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post Aug 9 2007, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(alamort @ Aug 9 2007, 09:38 AM)
mob turtlebeach win the blizcon tournament undefeated 12-0,
thats explain hunter class on high end 5v5 arenas,
i guess,

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post Aug 9 2007, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(alamort @ Aug 9 2007, 09:38 AM)
mob turtlebeach win the blizcon tournament undefeated 12-0,
thats explain hunter class on high end 5v5 arenas,
i guess,

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look on the global ladders, or hell, just US ladders alone will do

out of the top lists, theres over 40 warrior and a 2nd close pallies, then follow up by 30ish warlock/priests

rogues and hunters... theres only 2? hunters and 1 or was it 2 rogues.

THAT explains more.
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:24 AM

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hunters are on par on rogues if not even worse when it comes to high end pvp/5v5 arenas. they take so much dmg but the dmg they do to others is piss poor at best. coupled in the fast paced movements, LOS and range checks, and deadzones, once hunter falls into any of the above listed, hes useless. the only redemption is beast spec, for 15 seconds you become "not useless". then once beastial iwinbutton fades, ur worse than marksman/survival hunters, its almost as if their just waiting to die.


mob turtlebeach win the blizcon tournament undefeated 12-0 with hunter in their matrix,

am only guessing cause i dont play hi level 5v5 arena,

but isnt it blizcon consist of top ladder from each battleground compete in region eu, us, korea before compete each other for world title?

i got no motive, just didnt agree that hunter class are that worse in hi level arena at the moment while they are actually in the world no1. team now.

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post Aug 9 2007, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(alamort @ Aug 9 2007, 11:24 AM)
mob turtlebeach win the blizcon tournament undefeated 12-0 with hunter in their matrix,

am only guessing cause i dont play hi level 5v5 arena,

but isnt it blizcon consist of top ladder from each battleground compete in region eu, us, korea before compete each other for world title?

i got no motive, just didnt agree that hunter class are that worse in hi level arena at the moment while they are actually in the world no1. team now.

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not really, you need to be the top 1%? to be able to qualify for the qualifying rounds, and during there you will have a match up and later on get invited to blizzcon IIRC.

and the current blizzcon tourney have way too many warriors, the hunter can simply ice trap and unless BOF is up, they will be rendered useless. if you wanna continue to argue, ill just point this simple point to you:

you see any rogues in the blizzcon tourney? nitrana from teampandemic is on the bench, if you count him in.

and the blizzcon tourney isnt as top tier when you factor in wsvg and cgs.

bottom line: ONE special ass hunter is enough to justify them not being piss poor in high end arenas? vs the amasses of warrior/paladin/warlock/priests being in the top tier ladders and is the most used class in hell, blizzcon tourney, now that we're on that topic.

and bear in mind, im not a hunter, and im in no way siding with hunters, simpathy to them, perhaps. only merely stating facts and whats going on.

ps: you still couldnt point out rogues not being the lowest if not on par with hunters in the high end pvp, and i started this with rogues in mind, not hunters mind you.
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I have a hunter too. I feel your pain too.
Stoopid pillars and LOS issues. Im surv spec and have like 1965AP n 30% crit but it do crappy dmg against those pally/war stacking resilence like mad.
I still can kill clothies fairly easy though.

The world no1 team hunter received ZERO dmg on the match. Yes, ZERO dmg.
I saw the screenshot in the Elitistjerks.com forums.
The opposite team just ignored their hunter and aimed for their healer.
Its stupid enough to ignore a hunter. They make a huge difference if they were left alone.
Slow on melees, drain n pet interrupting healers.

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QUOTE(Goblinsk8er @ Aug 9 2007, 12:23 PM)
I have a hunter too. I feel your pain too.
Stoopid pillars and LOS issues. Im surv spec and have like 1965AP n 30% crit but it do crappy dmg against those pally/war stacking resilence like mad.
I still can kill clothies fairly easy though.

The world no1 team hunter received ZERO dmg on the match. Yes, ZERO dmg.
I saw the screenshot in the Elitistjerks.com forums.
The opposite team just ignored their hunter and aimed for their healer.
Its stupid enough to ignore a hunter. They make a huge difference if they were left alone.
Slow on melees, drain n pet interrupting healers.
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hunters are on par on rogues if not even worse when it comes to high end pvp/5v5 arenas. they take so much dmg but the dmg they do to others is piss poor at best. coupled in the fast paced movements, LOS and range checks, and deadzones, once hunter falls into any of the above listed, hes useless. the only redemption is beast spec, for 15 seconds you become "not useless". then once beastial iwinbutton fades, ur worse than marksman/survival hunters, its almost as if their just waiting to die.

zero dmg? gg for ignoring the hunter. they are one of the most easiest class to kill/rape in arenas (despite mail) and once ur on their face, they can HARDLY dps anymore. they got a choice, stand still and shoot a target within their range outside of deadzone, but this means bending over for surprise buttsecks, or attempt to start running away which means almost zero dps, and you still gonna die because ur not gonna move far thanks to snares, just that you survive longer, and/or buy time for ur teammate to rescue you.

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oh yea, ur ap/crit means NOTHING if ur under 300 resil smile.gif

unless you take pride in owning scrubs with sub 200 resils lol...

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how did end up talking about arenas rather than WotLK? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(myremi @ Aug 9 2007, 02:00 PM)
how did end up talking about arenas rather than WotLK? tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2007, 02:42 PM

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bottom line: ONE special ass hunter is enough to justify them not being piss poor in high end arenas? vs the amasses of warrior/paladin/warlock/priests being in the top tier ladders and is the most used class in hell, blizzcon tourney, now that we're on that topic.

and bear in mind, im not a hunter, and im in no way siding with hunters, simpathy to them, perhaps. only merely stating facts and whats going on.

ps: you still couldnt point out rogues not being the lowest if not on par with hunters in the high end pvp, and i started this with rogues in mind, not hunters mind you.


why not? the different between the matrix in final games is priest vs hunter, and the hunter team win. and beat the so called masses of war/priest/pally/lock team on their journey to final.

im not a hunter either, and i sympathy rogue more...at least hunter community can enjoice they have their representative on no1 world team now while rogue are still searching theirs (while trying to bring the other class down to their level lol, sometimes lower tongue.gif) biggrin.gif.

sorry didnt know that pandemic rogue are on bench during the tourney, (?) i shoulda read more. (tongue.gif)


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QUOTE(myremi @ Aug 9 2007, 02:00 PM)
how did end up talking about arenas rather than WotLK? tongue.gif
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hehe doh.gif sorry
peace icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(alamort @ Aug 9 2007, 02:42 PM)
why not? the different between the matrix in final games is priest vs hunter, and the hunter team win. and beat the so called masses of war/priest/pally/lock team on their journey to final.

im not a hunter either, and i sympathy rogue more...at least hunter community can enjoice they have their representative on no1 world team now while rogue are still searching theirs (while trying to bring the other class down to their level lol, sometimes lower tongue.gif) biggrin.gif.

sorry didnt know that pandemic rogue are on bench during the tourney, (?)  i shoulda read more. (tongue.gif)


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hehe  doh.gif sorry
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look at their team:
http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/bracket-wow.shtml

warrior + paladin + x healer and x = shaman

bloodlust + windfury + blessing of freedom on a warrior.

then add in their hunter was left alone.

come on, just because ONE hunter was on the blizzcon tourney, it makes their class ok? seriously. its just like saying warlocks are not OP'ed because one warlock just happened to get ganked and wtfpwned while the others are reigning supreme in the pvp world.

as for the hunter community rejoicing... lol thats a REALLY good one.

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http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/characte...gath&n=Lucilius

5v5 and 2v2 only played a small %, and of all the games played in those arena brackets, win ratio low.

3v3 he played all of them, good win ratio, but arena rating 17xx... gg?

i think this says more about the hunter class than anything.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 10 2007, 01:53 PM
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post Aug 9 2007, 08:50 PM

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For updated and follow ups on WotLK u guys can check out http://www.mmo-champion.com/ .

http://www.pvpscene.com/ for PVP stuffs.

Nice webbie. Cheers biggrin.gif
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