very technical answer.

Pro sia...

I will reply point by point to your post ok ?
Any sim card will work but not for his old sim card as stated by him right ? He do mention that he change to 3G sim card then only the blue 3G icon appear.

K800/K810 video call camera is only 0.1MP if I'm not mistaken.

It is possible to use the 3.2MP lens to show the another half of the video call user.

FYI, K800 and K810i snapping video only at 176*144 not 320*240 as stated by you. And K800/810 not using Carl Zeiss lens.

uhm, 1 more question, after so loong I took so many pics
now only I realize
the video file and photo file
actually sharing the same numbering right?
like my current photo is on DSC000037,
then the next file I shoot on video, it will become MOV000038.
Any way to seperate it like W800i did?

apart frm my phone explorer wat other software can allow you to access yr messages? i want 2 clear my messages one shot la...and this phone explorer software does not detect my phone...stupid.pls help..thx

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Added on August 22, 2007, 8:44 pmapart frm my phone explorer wat other software can allow you to access yr messages? i want 2 clear my messages one shot la...and this phone explorer software does not detect my phone...stupid.pls help..thx

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Added on August 22, 2007, 8:44 pmapart frm my phone explorer wat other software can allow you to access yr messages? i want 2 clear my messages one shot la...and this phone explorer software does not detect my phone...stupid.pls help..thx

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Added on August 22, 2007, 8:50 pmwhy u guys can take pic till so nice?? y weneva i take it always blur...?? feel so sad how to take pics without it bein so blur??and how to take night vision? wen i use night vision, cant c anythin.....even with flash...sigh...

This post has been edited by wartevar: Aug 22 2007, 08:50 PM

Umm. Mind me asking. Whats the current market price for this phone? Thinking of ditching my N70 for this one.

slide the camera lens, press on shutter until focus, then snap lo
uhm, for night mode, I simply cannot take nice picture with Twilight Landscape mode also, hand keep shaking

Why hand keep shaking? u ... too much arrrr?

dont la go publicize it
hahah
maybe ate too much chicken leg (the old 1 said so)
btw, does the Twilight Landscape mode really helps during night scene?

practise more leh , then can take good shots .

hi , can u post your pic here??
can we compare with your pic

Yea, a little. There's still noises around. But better than my previous n73, blue haze

Press half for focus then when the green box appear only press till end. That's the way to a clear , decent photo

my phone is on R1KG001 now
but when I search for update, it says its the latest 1
apa macam o?

Hey there,

Yes, in this case an old SIM card, a pre-GPRS or EDGE one will not work. I'm sorry that I might have overlook his post. But I meant to mention the popular discussion around here with regards to a normal SIM and an USIM. Then again, your explanation holds some truth.

I'm not sure video call is a 0.1MP or a 0.3MP (330K). Maybe I should hit the google for some information. But its definitely not 3.2MP as the impression gives you if you choose to use the primary camera at the backside of the phone. I only care to explain that to the masses.

You got me right at that point that K800/810 only does video at 176x144. I'm sorry about that and I have overlook the specifications, again. But at the same time I did not say K800/810 is using Carl Zeiss lens either. This is what I said:

There's no special lens here in the K800/810, but I doubt Carl Zeiss lens would do any difference on a phone.

I did say K800/810 isn't using any special lens here and still there is no difference in 3G video call image quality. I did doubt that a Nokia comparative model with Carl Zeiss lens would do any better too. Anyway their front cameras aren't Carl Zeiss anyway.

Since we're at the topic of signature lenses, how does the K800/810 camera fair compared to a similar one of Nokia with Carl Zeiss lens, LG with Schneider, etc? Don't get me wrong, K800/810's camera quality is top notch and an industry standard and guess what? Its not using any signature lens. What's important here is in-camera post processing methods and approaches. Methods and approaches with regards to exposure and the many parameters of camera photography. Do remember here that Sony and as a result Sony Ericsson do have experiences with consumer cameras and their recently acquired Konica Minolta's camera division.

Putting signature lenses to the presence of camera phones are a natural thing to do. It gives good impression to the users. DSLR cameras and optical instruments have been exposed to these lenses, why not putting these names to consumer phones, consumer cameras even if they do little improvement? Next we will have signature console gaming on consumer phones.

p/s: Anyway I'm not posting to agree or disagree with you. I just thought I could share. Not hard feelings. :-)

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Added on August 23, 2007, 8:20 amHey wartever,

If you're trying to take an object not close to the camera lens, check that the following is true:

Macro focusing disabled
Scene mode not set to DOCUMENTS. Try AUTO

If you're trying to take an object that is close to the camera lens, check that the following is true:

Macro focusing is enabled OR
Scene mode set to DOCUMENTS.

The K800/810 camera button is a 2-step one. The first one or half-pressing it would do the focusing and further pressing it will take the shot. Before taking a picture, always half-pressing it to focus. Wait for the frame or the crosshair to turn green or wait for the beep to sound. Once that is done, focusing is obtained and you can re-compose the picture. Do not change the distance from your camera to the object, for example moving backward or forward. If you do that, focusing will be lost and you'll have to do it again. Once that is done, take the picture.

If you care on taking photography in low light condition for example night shots. Note that using the flash will always light up the subject but sacrificed the background and hence you see nothing behind it. Thats because using a normal flash would speed up the camera shutter speed and not a lot of light goes through the shutter fast enough. Try using NIGHT LANDSCAPE or comparable and use the flash to light up your subject. That way you'll get good exposure for subject and a little improvement in exposing the background.

If the light is enough to expose your subject, disabling the flash and try using either NIGHT LANDSCAPE or AUTO mode. Disabling the flash will slow down the shutter speed to compensate for light lost. As a result you'll get more light through the lens but at the risk of camera shake.

Hope this helps.

This post has been edited by davidmak: Aug 23 2007, 08:20 AM

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Too lazy to read so damn long post. Maybe you should have this style called KISS (Keep it Short and Simple.)

Haha. Sorry for being too artistic then. Some do some don't. Point noted and I'll assume your side too. Keep the ego cool and smooth. Cheers!

Well, you are giving a very good point for 1st post (not sure for 2nd post as I lazy read it). It's a very informative post

ya i using DiGi...... lol......if there a difference?

k810i still no firmware upgrade? k800's latest firmware comes with an extra game!