QUOTE(TAZIO.N @ May 12 2020, 12:26 PM)
Siapa kata? Kan lps tu Sultan kena buang negeri.British very powderful la,if they don't like that Sultan,they will appoint another people as Sultan like what happened in Terengganu and Selangor...
And Johor.Do you know JWWBirch is actually good guy?, lets remember our nation's hero. 😥
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May 12 2020, 02:52 PM
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May 12 2020, 02:55 PM
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May 12 2020, 03:06 PM
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yelling very cold very cold while bath in the river
but sounds like "mari pukul mari pukul" from far away and the rest is histroy |
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May 12 2020, 03:14 PM
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May 12 2020, 03:15 PM
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We need more discussion like this in school to improve critical thinking. Research and present arguement from both point of view.
Just curious, does this considered as jangan kucing if the kucing from the past ? Else teachers who butthurt will make police report on students who asked too many questions instead of answering the questions. |
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May 12 2020, 03:16 PM
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Now also got such mentality.
It's called asalkan oghe kito |
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May 12 2020, 03:20 PM
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rmb i form 5 mostly remembered jwwbitch
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May 12 2020, 03:26 PM
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magaman will come in and said salah cibai CCP and cibai MCO
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May 12 2020, 04:00 PM
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May 12 2020, 04:25 PM
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Why everybody thought the killing of JWW Birch is due to slavery.
He was trying to modernise the taxation of Perak causing some pembesar including loyal followers of the Sultan to loose their rights to collect tax. The British romanticised it as he was trying to free slaves while the Malays romanticised the whole incident as some sort of Malay rising to the rule of British. The root cause were money and taxation. It is the same with a lot of other rebellions such as Tok Janggut or Mat Kilau. All of them were not fighting for independence. They were all fighting for $$$ including the British. |
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May 12 2020, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ May 12 2020, 04:25 PM) Why everybody thought the killing of JWW Birch is due to slavery. Because these people think that whatever the white people say must be true as they only bring democracy, freedom and civilization...He was trying to modernise the taxation of Perak causing some pembesar including loyal followers of the Sultan to loose their rights to collect tax. The British romanticised it as he was trying to free slaves while the Malays romanticised the whole incident as some sort of Malay rising to the rule of British. The root cause were money and taxation. It is the same with a lot of other rebellions such as Tok Janggut or Mat Kilau. All of them were not fighting for independence. They were all fighting for $$$ including the British. This post has been edited by akutaksempurna: May 12 2020, 06:41 PM |
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May 12 2020, 05:42 PM
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But he is still penjajah
They brought many outsiders last time |
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May 12 2020, 06:49 PM
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Those were the good times
U no like someone? Just kill them with a spear! |
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May 12 2020, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:02 PM) we study sejarah in school always paint Birch as the evil englishman. Wong Fei Hung vs White Lotus Societyreast in peace the hero we need. ![]() Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3] Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death. TL;DR: JWW Birch try to abolish songlaps, orang kite cronyism and slavery but kena bunuh while mandi. ![]() https://www.britannica.com/event/Perak-War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._W._Birch |
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May 12 2020, 06:50 PM
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Came to colonize and plunder, how is that good?
Owaitvhes white This post has been edited by olman: May 12 2020, 06:52 PM |
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May 12 2020, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(Ned_Fromthenorth @ May 12 2020, 12:02 PM) we study sejarah in school always paint Birch as the evil englishman. i know... sejarah teacher told me reast in peace the hero we need. ![]() Birch was killed on 2 November 1875 by followers of a local Malay chief, Dato Maharajalela, including Sepuntum, who speared him to death while he was in the bath-house of his boat, SS Dragon, moored on the Perak river-bank below the Maharajela's house, in Pasir Salak, near today's Teluk Intan (Teluk Anson).[3] Richard Olaf Winstedt in his "A History of Malaya" on page 226 published in the Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic Society, reprinted in 1986, wrote that a Malay deputation entreated with Governor-General Andrew Clarke in Singapore "to prevent the Resident from interfering with religion and custom, from acting without consulting Sultan and chiefs, and from depriving them of their property, namely fugitive slaves and feudal dues." Clarke had already observed on 25 March 1875 that, "I am very much annoyed with Birch and the heads-over-heels way in which he does things; he and I will come to sorrow yet, if he does not mind." On 21 July 1875 Raja Abdullah, in despair, called a meeting of chiefs where after a talk of poisoning Birch accepted the Maharajalela's offer to stab Birch to death. TL;DR: JWW Birch try to abolish songlaps, orang kite cronyism and slavery but kena bunuh while mandi. ![]() https://www.britannica.com/event/Perak-War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._W._Birch after she ajar sejarah according to text.. she closed the book and comment about hid opinion but this version will not come out in exam she said... we alll laugh |
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May 12 2020, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ May 12 2020, 04:25 PM) The root cause were money and taxation. It is the same with a lot of other rebellions such as Tok Janggut or Mat Kilau. All of them were not fighting for independence. The concept of independance of self governance does not exist yet that time. Even the war of American independance originates from unfair taxation.They were all fighting for $$$ including the British. |
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