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TSIcyDarling
post May 13 2020, 11:45 AM, updated 6y ago

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Why got concept like agreed value and market value when u do total loss claim rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Like for example, my sum insured in 2019 is 80k, then this year quotation came for 2020 is still 80k. But when total loss before renew insurance, they say market value only 70k bangwall.gif
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post May 13 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:45 AM)
Why got concept like agreed value and market value when u do total loss claim  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Like for example, my sum insured in 2019 is 80k, then this year quotation came for 2020 is still 80k. But when total loss before renew insurance, they say market value only 70k  bangwall.gif
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you should lodge a dispute. insurance companies are like banks. legal ah longs.
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post May 13 2020, 11:48 AM

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thats where agreed value come in.
if you buy based on agreed value, then youh 80k will be compensated with 80k
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post May 13 2020, 11:49 AM

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does your motor insurance cover note stated agreed value? if it is stated then if claim arises, due to theft or total loss, the company should pay on agreed value.
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post May 13 2020, 11:54 AM

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when issue you agreed value you say your car not worth that much. want lower premium. when got something happen, then ask why so low
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post May 13 2020, 11:54 AM

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always buy agreed value...
not so rugi although the premium is slightly higher
TSIcyDarling
post May 13 2020, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 13 2020, 11:54 AM)
when issue you agreed value you say your car not worth that much. want lower premium. when got something happen, then ask why so low
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So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL

So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol
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post May 13 2020, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM)
So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL

So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol
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do remember if it is market value

you over insure, you pay more premium but anything happens, they pay you market value only
you under insure, you only get paid partially for your claim


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post May 13 2020, 12:03 PM

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Always insure the car value based on their valuation at agreed valued. Then you'll be covered.
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post May 13 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM)
So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL

So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol
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If every year follow proposed sum insured the value does drop. But if last year you ask for lower, then it might show same as this year.

This is how my system looks like.

MSIG Recommended SI:61000 (Agreed value) ISM-ABI Market Value:58000
Reply Date:09/01/2020 01:09:14
Response Code:ABI088 ISM Valuation Successful
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post May 13 2020, 12:20 PM

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I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured.


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post May 13 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ May 13 2020, 11:55 AM)
So ngam my car is under MSIG LOL

So if my insurance is market value, then there is no way to argue with them? This year they proposed sum insured same as last year, make me think my golden butt sit in my car wont decrease value lol
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Unfortunately no way u can argue since u beli sum insured based on market value. If agreed value diff story, insurance must pay accordingly same to your agreed value.

But not all ins offer agreed value. U can compare price and benefits dengan company lain before purchase.

QUOTE(tifosi @ May 13 2020, 12:03 PM)
Always insure the car value based on their valuation at agreed valued. Then you'll be covered.
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True. But not all insurance/takaful operator offer agreed value.

QUOTE(BronzePlate @ May 13 2020, 12:20 PM)
I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured.
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Since detariffication start, all insurance/takaful operator are free to revise their premium and guidelines. Ins premium no longer regulated by gov. Maybe pasal itu got some ins company increase their premium.

Or maybe itu agent suka suka letak valuation sum insured tinggi, higher premium higher commission.

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post May 13 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(BronzePlate @ May 13 2020, 12:20 PM)
I notice pemiums this year are a bit higher compared to last year, even if it's the same sum insured.
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because after deregulation, the insurance company can charge any amount they want and can compete with each other.

usually they are very smart la, will increase step by step so no one notices
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post May 13 2020, 12:31 PM

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If you buy cars that depreciate kaw kaw then you better drive fast and wreck it. No wonder a lot of drivers of expensive cars are fucktards when on the road.
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post May 13 2020, 12:31 PM

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now every insurance different price and can buy direct
agent like me business dying ... please support tq
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 13 2020, 12:29 PM)
But not all ins offer agreed value. U can compare price and benefits dengan company lain before purchase.
True. But not all insurance/takaful operator offer agreed value.
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Most major one does I think. So far I've only dealt with 2 companies, Lonpac and Allianz, both does offer agreed value. Price not much diff, only about 10% of your premium.
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post May 13 2020, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 13 2020, 12:31 PM)
now every insurance different price and can buy direct
agent like me business dying ... please support tq
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looks like many buying thru online due to discount and MCO, maybe you can enlighten us what can we get if buy thru agent?
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post May 13 2020, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ May 13 2020, 01:22 PM)
looks like many buying thru online due to discount and MCO, maybe you can enlighten us what can we get if buy thru agent?
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For my clients I m their agent for their life insurance , medical card, shop insurance, shipping insurance, company vehicle insurance, construction insurance

basically I handle a-z for their insurance matters. 2 months invoicing credit.

then every year will give hamper and voucher
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post May 13 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ahwai @ May 13 2020, 01:48 PM)
For my clients I m their agent for their life insurance , medical card, shop insurance, shipping insurance, company vehicle insurance, construction insurance

basically I handle a-z for their insurance matters. 2 months invoicing credit.

then every year will give hamper and voucher
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Isit true that if buy toyota car with MSIG, then its less hassle to fix at toyota workshop (since MSIG is panel for toyota (?))

What i mean is some insurance company might haggle about what need to fix, how much it should cost etc
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post May 13 2020, 02:05 PM

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i think market value term is new concept.. before this, during claim, insurers will pay a market price, which is usually lower than the coverage value. Nowadays, a term agreed value is used whereby during claim, regardless of market price, insurer will pay based on agreed value. So, customers can get extra money (because agreed value can be higher than market value)

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