2007, 02:38 PM) Lol... ac98 is interested also.... I don't need to go to Sabah for fresh and good seafood. I can get my fix at my wife's hometown in Sabak Bernam. It's cheap some more! You guys want the best seafood? Go to sabah... LOL... my hometown's there. |
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Nov 1 2007, 03:37 PM
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Yalah, Sabah abit expensive to fly over and eat
Sabak Bernam maybe can consider |
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Nov 1 2007, 04:52 PM
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haha.. ya.. i know it's expensive. i mean if you happen to be in sabah. MUST TRY! im sure u know that too... haha... =)
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Nov 1 2007, 04:55 PM
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Lao, this become a seafood discussion
What i trying to suggest is we all go to PD one day to snap some good pics, and by evening we all reward ourselves with a good seafood dinner at Chua (some travelling required frm PD, but its worth it!) What say u guys? |
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Nov 1 2007, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Nov 1 2007, 04:55 PM) Lao, this become a seafood discussion I am game if you're fetching me What i trying to suggest is we all go to PD one day to snap some good pics, and by evening we all reward ourselves with a good seafood dinner at Chua (some travelling required frm PD, but its worth it!) What say u guys? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Nov 1 2007, 06:00 PM
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Just set a date and time and see how things go. A gathering of photographers from different camps should be a good one.
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Nov 2 2007, 09:49 AM
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Can i join? i'm staying at Seremban,and always go PD..
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Nov 2 2007, 04:41 PM
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hahaha... im ok with that if u join... but... im also not sure whether im going or not.. LOL!!!
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Nov 2 2007, 05:35 PM
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wonder how many of you all are from PD.
I used to stay in PD, but i moved a lot around Malaysia. Last time study primary one and two at Lukut. the move to some place else. Then came back and study form4 & 5 at Sek. Men. Abd. Samad...if i not mistaken the school name . The one before PD high school.PD is like a cowboy town, but i love it. |
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Nov 2 2007, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Nov 2 2007, 04:41 PM) hahaha... im ok with that if u join... but... im also not sure whether im going or not.. LOL!!! tak apa, we organize and enjoy eating seafood w/o u QUOTE(aaltong @ Nov 2 2007, 05:35 PM) wonder how many of you all are from PD. Hmm just to let u know i grew up in pd until i going for university. The high school u went is SEDASA, while i spent 5 yrs in its rival high school, STPD. I used to stay in PD, but i moved a lot around Malaysia. Last time study primary one and two at Lukut. the move to some place else. Then came back and study form4 & 5 at Sek. Men. Abd. Samad...if i not mistaken the school name . The one before PD high school.PD is like a cowboy town, but i love it. Just wondering when u did ur SPM so i knew how old r u Anyway pd still remain a, hmm , well developed cowboy town to me still! I would love to come back to snap some pics, not only the beaches but also the oldtown. |
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Nov 3 2007, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Nov 2 2007, 08:43 PM) tak apa, we organize and enjoy eating seafood w/o u Haha... not saying that if im not going everything will be cancel... LOL.. im not that taikor... Just saying that it's useless to ask me.. should ask majority. lol...Hmm just to let u know i grew up in pd until i going for university. The high school u went is SEDASA, while i spent 5 yrs in its rival high school, STPD. Just wondering when u did ur SPM so i knew how old r u Anyway pd still remain a, hmm , well developed cowboy town to me still! I would love to come back to snap some pics, not only the beaches but also the oldtown. |
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Nov 6 2007, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Nov 2 2007, 08:43 PM) Hmm just to let u know i grew up in pd until i going for university. The high school u went is SEDASA, while i spent 5 yrs in its rival high school, STPD. Ah yes, SEDASA. Now i remember. STPD is our rival high school meh ?? but my gf then was from there wor. lol. Just wondering when u did ur SPM so i knew how old r u Hai yah... i think i old already lar. born year 75. So 32 years old already |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:34 AM
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PC FAIR 2007 DEC - Have Fun
A few oof, a few noisy. Anyway.. just sharing it.         This post has been edited by derek87: Dec 8 2007, 03:47 AM |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:35 AM
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Dec 8 2007, 03:45 AM
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Dec 8 2007, 09:30 AM
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Nice shot dude especially the last pic hahah
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Dec 8 2007, 10:32 AM
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Not a bad attempt, considering u did not used flash at all. But i believe the pic will looked better with a flashgun, but u must know how to utilize it or else u might screw up like how my few pics suffered.
Didnt get the nvidia girls? Thanks for sharing bro! |
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Dec 8 2007, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(K.E @ Aug 6 2007, 02:58 PM) at KL MSI booth? |
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Dec 8 2007, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Dec 8 2007, 10:32 AM) Not a bad attempt, considering u did not used flash at all. But i believe the pic will looked better with a flashgun, but u must know how to utilize it or else u might screw up like how my few pics suffered. Ahh... the nvidia girls... i saw them when i was on my way back. So.. nah.. didnt have the time to shoot them.. haha..Didnt get the nvidia girls? Thanks for sharing bro! LOL.... i did brought my flash gun which i just bought a few days ago, i tried using it, tried to bounce which is impossible, tried to direct flash which i dun like the harshness of the flash (coz haven got a diffuser) on the face.. so ended up shooting in high iso... >< QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 8 2007, 11:08 AM) The left girl is HOT!! That was last pc fair.. the left girl is the girl in the 3girls picture with the lens flare.. the left one too.. at KL MSI booth? This post has been edited by derek87: Dec 8 2007, 03:40 PM |
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Dec 8 2007, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Dec 8 2007, 11:08 AM) The left girl is HOT!! got ma ... she go HTC liao ... see properly xD at KL MSI booth?  |
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Dec 8 2007, 08:41 PM
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not bad wht lens u using??
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Dec 8 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(~\G.O.D/~ @ Dec 8 2007, 08:41 PM) not bad wht lens u using?? 50mm 1.8. Had to stand far far away.. |
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Dec 10 2007, 07:26 AM
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u also have a god hand. can shoot with shutter speed 1/50.
canon iso control very good, for my d40, 1600 totally can not. T_T |
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Dec 10 2007, 10:58 AM
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your color, contrast, skintone is consistently out. practice more with your camera.
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Dec 10 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(gold3knight @ Dec 10 2007, 10:58 AM) your color, contrast, skintone is consistently out. practice more with your camera. hmmm... colour and contrast and skintone... how do i have a consistency of those? i mean like i'll use different WB in different halls. different ISO in different light situations. Im using contrast +2, sharpness +2, saturation +2, and color tone +1 parameter. Is there something wrong with that? i noticed that if i dun use this parameter, i'll have to pp a lot. A few WB tweaks and brightness are done with those pictures, din use any photoshop tools. So i really would like to know how do i control colour, contrast, skintone with the camera besides using WB.For me, i dont like warm pictures, so for the grandballroom, tungsten WB is used for the pictures. For some of them, i used fluorescent, and rarely AWB. Thanks for ur comment, would appreciate if u can explain more. Thank you. Added on December 10, 2007, 1:20 pm QUOTE(FESEM @ Dec 10 2007, 07:26 AM) u also have a god hand. can shoot with shutter speed 1/50. Shooting at 1/50 is nothing. Im only using the 1/lens' mm rule as im using 50mm lens. canon iso control very good, for my d40, 1600 totally can not. T_T Anyway, thank you for ur compliment. Actually im quite dissappointed with my batch of pictures, coz im using ISO1600. I DO NOT LIKE TO USE above ISO 400, coz the pictures will lose a lot of details. I bought a flash that week, i have learnt using it before going to pc fair, tried a lot of experimental shots, but still i failed to use it in the pc fair. And also one thing, i dun have my diffusser, coz i just got the flash. LOL. AND one more thing. i dun like pictures which show that flash is obviously being used(having dark backgrounds and harsh light on the face). So that is why i ended up shooting at ISO1600. >< This post has been edited by derek87: Dec 10 2007, 01:20 PM |
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Dec 10 2007, 02:39 PM
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High iso resulting high level of noise
maybe u can try bounce flash, but not direct flash. with bounce flash,solve all ur problem (noise,wb etc) |
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Dec 10 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(derek87 @ Dec 10 2007, 01:13 PM) hmmm... colour and contrast and skintone... how do i have a consistency of those? i mean like i'll use different WB in different halls. different ISO in different light situations. Im using contrast +2, sharpness +2, saturation +2, and color tone +1 parameter. Is there something wrong with that? i noticed that if i dun use this parameter, i'll have to pp a lot. A few WB tweaks and brightness are done with those pictures, din use any photoshop tools. So i really would like to know how do i control colour, contrast, skintone with the camera besides using WB. High ISO w/o using a flashgun is dangerous as this will resulting on a noisy photos. Personally, i only use ISO1600 depending on situations. Later in my TXN shots i will explain when i use ISO1600. For me, i dont like warm pictures, so for the grandballroom, tungsten WB is used for the pictures. For some of them, i used fluorescent, and rarely AWB. Thanks for ur comment, would appreciate if u can explain more. Thank you. Added on December 10, 2007, 1:20 pm Shooting at 1/50 is nothing. Im only using the 1/lens' mm rule as im using 50mm lens. Anyway, thank you for ur compliment. Actually im quite dissappointed with my batch of pictures, coz im using ISO1600. I DO NOT LIKE TO USE above ISO 400, coz the pictures will lose a lot of details. I bought a flash that week, i have learnt using it before going to pc fair, tried a lot of experimental shots, but still i failed to use it in the pc fair. And also one thing, i dun have my diffusser, coz i just got the flash. LOL. AND one more thing. i dun like pictures which show that flash is obviously being used(having dark backgrounds and harsh light on the face). So that is why i ended up shooting at ISO1600. >< Also on WB, i learnt that the best policy is just to use back auto. Play around with the exposure meter is more important than the WB. Just my 2nd cents |
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Dec 10 2007, 03:46 PM
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WB is as much part of the important elements to your photos' exposure. dun believe me, try to make your wb off in your next shooting. It wouldn't matter how well you meter your photo if your wb is off.
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Dec 10 2007, 05:04 PM
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Frankly speaking... PC Fair 3 was rather boring.
- the promoters are too "aggressive" and I could not browse and choose the the stuffs. - the models are very "funny"... some of them refused to pose at all, most of them covered their bodies with huge leaflets.... so, what is the point if they are are wearing nice, pretty and sexy dress if in the end they were reluctant... i think the organizers should get more open-&-crazy-posing-minded models.... it's is funny when we get these photos online or publish in the newspapers.... |
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Dec 10 2007, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(budakcomel @ Dec 10 2007, 05:04 PM) Frankly speaking... PC Fair 3 was rather boring. Why are u posting almost the "same" comment on each pc fair series? hahaha... gotcha!! =P- the promoters are too "aggressive" and I could not browse and choose the the stuffs. - the models are very "funny"... some of them refused to pose at all, most of them covered their bodies with huge leaflets.... so, what is the point if they are are wearing nice, pretty and sexy dress if in the end they were reluctant... i think the organizers should get more open-&-crazy-posing-minded models.... it's is funny when we get these photos online or publish in the newspapers.... Added on December 10, 2007, 6:31 pm QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Dec 10 2007, 02:39 PM) High iso resulting high level of noise I did try bouncing flash, the hall's ceiling is way too high up.. cant bounce, we are not taking pictures near the walls either. I dont know this, maybe im using the wrong bouncing flash technique? haha.. thanks anyway.maybe u can try bounce flash, but not direct flash. with bounce flash,solve all ur problem (noise,wb etc) QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Dec 10 2007, 03:21 PM) High ISO w/o using a flashgun is dangerous as this will resulting on a noisy photos. Personally, i only use ISO1600 depending on situations. Later in my TXN shots i will explain when i use ISO1600. I read quite a couple of articles on WBs, using AWB with jpeg is dangerous(raw can be still be saved), playing with the WB actually means getting a perfect white in pictures, which also means, if an object is actually white, but it turned out to be another colour in the picture, this means ur WB is wrong. Correct me if im wrong. Also on WB, i learnt that the best policy is just to use back auto. Play around with the exposure meter is more important than the WB. Just my 2nd cents  I personally think that both WB and exposure is important. Good exposure, wrong WB = A 3 year old colouring a human's face blue or something. Bad exposure, good WB = cant see a thing, nothing to judge. hahaha.. QUOTE(gold3knight @ Dec 10 2007, 03:46 PM) WB is as much part of the important elements to your photos' exposure. dun believe me, try to make your wb off in your next shooting. It wouldn't matter how well you meter your photo if your wb is off. Well, i believe you. And i wont be that stupid to make my WB off in my next shooting, cause i experienced that before. =PAnyway. u have not answer me. In what sense and how do u judge color, contrast and skintone's consistency of a picture in different light situations? I will be enlightened if u can really light up my mind. Thanks!! This post has been edited by derek87: Dec 10 2007, 06:31 PM |
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Jan 7 2008, 01:58 PM
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So long time din post d.. Here are some random pics from my trip to Melaka! C&C are most welcome!
Stray Cat  Malacca Church, original sky(completely white) is replaced.  Malacca Mall Christmas Deco  Old Lady Cycling along the streets of Malacca  Sacred Temple in Malacca Jonkers Street  Dataran Pahlawan. Editted to Sepia Oldies Feel.  Stoned Looking Kid. Another Malacca Street Shot.  Yellow Flower  Here are two more pictures which are shot later, not in Malacca. Imaginary Sky  Full Moon  Hope you guys enjoyed viewing. Thanks. |
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Jan 7 2008, 02:28 PM
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The last 2 pics are lovely, nice sky and moon!
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Jan 7 2008, 02:40 PM
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wah... sharp and colourful photo.....
sifu sifu.... teach me teach me!!!!! |
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Jan 7 2008, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 7 2008, 02:28 PM) The last 2 pics are lovely, nice sky and moon! Thanks.QUOTE(snowmei @ Jan 7 2008, 02:40 PM) wah... sharp and colourful photo..... aiyo.. this snowmei ah..... you the one teach me.... now ask me teach u? apa hal... Lao....sifu sifu.... teach me teach me!!!!! Anyway, Happy New year To all LYN members. Busy with exams this month.. no time go shoot d... dam!!! But after exam will be going back hometown, that time will try go in jungle shoot flora and orang utan!! lol.... wish me luck. |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:44 PM
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C & C anyone?
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Jan 11 2008, 07:19 PM
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This photo taken using kit lens ? |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 11 2008, 07:19 PM) This photo taken using kit lens ? |
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