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mini orchard
post Jul 17 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Jul 17 2020, 10:22 AM)
remove all the plaster gypsum boards and frames of ceiling
attach/stick firmly and cover all the ceiling with a layer of 2mm or 3mm MLV sheets directly to the ceiling
then build ceiling stud, fill the stud space with rockwool 50mm 60kg/m3 mineral wool at least
then use 9mm at least gypsum boards to cover ceiling stud
then a layer of MLV again attached to the gypsum board again (ensure it is firmly attached and wont drop)

then build ceiling stud again, but this layer leave it with a gap of 6 inches at least with above, fill the stud space with rockwool 50mm 60kg/m3 mineral wool at least again

then use gypsum board to seal the ceiling as per what you have of your ceiling now
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How much ceiling height left for normal condo ? Fan installation ?

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 17 2020, 12:15 PM
liyanakahar
post Jul 18 2020, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 17 2020, 12:14 PM)
How much ceiling height left for normal condo ? Fan installation ?
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floor to plaster ceiling is 10ft. old school unit is 9ft.
floor to RC ceiling is 12ft. so you have about 2ft (30cm) room to play with.
by doing that, you can reduce about 20db-30db noise from above.
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post Jul 18 2020, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Jul 18 2020, 01:22 PM)
floor to plaster ceiling is 10ft. old school unit is 9ft.
floor to RC ceiling is 12ft. so you have about 2ft (30cm) room to play with.
by doing that, you can reduce about 20db-30db noise from above.
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2ft = 60cm
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post Jul 18 2020, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Jul 18 2020, 01:22 PM)
floor to plaster ceiling is 10ft. old school unit is 9ft.
floor to RC ceiling is 12ft. so you have about 2ft (30cm) room to play with.
by doing that, you can reduce about 20db-30db noise from above.
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Thanks for the suggestion but it seems that the noise is also coming from the next door unit. Not sure if re-installing the plaster ceiling with added layers will fix this too. 😔

For now, am speaking with the management to help talk to the neighbors...hopefully that works.
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post Jul 19 2020, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 18 2020, 09:05 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion but it seems that the noise is also coming from the next door unit. Not sure if re-installing the plaster ceiling with added layers will fix this too. 😔

For now, am speaking with the management to help talk to the neighbors...hopefully that works.
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so the same thing to the wall. a layer of MLV attached to the plaster cement brick wall, then build a wall stud, fill the stud with rockwool, seal the stud with a layer of gypsum board.
of course you will still hear noise if the kid purposely knock the wall but it will be compromised and feel the noise a bit more denser.
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post Jul 19 2020, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Jul 19 2020, 07:56 AM)
so the same thing to the wall. a layer of MLV attached to the plaster cement brick wall, then build a wall stud, fill the stud with rockwool, seal the stud with a layer of gypsum board.
of course you will still hear noise if the kid purposely knock the wall but it will be compromised and feel the noise a bit more denser.
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Ooh...okay. Would you happen to know how much in total I would have to spend to fix the ceiling and shared wall? Hopefully it won’t cost a bomb.
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post Jul 19 2020, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 19 2020, 05:55 PM)
Ooh...okay. Would you happen to know how much in total I would have to spend to fix the ceiling and shared wall?  Hopefully it won’t cost a bomb.
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My estimation ~Rm300+/sq.meter
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post Jul 20 2020, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 19 2020, 05:55 PM)
Ooh...okay. Would you happen to know how much in total I would have to spend to fix the ceiling and shared wall?  Hopefully it won’t cost a bomb.
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MLV sheets 3mm cost about rm10 per sqft
Gypsum boards 9mm 4ftx8ft cost about rm0.625 per sqft
Rockwool 50mm 60kg/m3 cost about rm4 per sqft
Pine wood 1x2x6ft cost about rm8 per piece

Calculate the material cost your own. Of course it would be much more cheaper if you purchase your own but provided got someone wanna do it for you.
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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 15 2020, 04:52 PM)
I found this guy on FB: https://www.facebook.com/Aestherior/

I think this would suit your case more...
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This one is way to fancy lol.
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post Jul 25 2020, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 14 2020, 08:13 PM)
Hi guys,

Anyone here has successfully installed acoustic foam or tiling to absorb some sounds coming from the upstairs unit?

Some background on why I need this installed:

Been living in a condo for a year and all was well until my next door neighbors and upstairs neighbor moved in with their kids. Previously, the unit was so peaceful and quiet until these neighbors moved in and made my life hell what with all the running and pounding sounds (kids must be jumping as well).

Can’t really fully place the blame on them since the developer cheaped out on the materials, but I have spoken to the neighbors regarding the noise and it has decreased after a certain time. However, when the kids are running, the pounding is still giving me a headache.

I’ve installed a plaster ceiling but am looking into redoing it and getting a professional well versed in soundproofing to lay some acoustic panelling or foam and install a new plaster ceiling (mainly for the living room).

For those who have done this, would like to know: has it worked? How much did you spend and can you recommend your contractor?

Thanks!
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Ya. My cousin's apartment at Midfields 2 also has a kid running around like an elephant. Why can't neighbours be more noise consentious?

Padding your ceiling isn't going to do anything as noise will travel through the walls too. The noise will also transfer from living room through the other ceilings making it soundlike it's coming from there.

Your best bet is perhaps asking your neighbour down to you place and hear what their kids sound like as they run around..

Being a nice neighbour to your neighbour might do the trick.

Having said that, my problem in Penang is those pesky mat remits going through the road below me. Need to soundproof my walls and windows... Or else a cannonball as I will shoot them!

This post has been edited by GuyB: Jul 25 2020, 10:25 PM
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post Jul 28 2020, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 25 2020, 10:19 PM)
Ya. My cousin's apartment at Midfields 2 also has a kid running around like an elephant. Why can't neighbours be more noise consentious?

Padding your ceiling isn't going to do anything as noise will travel through the walls too. The noise will also transfer from living room through the other ceilings making it soundlike it's coming from there.

Your best bet is perhaps asking your neighbour down to you place and hear what their kids sound like as they run around..

Being a nice neighbour to your neighbour might do the trick.

Having said that, my problem in Penang is those pesky mat remits going through the road below me. Need to soundproof my walls and windows... Or else a cannonball as I will shoot them!
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Some neighbours are just aholes no matter how nice you are to them. I guess the good thing is that they’ve stopped making noise close to midnight.

Urgh, I feel you about those damn mat rempits! You can try to invest in the double glazed windows...I live right next to a mosque and somewhat busy road and it has reduced the noise by 80%. Else, pray that the mat rempits all crash and die.

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Jul 28 2020, 12:25 AM)
Some neighbours are just aholes no matter how nice you are to them. I guess the good thing is that they’ve stopped making noise close to midnight.

Urgh, I feel you about those damn mat rempits! You can try to invest in the double glazed windows...I live right next to a mosque and somewhat busy road and it has reduced the noise by 80%. Else, pray that the mat rempits all crash and die.
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Can't soundproof windows. I'm renting!

Isn't there a law on noisy vehicles? There are motorcycles that sound like a angry lawnmower on 2 wheels...

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post Aug 7 2021, 08:15 PM

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I understand it's a 2 years old post. Anyone has luck in soundproofing ?

Any recommendation for the contractor in Penang? Many thanks!
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post Aug 7 2021, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Jul 17 2020, 10:22 AM)
remove all the plaster gypsum boards and frames of ceiling
attach/stick firmly and cover all the ceiling with a layer of 2mm or 3mm MLV sheets directly to the ceiling
then build ceiling stud, fill the stud space with rockwool 50mm 60kg/m3 mineral wool at least
then use 9mm at least gypsum boards to cover ceiling stud
then a layer of MLV again attached to the gypsum board again (ensure it is firmly attached and wont drop)

then build ceiling stud again, but this layer leave it with a gap of 6 inches at least with above, fill the stud space with rockwool 50mm 60kg/m3 mineral wool at least again

then use gypsum board to seal the ceiling as per what you have of your ceiling now
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Hi liyanakahar,

Is this the common practice in Malaysia for soundproofing?

As to the materials, is there any particular brand / supplier you can recommend for rockwool, MLV and gypsum board?

Thanks!
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post Aug 7 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeap @ Aug 7 2021, 08:15 PM)
I understand  it's a 2 years old post. Anyone  has luck in soundproofing ?

Any recommendation for the contractor  in Penang? Many thanks!
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I’ve asked two contractors and they said it’s not worth the effort and money. On my end, I’ve just contacted my neighbors when it gets too noisy or bang on the ceiling/wall lol. knock.gif Not planning to stay here long term, so have to live with it for now.

Hope you manage to find someone who is knowledgeable in soundproofing. Feel free to share their contact in this thread. smile.gif
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post Aug 9 2021, 11:28 AM

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Ai...finished reading this post and was hoping someone had good references or solution but seems like it's a dead end... Am tired with the neighbor upstairs and talking to management, it does seem like if they are tearing down the house during normal hours, it's perfectly legal for them to do so if they choose to so nothing much we can do......
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post Aug 11 2021, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(mataharih @ Aug 7 2021, 09:02 PM)
I’ve asked two contractors and they said it’s not worth the effort and money. On my end, I’ve just contacted my neighbors when it gets too noisy or bang on the ceiling/wall lol. knock.gif  Not planning to stay here long term, so have to live with it for now.

Hope you manage to find someone who is knowledgeable in soundproofing. Feel free to share their contact in this thread.  smile.gif
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Hey, just wondering did the contractors share on the effort and fees needed to do the soundproofing? and did they share if the result will be significant even tho I understand it will not be 100%..

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post Aug 11 2021, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(x3dn16 @ Aug 11 2021, 12:02 AM)
Hey, just wondering did the contractors share on the effort and fees needed to do the soundproofing? and did they share if the result will be significant even tho I understand it will not be 100%..
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Unfortunately, they didn’t give me a quotation. One contractor wasn’t very knowledgeable about the materials needed and the other just stated it wasn’t worth the effort because it would just dampen the noise slightly. I think one of the comments by liyanakahar has already given the materials needed…the problem is getting a contractor who knows what he’s doing.

I’m guessing someone who is knowledgeable about renovating an office would know better since they need to soundproof rooms for meetings and stuff.

This post has been edited by mataharih: Aug 11 2021, 12:30 AM
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post Aug 21 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeap @ Aug 7 2021, 08:15 PM)
I understand  it's a 2 years old post. Anyone  has luck in soundproofing ?

Any recommendation for the contractor  in Penang? Many thanks!
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Bro...did you find any in pg?
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post Sep 26 2021, 04:11 PM

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I have abundant of used conveyors belts.

I am planning to

1. Lay a layer on top of current floor tiles, then hard tiles on top of the rubber conveyors. Kind of tired to remind the kids and visitors about running around (stopping noises to downstairs). Its also a big mental burden. This might be a great help. Any comments?

2. Glue and screw the rubber belts on the ceiling.
And then install plaster ceiling to reduce noise from above. They like to drop heavy stuffs on the floor during midnights. From the thread it seems this will not be of a great help. But multiple layers of plaster ceiling might just be too costly. Any thoughts?

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