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Bank OTP not received, Bank system problem?
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TSAmideva
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Jun 23 2020, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Jun 23 2020, 09:11 AM) Using TAC via SMS is the most convenient to majority of users as most of us carry our phone all the time. Some banks use hardware token and allow users to choose either sms or pin generated by this token for most banking transactions. I know of at least one bank in Sg that requires a hardware token plus hp sms combo if you perform a more "risky" transaction like adding new favourite payee or sthg like that. The issue with TAC usage in Msia is they are not very reliable when it comes to receiving the sms with tac. As with most things here, we've come to accept it as it is. I've personally lost the opportunity to purchase ASNB unit trusts online a few times because the TAC never came or arrived after time-outs. Glad you shared. Another user that experienced the TAC or OTP that never came. Guys, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying it’s not useful. It is... but as the above writer says... well, the sms coming in need to be improved.
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TSAmideva
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Jun 23 2020, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 23 2020, 09:24 AM) Not all faults lies with bank. Telco is also a partner. Receiver location is also important. That’s possible too. But in my friend’s case, it’s not.
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mushigen
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Jun 23 2020, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 23 2020, 09:24 AM) Not all faults lies with bank. Telco is also a partner. Receiver location is also important. I don't know whose fault it is. As for receiver location, we can only depend on the signal strength indicator of our phone. SMS has existed since the first time I got a mobile phone in the nineties. I'd expect it to be the most reliable method of receiving messages. As I said, the general consensus is "take it or leave it" when it comes to demanding reliable banking service. For example, whenever someone complains how angry he is because the internet banking of Bank A was down without advance notice when he had to do a transaction, he would be chided for demanding 100% uptime.
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azbro
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Jun 23 2020, 12:24 PM
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My old phone samsung phone also same, ever since send to explace battery and reflash, difficult to get OTP. After off, then on, only the OTP some in.
Now before I do transaction I will Off on my phone so that can get OTP SMS easier.
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Zot
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Jun 23 2020, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 23 2020, 11:59 AM) Bank 1 is HSBC ke? I also think its a hassle to login with OTP. Bank 1 is AmBank, and I think CIMB and probably others too. Bank 2 is Maybank
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Zot
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Jun 23 2020, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Amideva @ Jun 23 2020, 11:57 AM) I agree. Good example. That’s what I’m saying abt using phone OTP for too many things. When phone or sms problem, everything cannot be done. Luckily it is very rare case for me.
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mushigen
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Jun 23 2020, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(lahart @ Jun 23 2020, 09:29 AM) As usual msia only know to blame the bank As usual, Malaysians accept poor service and worse, self justify it. The banking communicates with the telco. Nobody knows what runs behind the scene unless he is in this field. If Lazada or Shopee or any merchant fails to process your credit card refunds after certain deadline, do you complain to the bank or Lazada? As a customer of Lazada or Shopee, do you need to know their refund system works?
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ry8128
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Jun 23 2020, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 23 2020, 12:27 PM) Bank 1 is AmBank, and I think CIMB and probably others too. Bank 2 is Maybank Ah, icic. Thanks. Cimb no, as i am using it. No nid otp to login. But hsbc yes, damn troublesome. They give a security device which we have to bring everywhere if we want to login.
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Zot
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Jun 23 2020, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jun 23 2020, 12:31 PM) Ah, icic. Thanks. Cimb no, as i am using it. No nid otp to login. But hsbc yes, damn troublesome. They give a security device which we have to bring everywhere if we want to login. I forget about the CIMB login, but I remember that transfer money to favorite list still need TAC. I'm no more using CIMB since the company is now using AmBank ( even more rare location  ) I transfer monthly salary to my Maybank  . More accessible
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lahart
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Jun 23 2020, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Amideva @ Jun 23 2020, 11:55 AM) I have already stated. Everything has pros and cons, only a matter of more pros or more cons. In my opinion my statement that some banks let you choose is indeed the best solution... at least that’s my opinion. Then ask ur so call friend to change bank The bank won't change jus coz of 1 fussy customer Not everything revolve around you and your fren
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mrdokok
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Jun 23 2020, 02:00 PM
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my bank islam always become this..use onexox..use maybank no problem..then use bank islam again no problem..maybank more powerful push OTP maybe
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tzarain
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Jun 23 2020, 02:48 PM
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encountered this yesterday when I want to top-up my Grab credits. Using online banking, keep failing which maybe due to Grab. Then I tried using Visa/MC, got to the Secure Code page, wait2 for Code but never came. Ask my friend to SMS me, and I can receive immediately. Could it be got issue with SMS Gateway?
I restart my phone then the SMSes came thru but the number from Maybank was +45 20 20 66 33 and not the normal 5 digit. Weird.
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touristking
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Jun 23 2020, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Amideva @ Jun 23 2020, 12:14 AM) What you say about paywave is true. That’s why I don’t use it. Too much security, on the other hand, poses other issues. Anyway I don’t believe in relying on the phone for everything. One thing, when you lose your handphone, that’s it. You can’t do anything until you get a replacement SIM card. They could use a secondary question for login or a token. There are some banks whereby you can choose the type of secondary security to use after the initial login. With traditional banking, you lost anything. You have to go the bank personally. With online banking, you lost phone, get a replacement SIM and you are good to go. Telco will only give you replacement SIM if you are the actual owner. Which is easier for you? Go to bank or go to Telco?
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touristking
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Jun 23 2020, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(lahart @ Jun 23 2020, 01:57 AM) Ppl will still complaint the extra question to log in is a hassle Token? Ppl complain it an extra burden to carry around Human nature will always misplace stuff Then will open thread in /k complaint how stupid the system is I read your reply and I haven't seen any brilliant solution I once have problem with OTP from one particular bank. Bank couldn't resolve it. So change bank.
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TSAmideva
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Jun 23 2020, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 23 2020, 05:16 PM) With traditional banking, you lost anything. You have to go the bank personally. With online banking, you lost phone, get a replacement SIM and you are good to go. Telco will only give you replacement SIM if you are the actual owner. Which is easier for you? Go to bank or go to Telco? If you actually loses your phone, you need to go to both.
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TSAmideva
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Jun 23 2020, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(lahart @ Jun 23 2020, 01:42 PM) Then ask ur so call friend to change bank The bank won't change jus coz of 1 fussy customer Not everything revolve around you and your fren You’re probably not aware of risk management and customer service. For banking industry, issues like this are high priority. If there’s an issue with the security of banks, they will take it seriously even if it’s just one case because they want to know how extensive is the issue. It’s good to share whenever we hv these issues to create public awareness and to help one another. The purpose is never to rant and complaint only but it serves to improve the overall service of the banks. For example, it’s good that someone compare between banks and we can see that from our experience with certain banks, we know that their service level is better and don’t rely too much on OTPs or TACs for every thing. Practices of different banks vary and by sharing these knowledge, we’ll be able to choose our preferences. At the same time, be able to recommend positive changes to our banks. Thanks to all for sharing. Enough of this thread. Bye. This post has been edited by Amideva: Jun 23 2020, 07:23 PM
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kltan1999
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Jun 24 2020, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Jun 23 2020, 09:40 AM) the clue is :- set receiver phone to airplane mode, and off it again to refresh the network. then use another phone , send dummy sms to the OTP receiver number, this can "unstuck" incoming SMS from 5 digit premium number and at the same time ensure that the receiver number is fully functional to receive SMS. how it work? don't ask me, it's magic. if it doesn't work, then pretty much it's bank side issue, not telco anymore. yes this method work most of time my otp also always delay and received late / expired this is telco problem until I figure out to use the on airplane mode and off back to push for the sms
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lahart
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Jul 2 2020, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Amideva @ Jun 23 2020, 07:09 PM) You’re probably not aware of risk management and customer service. For banking industry, issues like this are high priority. If there’s an issue with the security of banks, they will take it seriously even if it’s just one case because they want to know how extensive is the issue. It’s good to share whenever we hv these issues to create public awareness and to help one another. The purpose is never to rant and complaint only but it serves to improve the overall service of the banks. For example, it’s good that someone compare between banks and we can see that from our experience with certain banks, we know that their service level is better and don’t rely too much on OTPs or TACs for every thing. Practices of different banks vary and by sharing these knowledge, we’ll be able to choose our preferences. At the same time, be able to recommend positive changes to our banks. Thanks to all for sharing. Enough of this thread. Bye. If only the bank ceo was in /k
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