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Ramjade
post Jan 30 2021, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Jan 30 2021, 04:11 PM)
how the return of affin vs eastspring fund?
which 1 more worht?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 30 2021, 04:21 PM)
Simple™ is projected return of 2.4% pa.
Unverified source mentioned earlier that SAMY is subsiding the projected return.
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Versa said their 2.46% don't know how accurate.
Ramjade
post Jan 30 2021, 10:32 PM

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I have always like Versa before Stashaway simple. This is because faster withdrawal time. Glad finally it's live.
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post Jan 31 2021, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 11:51 AM)
any money market funds in singapore that is easily accessible to malaysians who have sg account? so far money only in sg bank account doing ntg, and im not ready to go into higher risk investments there yet.
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Stashaway simple must have passport or account cannot be used.
Endowus cash. Must have minimum sgd10k inside at all time.
Alternatively buy psudo bond stocks like parkway Life REIT.

Don't bother with sg MMF. Use the money to invest.
Ramjade
post Jan 31 2021, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 01:26 PM)
sounds like the most convenient way? malaysia passport ok right?
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Yes.
Ramjade
post Jan 31 2021, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Jan 31 2021, 01:50 PM)
yes i use betterment much more better yield
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Betterment is only for us people. Unless you have us address or social security number you cannot open betterment account.

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All customers must be at least 18 years of age in order to consent to all our agreements. Customers must have a permanent U.S. address, a U.S. Social Security Number or an ITIN, and a checking account from a U.S. bank.


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post Jan 31 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jan 31 2021, 03:08 PM)
what about syfe?
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Syfe does not have money market fund.

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post Jan 31 2021, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jan 31 2021, 09:29 PM)
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Syfe cash+ portfolio invest in money market fund.
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Thanks. Must be new stuff. Never followed them. I know when they started they don't have syfe cash+
Ramjade
post Feb 1 2021, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Feb 1 2021, 06:35 PM)
Hi guys, I'm very new to MMF.
Having my emergency fund parked at PMMMF for more than half year now, due to its liquidity & relatively slight above average returns.

However, the return rate is gradually slipping off ever since 2020.
From the previous posts, it seems that OPR and MMF performance could be relative to each other; may I know how exactly the OPR is affecting MMF the performance?
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If OPR decrease the amount of returns in your MMF also decrease. Vice versa. If you want it to be simple.
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post Feb 2 2021, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(kino318 @ Feb 2 2021, 04:49 PM)
I not sure why stashaway require valid passport.
my passport expired, but i hv no plan to renew my passport, they disable my ac and force me to sell and withdraw my stashaway investment.
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Normal. Last time I tried with IC, they told me Malaysia IC not valid. Already deposit money. Have to withdraw. I never use stashaway for investing just for parking money.

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Feb 2 2021, 04:53 PM)
wow seriously?
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Yup. Normal stuff. Some stupid MAS requirement shit.

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post Feb 4 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(eeesiang @ Feb 4 2021, 11:37 AM)
Thanks for the replies.
Like I mentioned, I'm very new to MMF. If you ask me, I think barely know about the implication of OPR.
Tried my best to understand the concept, but it's still very abstract to me.
I'm not a professional in finance, economy, you see. The product fact-sheet is filled with finance-jargons. That's why I am asking.

Thanks to you, I manage to know that MMF allocation consists of interest-imposed products available in bank.
Btw, what's TIA?  sweat.gif My search results are not helpful at all.  rclxub.gif 
And it seems that the amount of returns from those products was determined by OPR, I presume.

May I know if all the following products/instruments depending on OPR as well?

Asset allocation: Primarily in government / government-backed securities, bills of exchange, negotiable certificate of deposits, promissory notes,
call deposits and other short-term government/ bank-backed securities and money market instruments.

Section Allocation as at 31st Dec 2020:
100% Cash, The Fund invest in Short-term Money Market Instruments and Placement in Short-term Deposit only


May I know what's the significance of different weightage of cash/bond in a MMF product?
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If opr goes down, bond yield (but price goes up), fixed deposit interest, loan interest, savings account interest all drop.

Since mmf invest in FD and bonds, if interest rate drop, MMF is getting paid back lesser. Hence return in MMF also drop.

Opr is basically central bank interest rate. Dropping interest rate is thought to stimulate the economy as debt now become cheaper which means company save more by getting cheap debt. The savings use can be use to expand business.

Of course if interest rate drop, savers lose. You don't even need to know the details of it or how or why it happend. Just know that opr drop, all interest drop. Less headache.

Amount of cash is important. Cash doesn't give any interest. Hence the more cash a unit trust keep, the lesser the return as you are keeping something which does not increase overtime.

I have no background in finance or economy but this simple stuff is simple. Just keep it simple.

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post Feb 16 2021, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 16 2021, 11:06 AM)
Too early to comment on returns laugh.gif my reason for migration is the faster withdrawal and the fortnightly dividends are more attractive to me. I prefer the liquidity of Versa over SASimple, because I'm using MMF as an additional place to park emergency savings.

Since I don't DCA from SASimple, there's no particular reason to keep it in Simple.

Edit to add: based on reading Bloomberg analysis PRUISIN (SA Simple) performed better than HWAEDEP (Versa) in YTD, 1y, 3y, and 5y return, so take that as you will.
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I thought is the other way around. Affin was giving 2.46 and Eastspring was giving 1.8x%
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post Feb 20 2021, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 20 2021, 10:14 PM)
Hi GrumpyNooby,

i remember you used to show us latest Phillip Master Money Market  monthly return,
any idea what is the latest rate now and where to get them? Thanks
Forget about Phillip already. I dump it for Stashaway simple then Versa.

If you will want Phillip can get from official site. Scroll to the bottom.
It's 1.77%p.a
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/

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post Feb 20 2021, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 20 2021, 10:25 PM)
Thanks Ramjade,

money for short term parking only.
Stashaway is good for that? liquidity like PMMF?
Is opening account easy? Return pa ?%
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I now use versa only. Last return on the app mentiond fund give 2.46%p.a On website said 2.4%. Very decent.

Stashaway is slow.
Versa is faster in withdrawal.
Not sure about liquidity for versa. Going to test soon. It's basically T+1 day.

Account opening is very easy. All from app.

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post Feb 21 2021, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2021, 12:00 AM)
I  checked out StashAway  thread, opened Account,i used desktop website.
dumped RM50k ,max from Jompay,
payout monthly, calculated daily not bad

T+3D, means on Thursday 25.2.21 i can see my deposit online?

I noticed StashAway used Citibank, so for faster time to receive the withdrawal money which bank (other than Citibank)
is better, any one?

(My experience with eUT PMMF, Maybank is the best, consistently received money by 5.00pm same day)
Versa payout weekly and Liquidity T+1 is better than StashAway, return  same?

Now gonna check out Versa.
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Anything about versa is they give overnight rates. Which means when your money is stuck in limbo (between fpx and versa) you still get paid.
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post Feb 21 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Feb 20 2021, 11:22 PM)
Public Mutual Money Market fund?

PUBLIC e-ENHANCED MONEY MARKET
PUBLIC e-CASH DEPOSIT
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Any service charge?
What's the return?
How fast is he liquidaty?

QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Feb 21 2021, 08:56 AM)
Guys. Im invested in UT, PRS, share market. But i dont get to understand what is money market? Any layman's term?
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Money money fund think of it as high interest savings account.
They invest in FD, govt bonds and short term bonds 1-3 months to give you higher interest than normal FD (around promo FD rates without the lockup and penalty like FD)

Unlike saving account where you can get instant withdrawal with mmf,you need to wait 1-3days. Depending on funds.

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post Feb 21 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2021, 09:29 AM)
Thanks for the info, so Versa is  like  SA return 2.4% with better liquidity and daily interest

where can i read about Versa in here, cant find the dedicated thread.

I find it safer to use link provided in here  rather than search in google .

Money market  sure get alot more attention now FD so low
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Addition overnight interest when money is in limbo.

Here you go.
https://versa.com.my/
Upon signing up you will get email from both versa and affin hwang.

I have always use mmf VS FD cause I like the liquidity that MMF give.


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post Feb 21 2021, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Feb 21 2021, 07:06 PM)
Thanks, already opened account with Versa on mobile Apps, Versa not accessible via Website?

Unlike Stashaway, Versa cannot make deposit straight away, must wait so many days!

Besides  deposit Versa via FPX, can we deposit via JOMPAy like we can do for Stashaway?
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No website available. Unfortunately.
I use a separate phone for banking.

Can. Once account approved. Today Sunday. Wait for account to be approved (check your email). If not approved yet, of course cannot. I had to wait for my account to be approved.

Only FPX available.
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post Mar 12 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 12 2021, 09:38 AM)
Yes another expected 0.0009 per unit payout again

Gonna withdraw fully after this to standby to buy dips soon  rclxms.gif
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Next crash maybe next year already.
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post Mar 12 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Mar 12 2021, 11:03 AM)
How much you normally keep around as spare bullets?
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If you have nothing to buy, just keep cash.
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post Mar 24 2021, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 24 2021, 09:18 AM)
Source: online

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1.35% is damn low.

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