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post Nov 15 2022, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(frankliew @ Nov 15 2022, 08:51 AM)
I suggest apply rhb multi currency card better. Secure and no limit storage. Anything happen jz go back to rhb settle. Some more rate is better . Only con is Rm20 annual fee.
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Are you sure the rates better 🤦‍♀️ Bank FX spread is Min 2% btw
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post Nov 24 2022, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Nov 24 2022, 12:01 PM)
If I remember correctly about 2.5% or thereabout
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Yes at least 2.5% onwards depending on each banks FX policies
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post Dec 26 2022, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(purplefellow @ Dec 26 2022, 03:12 PM)
I'm planning on getting a Wise card for online purchases since they have the Virtual Credit Card feature. Was wondering if there are any fees for topping up the card and also transferring the unused MYR back into your bank account?
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For your purpose better off getting BigPay as you got Duitnow feature

Wise is only good for overseas transaction
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post Jan 4 2023, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(MystiqueLife @ Jan 4 2023, 12:26 PM)
I think Wise charge RM 1.06 for any transaction to local bank, that's what he meant maybe.

I was charged too.
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Yes as it because they are wire transfer hence charges unlike local domiciled banks either using Rentas or FPX hence no charges

QUOTE(gooroojee @ Jan 4 2023, 02:20 PM)
RM1,200 transferred back to my bank for a deal that didn't go through...

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Not worth paying 0.1% for something which should be free locally 🤦‍♀️

Wise is smart by breaking down the charges which caters mostly to StrawGen 👏

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post Jan 5 2023, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Jan 5 2023, 08:25 PM)
Actually can try at any ATM and see the charges to be imposed on screen, without having to actually withdraw... I don't have RM funds left in my Wise card, so I can't check for now.

I'm also curious if the banks will charge Visa network withdrawal fees, since the card isn't on MEPS. Even on MEPS the bank would charge RM1 unless it's their own bank card.
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If local bank not exceeding rm1k no fee after that 1.75% fee hence it is actually Visa fees being subsidised by Wise

But if other currencies not in wallet hence conversion fee kicks in


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post Jan 6 2023, 04:41 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Jan 5 2023, 09:06 PM)
When I withdrew overseas in the foreign country's ATM, e.g. withdrawing VND from my Wise VND account, at a Vietnam bank's ATM, Wise didn't charge any fees, but the bank itself charged a fee for using their ATM, which if I recall was quite high.
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Wise doesn’t any charge any fee if it is local currencies in your wallet

Conversion fees only kicks in when you don’t have any currencies available that you want to withdraw 🤦‍♀️

For ATM best if you check the bank itself before withdrawing it as they should prompt on withdrawal before you are able to withdraw it
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post Jan 8 2023, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 8 2023, 06:38 PM)
Guys, just tested contactless at 7-11 in IPC. It works!

When I tried it like over a year ago somewhere else, it didn't work.

I am wondering is it because of balance in card? Last time I have less than RM100. Today I have over RM250. Please test with a higher balance.

I am going to some other shops later to try.

Update:
Tried 2 food shop, failed Wave. PIN ok.

What i can observe:
1. Failed contactless shops use those Android full touch screen payment terminal. One is a White color one...i think it' the older SunMi model..last time i was involved in some projects using this. Another one looks strangely like an Android phone slapped onto an add on but i can't be sure, basically also full touch screen device.

2. The one at 7-11 (which works with contactless) was those old school type keypad with small lcd screen display terminal.

Next time when you try, take note of the payment terminals and share here.
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711 ones are supplied by HLB hence it should work fine

Iinm the last time I use it as months backs in McDonald’s is the black ones by Maybank

Probably is the gateway setting on their terminal itself which causes this issue or only the bank supplied machines are configured to accept it

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post Jan 9 2023, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 9 2023, 06:21 AM)
Yes, this probably. I am going to load in some SGD and try it in Singapore coming CNY.
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Beware of the orange machine used by 99speedmart sometimes work sometimes don’t

Not sure those are bank issued or supplied by vendors
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post Jan 11 2023, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 10 2023, 08:57 PM)
Tried 3 more places today...none of them.works.

Seems like only 7-11 can use WISE contactless.

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So far my experience only those machines issued by HLB and MBB works fine

711, FamilyMart and McDonald’s working fine others will be touch n go 🤦‍♀️ Sometimes work sometimes not
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post Jan 11 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 11 2023, 03:44 PM)
Just now went to a Pharmacy...I think it use HLB machine...since reciept.came out got HLB logo. Won't work either.
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White or Silver machine?

If that the case must the machine is not being enabled for foreign issued payWave card transactions 🤦‍♀️

Seems like it is the local banks are the culprits not enabling it
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post Jan 11 2023, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 11 2023, 05:52 PM)
I remember it's White machine.
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If it the white machine it will be the same ones as 711 using hence can rule out not machine issue but the local banks for not enabling foreign issued card payWave transactions 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 11 2023, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 11 2023, 06:01 PM)
Means the bank, enable on some devices and disable on some devices??? doh.gif
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Suspect so because the big multi outlets stores like FamilyMart, 711 and McDonald’s no issue on payWave

Probably local banks so called Fraud Protection guise policies in place 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 11 2023, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Jan 11 2023, 08:14 PM)
I checked my wise balance in ATM , apparently I should have MYR but on the ATM it seems to be showing GBP amount and Maybank ATM warns that charges apply for non-maybank card cash withdrawal.

So the no fees on wise typically has fees as well
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Try other banks ATM as I believe Maybank trying to rip you off by recognising it as a UK bank card instead 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 12 2023, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 12 2023, 01:15 PM)
Oh, I see. Does this means I can say, receive SGD 50k from my Singapore CIMB bank? And then send from the JP Morgan the SGD 50k and convert it to RM to send to my local Maybank? Can I do it the other way from JP Morgan to the Singapore Bank as well?
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Can’t do anything Wise Malaysia uses JP Morgan Malaysia branch as its intermediary account so any transaction from Wise to other account will have to go through it

QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 12 2023, 01:17 PM)
if money in wise account (any currency) transfer to local malaysia bank account got any charges other than the currency conversation fee?
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Some banks might receipant fee so beware other receipant side

QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 12 2023, 02:49 PM)
understand, will bank notify if there is large amount inbound to local bank? whats the limit again before bank trigger
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As long as it is legit no banks will bother to notify 🤦‍♀️

Only suspicious sources will trigger the transaction to be halted and pending for notification then and there is no limit for trigger but the source of the money itself

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post Jan 13 2023, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(jaslina2 @ Jan 13 2023, 09:33 AM)
if transfer from own wise account to own local bank account will definitely not trigger? i remember there is like 10k then bank will call you
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It is bank dependent policies as every banks has different AMLA policies and procedures

As long as your source of funds is legit and documented why worry so much 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 13 2023, 01:11 PM)
do you have the list of bank recipient fee?
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You need to check with your receipant bank as every Bank charges differently

QUOTE(jonoave @ Jan 13 2023, 01:47 PM)
No need for your aunt to trouble. Transfer of Euro within EU is free. 

You sign up for a Wise account, then open a WISE Euro account. Give the details of you Wise Euro account to your aunt, mainly the IBAN number. Then you'll receive the full amount of Euro in your Wise Euro account.  After that, you can transfer the money from your Wise Euro account to a local Malaysian bank, with the conversion rate and fees charged by Wise (which is typically cheaper than banks). The app will clearly show much fees and conversion rate, and the amount of MYR you will receive - there is no additional charges imposed by banks.
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The problems is not Euro but RM wallet can hold of up to 20k

And if do multiple withdrawal troublesome and withdrawal charges apply 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 13 2023, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 13 2023, 06:57 PM)
I tried the ATM today:

CIMB (or Ambank...can't remember....same color!) - I check Balance and get a big fat zero for Balance and Withdrawal limit.

Maybank - Balance RM 1,5xx . Cannot understand. My RM only got RM 1xx..add SGD also less than RM600. USD , GBP, Euro very little, not worth mention. Only got lots of Yen inside.

How they get this RM 1,5xx figure? Also Wise app shows an RM 0 transaction each time I check.
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I told you already before different local banks recognised it differently 🤦‍♀️

Maybank will convert whatever when using their ATMs so they can rake in more FX spread fees
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post Jan 17 2023, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 17 2023, 12:36 PM)
even if source of fund is legit, there are definitely threshold to hit before anything delay or frozen happen. this is best to avoid before it happen. sometimes a frozen account is not recover forever. fund will stuck there, who knows goes to whos pocket.
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No such thing as the threshold when delay or frozen happens 🤦‍♀️ The money is not stuck or missing but it is in BNM clearing account

The only time it will happens if you when use illegitimate sources as funding sources

If you so scared suggest you pay more for proper for wire transfer via banks or split into smaller amounts
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post Jan 17 2023, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(il0ve51 @ Jan 17 2023, 04:32 PM)
the smaller amount is how many? im asking if anyone know the threshold of the smaller amount. 20k? 25k? 40k? or 50k?
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Like I said no such thing as threshold because AMLA policies implementation it is different from bank to bank 🤦‍♀️

If you so scared go to the bank branch and ask them for guarantee for transfer instead 🤦‍♀️

Every transfer whether you like it or not will go through BNM so the report is there and you should instead worry about the documentations of the source of funds

It seems like you worried as it is looks not legit the source of funds

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QUOTE(JungWoo @ Jan 19 2023, 03:50 PM)
guys im traveling abroad and looking for best card to spend oversea, like hotel, dinning, shopping etc.
currently the choices are Wise, Big Pay, T&G Visa. Which one is your choice and why?
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Wise and BigPay gives you better value while TNG Visa be prepared to pay 2% spread 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 19 2023, 04:20 PM)
SCB Jumpstart debit card is the best, FX rate much better than even bigpay. https://www.sc.com/my/saadiq/deposits/jumpstart/

Don't use wise, stupid card, cannot use wave all the time.  bangwall.gif
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SCB is not as cheap as what you think as you’re paying SCB FX rate not market live rates hence 2% incurred 🤦‍♀️

It is only good for overseas ATM Cash withdrawal via MasterCard/Cirrus with no bank charges
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post Jan 20 2023, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jan 19 2023, 07:07 PM)
Err. It is 0%. I'm using it. U can calculate the exchange rate

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Don’t look at MasterCard rate as it is already priced in at least 1% from it

Compared with live exchange rate instead 🤦‍♀️

Anyway MasterCard or Visa will never use live rates but the rates the day before as a reference otherwise they would have make any money at all

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