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TSimperialrealcs
post Jun 30 2020, 12:32 PM, updated 5d ago

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Hi, currently im using SQL Accounting on Windows 10 which acts as a server hosting the SQL program.
However lately we are experiencing random drop of connection after we added new PCs which from 15 to 25 now.
Programmer ask us to change the server to Windows Server 2016 Essential which allow up to 25 connections and mentioned the CAL.
however i search online the info is scarce and i found out CAL only if you need to access server function.
Does my terminal which access the win10 server using CAL to access the program?

sorry abit confused on this issue
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post Jun 30 2020, 12:34 PM

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Sure nothing to do with network issue ? Ie 2.4 ghz WiFi
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post Jun 30 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chengi @ Jun 30 2020, 12:34 PM)
Sure nothing to do with network issue ? Ie 2.4 ghz WiFi
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all running ethernet 100mbps cat5e although is quite old.
but im more interested to know about the limitation of windows 10 as program host.
they said got limit is that true?
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post Jul 4 2020, 06:59 PM

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There is a limit of 20 concurrent connection on windows 10
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post Jul 4 2020, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Chengi @ Jul 4 2020, 06:59 PM)
There is a limit of 20 concurrent connection on windows 10
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lets say i got a windows 10 server sharing a db for SQL accounting.
i can only have max 20 terminals that can access the db at a same time. is that right?

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post Jul 5 2020, 07:52 AM

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There are no CAL involved with Windows 10. That only applies to Windows Server. There is no legal or technical way to increase those limits on Windows 10.
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post Jul 5 2020, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Jul 5 2020, 07:52 AM)
There are no CAL involved with Windows 10. That only applies to Windows Server. There is no legal or technical way to increase those limits on Windows 10.
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understood but my main concern is, does windows 10 only accept max 20 PC connection at a same time? what's the limit as in usage for that? u got any details?

i.e. the 20 connection limit by devices? or number of connection? or etc?
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post Jul 5 2020, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jul 5 2020, 09:15 AM)
understood but my main concern is, does windows 10 only accept max 20 PC connection at a same time? what's the limit as in usage for that? u got any details?

i.e. the 20 connection limit by devices? or number of connection? or etc?
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https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/d33de0fe-ba31-459a-8a43-201875c9ebe0/max-concurrent-connection-limit-on-windows-10-license-servers?forum=win10itpronetworking
Based on what I can find, it looks like network connection. Not PC. A PC may open multiple network connection when connecting to a computer.
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post Jul 5 2020, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Jul 5 2020, 10:09 AM)
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/d33de0fe-ba31-459a-8a43-201875c9ebe0/max-concurrent-connection-limit-on-windows-10-license-servers?forum=win10itpronetworking
Based on what I can find, it looks like network connection. Not PC. A PC may open multiple network connection when connecting to a computer.
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i've read about this but one of the poster wrote this:
"The EULA clearly states the limit is 20 *devices* NOT TCP connections, and it's only a limit on devices connected to "file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services"

so in my case im hosting a file (which is a database) on a win10pro server. which service am i actually using?
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post Jul 5 2020, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Jul 5 2020, 10:09 AM)
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/d33de0fe-ba31-459a-8a43-201875c9ebe0/max-concurrent-connection-limit-on-windows-10-license-servers?forum=win10itpronetworking
Based on what I can find, it looks like network connection. Not PC. A PC may open multiple network connection when connecting to a computer.
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterms/Re..._10_English.htm

Device connections. You may allow up to 20 other devices to access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of using the following software features: file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.

on the bolded part, it seems that my usage is not capped?
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post Jul 5 2020, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jul 5 2020, 08:07 PM)
i've read about this but one of the poster wrote this:
"The EULA clearly states the limit is 20 *devices* NOT TCP connections, and it's only a limit on devices connected to "file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services"

so in my case im hosting a file (which is a database) on a win10pro server. which service am i actually using?
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If your user needs to read a file directly from a shared folder in order to run the program, it would fall under file services.

If you use an IP address and port number to connect to the database, you should be outside of the limitation. The database would be the one reading the file directly and serving out via it own service.

Unless you know to monitor the network connections to PC acting a server, proving it would be an issue.
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post Jul 6 2020, 12:19 AM

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why don't you subscribe to cloud windows server? it doesn't requires additional license anyway
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post Jul 6 2020, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(Chengi @ Jul 6 2020, 12:19 AM)
why don't you subscribe to cloud windows server? it doesn't requires additional license anyway
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our building is an old building with unreliable internet connection. basically anything related with cloud will not be considered and also the subscription probably cost more.
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post Jul 7 2020, 12:42 PM

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ok, why don't u try windows 2019? you would have 180 grace period and i think it would be more than sufficient for your testing
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post Jul 7 2020, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Chengi @ Jul 7 2020, 12:42 PM)
ok, why don't u try windows 2019? you would have 180 grace period and i think it would be more than sufficient for your testing
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then i have to reformat or install on new drive. everything have to setup again because that server acts as file sharing server too

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post Jul 9 2020, 05:08 AM

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after, u need to just key in the license key and activate the windows servers to continue to use.
clarify 180 days grace period

 

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