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edwin1002
post Aug 5 2021, 11:23 PM

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Trade ETF got free touch n go pin RM100 + RM100 = RM200 (better use direct account)

Take note ya.

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SUSxander83
post Aug 6 2021, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Aug 5 2021, 04:31 PM)
0830EA = 280% return since launch (November 2019).
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Better off buying direct FANG as you would have quadruple or more including the splits which the ETFs has diluted the value doh.gif
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post Aug 7 2021, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Aug 6 2021, 03:28 AM)
Better off buying direct FANG as you would have quadruple or more including the splits which the ETFs has diluted the value  doh.gif
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Oh. It gets diluted? I thought the ETF buys into futures, which to track 2x the stock price / performance.
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post Aug 7 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(SQR @ Aug 7 2021, 10:47 AM)
Oh. It gets diluted? I thought the ETF buys into futures, which to track 2x the stock price / performance.
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That's what I remember as well. However, if you hold it for the long term it won't be 2x anymore but less, 2x is only for short term returns.
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post Aug 7 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(jojojoget @ Aug 7 2021, 12:14 PM)
That's what I remember as well. However, if you hold it for the long term it won't be 2x anymore but less, 2x is only for short term returns.
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It will depend on market direction...

It's 2x daily movement, so in uptrend market it will be more than 2x due to compunding over the time period. Similarly if downtrend, can be more than negative x2.

Worse is highly volatile up n down market..


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post Aug 7 2021, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(jojojoget @ Aug 7 2021, 12:14 PM)
That's what I remember as well. However, if you hold it for the long term it won't be 2x anymore but less, 2x is only for short term returns.
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Ah. Yes yes. Daily rebalancing. Thank you for this!
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post Aug 7 2021, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(SQR @ Aug 7 2021, 10:47 AM)
Oh. It gets diluted? I thought the ETF buys into futures, which to track 2x the stock price / performance.
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More into options than futures because faster liquidity

2x because it is leverage or margin of the stock price movement vice Versa for inversely for opposite directions
edwin1002
post Aug 9 2021, 10:50 AM

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Market got new ETF China100-MYR recently, do not know good or not?
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post Aug 9 2021, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(edwin1002 @ Aug 9 2021, 10:50 AM)
Market got new ETF China100-MYR recently, do not know good or not?
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Have a look at the index performance, it's usually a good way to evaluate new ETFs. Analyze it in terms of past, present and future, understand how the index is constructed, how it used to perform, how it's performing now and what the potential is in the future.

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Cubalagi
post Aug 9 2021, 02:24 PM

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This new ETF is by Value Partners, which is a HK based Fund manager listed on Hkex.

U might wonder why they set up in Malaysia? The Chairman n founder was Penang born Malaysian n they set up operations during PH time.

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post Aug 15 2021, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Aug 7 2021, 07:55 PM)
More into options than futures because faster liquidity

2x because it is leverage or margin of the stock price movement vice Versa for inversely for opposite directions
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Does this mean that they may not be investing based on what is mentioned in the Prospectus? Cause I noticed that they categorise these L&I ETFs as futures-based ETFs.
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post Aug 15 2021, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(SQR @ Aug 15 2021, 09:49 AM)
Does this mean that they may not be investing based on what is mentioned in the Prospectus? Cause I noticed that they categorise these L&I ETFs as futures-based ETFs.
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According to their NAV declaration it's futures contracts: https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3182780
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post Aug 15 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(SQR @ Aug 15 2021, 09:49 AM)
Does this mean that they may not be investing based on what is mentioned in the Prospectus? Cause I noticed that they categorise these L&I ETFs as futures-based ETFs.
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Most likely options with futures contracts pegged into it

Means they are buying and selling calls and put options with an expiry date
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post Aug 15 2021, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Aug 15 2021, 05:19 PM)
Most likely options with futures contracts pegged into it

Means they are buying and selling calls and put options with an expiry date
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No options. Just futures contract..
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post Aug 15 2021, 06:36 PM

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post Aug 15 2021, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(jojojoget @ Aug 15 2021, 12:46 PM)
According to their NAV declaration it's futures contracts: https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3182780
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