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post Apr 19 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Apr 19 2021, 12:07 PM)
anyone apply protectant on the red dashboard? and the seats?
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I just use vinyl,rubber, leather, plastic protectant from Mr. DIY shop.
Still shining after a month of usage.
Applied on dashboard, leather seat and external - tyres and black plastic.
For external black plastic part after apply, I also put coating on top.

I think it could last upto 2 months.

Just my 2-cents, I also want to learn from others how would you protect your car with minimum effort and $$$.
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post Apr 19 2021, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Apr 19 2021, 01:10 PM)
thanks, also am planning to apply car wax diy later, anyone bought this mud guard from shopee?
https://shopee.com.my/Proton-X50-X-50-Wheel...5233.4860979685
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I saw earlier, the mud guard does not have the same mounting hole for X50.
End up the user only secure with 1 screw.

Not sure this is the same. Coolray not 100% equal X50.
Do check your X50 first before ordering.
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post Apr 19 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(kons @ Apr 19 2021, 02:19 PM)
my x50 is at 2400km mileage.. today the turbo decide to die.

already book an appointment at local sc to check soon.

now have to rev until 3k to get the car moving from standstill, and acceleration is super slow.
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Maybe more sharing here if possible, did you go into flood area? or aggressive driving style?
Please don't get me wrong, I just wanted to know if any unusual drive style here or the turbo just die without unusual behavior or notice?
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post May 6 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(mryellow19 @ May 5 2021, 04:48 PM)
Anyone interested to get a DSP with adjustable EQ could consider this base model.

https://shopee.com.my/Audxeon-D1600-DSP-Amp...7846.4436459084
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QUOTE(ycs @ May 5 2021, 04:53 PM)
strangely, i ordered 2 days ago, its otw

do you know how to tune it?
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QUOTE(mryellow19 @ May 5 2021, 05:17 PM)
Just got it tuned today by a car accessory shop. The software is not overly complicated and you can probably do it if you have those audio test files (which has a whole range of natural sounds and those that are split into different tracks for tuning individual speakers). Since I sent mine to a car accessory shop, I've asked them to tune it for me as well.
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QUOTE(ycs @ May 5 2021, 09:39 PM)
initially wanted to get the 31-channel dsp, but thought maybe too many channels to play with;

is the sound improved a lot? can share your presets? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mryellow19 @ May 5 2021, 11:10 PM)
I wouldn't say improved a lot when compared to having changed the speakers and adding sub woofers. But having this dsp definitely boost up the gain even without any tuning done yet. When compared from stock sound and using the different preset settings available in the HU, having this dsp was definitely an improvement to my ears after tuning. The bass was having more clarity. The treble was already high on the stock so I had to tune it down a little to please my ear. The mid low and mid high was significantly better as well since you are able to adjust the level of different frequencies.

The tuning was done according to your seating position so the presets may not be the same for all cars even with the same model. Having the 31 band would definitely help fine tune the sound further but either way, using stock speakers would not do much more improvement in my opinion since the power of the stock speakers are probably already maxed out with a dsp installed.

Overall for a non audiophile like me who just wants better sound clarity, this dsp is a cheap solution that I can live with for a long time. BTW I wasn't using joox for music, but my own collection of a mixture of mp3 and flac.
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I have installed the DSP Audxeon D1680 a months plus and I learned and did the tuning myself.
On my Flagship, just by adding DSP only, it is definite much better that it can help to boost the bass and mid bass; or getting crisp on mid to high freq range.

The original speakers are not bad, only lack of bass and some mid bass range, will DSP can set to have more bass or crisp in the front or rear speak.
I'm still learning to tune, increase bass may come a bit of sacrifices on high frequency range or vice versa if your want more crisp sound at high freq. However with the DSP, you can also tune front speakers more crisp and rear more bass and mid bass.

However, a week ago I got myself an active subwoofer too and I would say it is amazing sound now. It make my tuning much more easier and flexible.
-Front speakers focus of mid and high freq, filtered low freq.
-Rear speakers filtered a little on the low freq and may it covered from mid bass freq range upto high freq and boost on high freq range.
-Active subwoofer, didn't do any change, flat signal direct from DSP to active sub. Only adjust gain and added little bass boost from active sub. itself.

Measuring with pink noise, I can now easily tune to audiophile profile (flat across the freq. range and slight higher of high freq range) with the original speaker + active subwoofer comparing to without active subwoofer.

Again I'm a noob on this and still learning here, however if you are using the same DSP, I'm gladly to share my setting profile with you.


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post May 6 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 6 2021, 10:59 AM)
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do you use a RTA to measure with a mic? i'll have a go at it, and see how, thanks
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I just using my Ipad Pro.
Not the best, that is what I have.
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post May 10 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 10 2021, 03:08 PM)
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can show how your dsp is hidden? under the front passenger seat?
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Yes, DSP is underneath the front passenger seat.
Then active subwoofer underneath driver seat.
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post May 12 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 11 2021, 08:48 PM)
what is the blue wire in your DSP connected to? i didnt connect my blue wire; i DIY installed mine today

can get a screenshot of your settings?
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Here is my settings, hope someone can provide the feedback if he/she tested on his DSP.
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Attached zip containing "20210512-MoreBass_CH6.S6Set" for Windows for Audxeon D1680 and "21May10c6Bass1.20" for CAR_DSP app on phone, this must be put inside \Root\CAR_DSP folder.
Attached File  Audxeon_D1680_settings.zip ( 6.95k ) Number of downloads: 58


Your question for blue wire, it is the ACC/remote signal, on default you can leave as is it without connection.
For me, I use this ACC for the active subwoofer.

QUOTE(exdtan @ May 12 2021, 10:54 AM)
Bro just a question, won’t installing a subwoofer void your warranty ?
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Refer to mryellow19 at below.

QUOTE(mryellow19 @ May 12 2021, 02:28 PM)
I believe he output the active subwoofer through the DSP (the right two cables)
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You're absolutely right, the audio signal and remote/ACC power coming from DSP.

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post May 12 2021, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ May 12 2021, 11:04 PM)
So when taking to SC to service, just need to unplug ? Or no need ?

Because the SC may still ask and ack smart to say warranty void because this this installed
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Haha...no idea.
Perhaps someone experienced with proton can share.

In my past experiences with perodua or honda, they don't kacau when sending your car to regular services.
I think it only kacau you when you wanted to claim something linking the parts you have touched.

Of coZ for claiming purpose, we should remove it, knowing Proton knowing for not setting standards for their dealer and the dealer can be sub par level to avoid any additional works or asking for profit by telling you claim not acceptable.

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post May 12 2021, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(nikewai @ May 12 2021, 11:46 PM)
Hi, does it mean the active sub is powered up by the dsp instead of drawing power frm the car battery?
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No, active subwoofer draw power direct from car battery.

Additionally another 12V ACC from the DSP cable to ON the subwoofer when the car ignited/started.
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post May 13 2021, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 13 2021, 03:29 PM)
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thanks for sharing; mine is only 15 channel DSP, so adjusted roughly to yours

used SPL meter to check levels; sound is much fuller, better low end, tamed the trebles; maybe later add a subwoofer

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You should install RT app or EQ spectrum meter on you phone or Ipad to check the frequency with pink noise to see the frequency from each or front/back speakers. I think IPAD have much better mic.

The settings I gave has tune down abit of bass to allow the speakers to give better clarity and also leave some of the low freq to active subwoofer to do the work.
You can try adjust freq 50hz to 200 hz range to high to give your more bass. You can try with rear speakers first and the slow adjust for front too.
I tried before that you can get really good bass from this, but sacrifying high end freq. and abit of clarity.

QUOTE(exdtan @ May 13 2021, 05:38 PM)
Bro what you said make sense. Thanks for sharing your experience !
Mind sharing which Subwoofer brand you bought and how much  + installation ?
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The active subwoofer that I'm having is Blaupunkt GTR-130.
Got it at RM405 via shoppee.
https://shopee.com.my/product/41571200/1906...52-1620900152.9

Originally I was planning to DIY, but I don't have the right tool to pass the (+) cable from car battery thru the grommet at the firewall, thus end up asking accessories shop and they charge me RM90 for labour works for the installation.

QUOTE(exdtan @ May 13 2021, 05:40 PM)
This basically means need to hot wire to battery/board right ?
Like if want to make dashcam on 24 hours also need to do that. Which means will void warranty…. That’s what my SA told me
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It is pulling a (+) directly from battery to active subwoofer. Then ACC/remote coming from PnP socket for DSP.
No wire cutting involved here, however question void warranty is very idiotic subjective matter for Proton.
At least I do have the option to remove if I needed.

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post May 13 2021, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ May 13 2021, 10:33 PM)
Now you make my heart itchy 😂 so total DSP + Active Sub + installation I assume you spent around 1.3K ?
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Below 1k.

Rm 400 DSP + RM 405 A.Sub + Rm 90 labour + Rm45 for 2M length of RCA cable from accessories shop.

Edited:
Most accessories shop Penang will charge rm800 - 1000 just for DSP and another rm800 - 1k for active subwoofer.

I buy online and DIY installation +own tuning a fair bit thus price reduced a fair bit.

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post May 13 2021, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(nikewai @ May 13 2021, 11:04 PM)
Hi since you have the active sub installed by accessories shop, im thinking to dyi myself. Can u show some pic how the +cable is pulled frm battery into the car thru the firewall?  Can find a path to get thru the firewall frm what i see. Thx
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The entrance is at the grommet at firewall is located behind the battery. Then the exit hole is right below the glovebox cover, which you need to dismantle the below bottom the glovebox to access.
If not mistaken just need to remove 1 clip only.

The tech who help me, just use a thin strip which a little sharp at the tip to cut a small line on the grommets and push it thru till exit hole, it is about 1m long.
I dont have such tool, thus end up goto accessories shop.

Because I already have the DSP and the active subwoofer already came with the cables except RCA cable. It was quite fast for the tech to pull the power from battery, remote + RCA from DSP to A. Sub.
It only took 30 - 35 mins for 2 of them to help me install the A.sub.

I didn't have picture after the cable goto thru the grommets but below if before to give you an idea.
I can take the photos later to show you the exact spot.



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post May 14 2021, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(exdtan @ May 14 2021, 08:06 AM)
Thanks bro, can share where you bought your DSP ? I tried looking for DSP that costs 400 on Shopee but no luck
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I was getting from this seller at Rm400 with the PnP cable. Which I also informed him to give specific cable for Proton X50.

https://shopee.com.my/product/230867846/561...2-1617371903.10

Unfortunately, I saw the price jackup to rm 500 + 72 (cable)

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I did a quick check also, another brand here offer the similar spec. at Rm300, you might want to consider.
https://shopee.com.my/product/53680745/5379...52-1620952313.9

Another model but same brand with slightly more features.
https://shopee.com.my/product/53680745/5664...52-1620952978.9
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post May 14 2021, 08:55 AM

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For sharing here, this is my car audio profile measured using Ipad Pro.

Not perfect, thus feel free to comments.
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post May 14 2021, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(nikewai @ May 14 2021, 11:29 AM)
Thanks for sharing the information, it helps a lot.
Installing DSP dyi seems to be easier for my level now since this is purely plug and play with cable specific for x50. Hope with dsp + proper tuning will improve the audio quality.
Thanks again.
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From battery
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Go into grommet
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Coming out near the socket below BCM/ECU box.
View from bottom up.
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Another view of the BCM/ECU from glovebox before pulling the cable.
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You will need to dismantle the glovebox and the cover behind & underneath the glovebox to get access.

For glovebox
- 2 plastic screw(that work as a hinge) inside the box. You can use 20sen coin to remove it by turning 90 degree (rotation direction depends on left or right side).
- I think only for FS/premium model got a damper on the right side of the glovebox that you need to remove. It is just snap in on to a clip, you need to press to release it.
-After removed above, you can pull the glovesbox on facing up direction, but I find it easier to pull out if you loosen or remove bottom cover first.

Bottom cover
- Just a single clip at center, once removed, you can the bottom on down direction, there are 2 snap hinge latching vertically at left and right. Then another 2 latching horizontally at the back.
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Back cover behind glovebox.
- 3 screws facing you that can be open using Philip screwdriver or socket.
- Then another 3 screws on top side, can only open with Philip screwdriver.
After removed the screws, you can put your fingers inside the cutout hole on top to pull the cover out facing you. The cover is also hinging on the bottom cover if you didn't remove it earlier, thus it is easier to remove it first.

From here, you can also push the side cover near door at the dashboard to allow cable to pull to passager seat.
For the underneath center console/dashboard it is also easily open by pulling (no tool required) . It is secured by a single clip that can act as a hinge. So you can just pull the small panel opposite to the clip. This is to allow you pull cable crossing from passager to driver side.

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post May 14 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ May 14 2021, 01:00 PM)
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thanks, what they use to cut the grommet hole? a small knife?

wire comes out about here?

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If you seen before accessories shop normally using a stainless steel strip with 4-5mm width and around 1mm thick, that is what you can use.
I see from YouTube, you can use those steel hanger by unbend it also possible, but I dont even have steel cloth hanger with me that can easily unbend and yet flexible.

The wire come out around that area, more toward the behind the blower.
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post May 14 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(mryellow19 @ May 14 2021, 02:21 PM)
The seller although for some reason jacked up the price, it is actually still the same. That's because he has the voucher with huge discount on price biggrin.gif RM172 discount for purchase above RM570.

exdtan, the Shopee link I posted from the same seller was the RM300 version for 15 band
https://shopee.com.my/product/230867846/443...64-1620973052.9
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Saw it now, make sure you claim the vendor voucher and buy with the cable else you won't able to use the voucher.

QUOTE(nikewai @ May 14 2021, 02:35 PM)
Thanks.. good information i can keep for future Diy project
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You are welcome.
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post Jun 4 2022, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(xeon1989 @ Jun 3 2022, 02:59 PM)
This is the guide to downgrade and make use of the APK installation function in Engineering mode to install app.
Unfortunately the Chinese firmware are not the same with us as ours are modded one.
It's very risky to flash just like that.

Furthermore, if we do not have Malaysian ROM to restore in case of shit happened, it's not advisable to flash Chinese ROM.
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I'm have limited knowledge on this, but as far I understand the new technic for CN and RU already has been simplified.
Somehow they found the hash key and scripts to install apk sideway.
All the user need is extract the needed files, older and scripts to usb drive. Just by insert the USB drive to usb port will complete the installation and reboot the HU for you.
Geely 🇵🇭 group are charging around 3k-5k pesos for the services and can be done via online transfer with instructions.

The one from FB, is charging rm350 now for those in K!L area. I think they won't do it online as they scare to leak it.
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post Jun 4 2022, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jun 4 2022, 04:56 PM)
if you search this thread, someone installed a Bosch underseat sub last year; my only concern is having to pull a cable from the battery thru the firewall
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I'm one of the users but with Blaupunkt GTR130
DSP is plug and play no additional power source needed.
Subwoofer get audio signal and remote from DSP. Then to power it, I have to pull a power cable from battery and go through firewall.
I didn't pull the cable instead I get accessories shop to help.

If I would rate here,
DSP installation is Easy.
Subwoofer installation is Medium provided you have the right cable puller.

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Jun 4 2022, 09:52 AM)
any forumer install underseat subwoofer for x50? can intro/suggest to me ?

I already got Carrozeria DSP, plan to get subwoofer due to stock speaker produce 'meh' quality of sound when you hit it with bass and treble song.
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I have installed 2 units of x50 Flagship
One for myself, DSP + subwoofer underneath the seat.
Another is for my parent just DSP.

In my opinion here, with the right tuning you should able to get a good balance without the sub.
Of course with subwoofer, you will definitely feel the beating underneath your seat.

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